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Steamtank
from Melancholia Isle (Poland) on 2002-05-21 08:08 [#00227771]
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Anybody likes his books? I find "Valis" thing the best- it is totally crazy one. and what about "blade runner"? film was ok but the book has blown my mind. somewhere I read that dick's books will be XXI century classics- I find it quiete possible- his books are mainly about paranoias and fake worlds so it fits great to our reality:O(
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-05-21 08:12 [#00227776]
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you can phil my dick lil buddy, hurhrurhurhurhur
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Steamtank
from Melancholia Isle (Poland) on 2002-05-21 08:16 [#00227783]
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thank you for your proposal little ponylicka. hrhrhrururur
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-21 08:24 [#00227793]
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See if you get hold of a biography about him...you can really get a handle on some of the concepts in his books when you know a bit more about his life, I find....
During the latter part of his life he reported being visited by God/Aliens and that informed a lot of his writing...that and immense amount of amphetamines...
Very interesting guy...great books as well, and yeah, he is being embraced into the literary world; they are notorisouly snobby when it comes to Sci-Fi (only Dick and W Gibson seem to be taken seriously...understandable given the state of most SciFi, I guess but it's not all mindless pap...wish Dick had lived longer but a lot of artists aren't recognised during their lifetime unfortunately..)
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Steamtank
from Melancholia Isle (Poland) on 2002-05-21 08:29 [#00227799]
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I've known about amph addiction but thx for the info about his alien(?) visions.very interesting guy indeed. i find arfonsky's pi strongly inspired by dick
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-05-21 08:33 [#00227807]
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Actually, his latest books have been heavily influenced by his "god" experience... Proves that taking too much acid leads you to waste
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-21 08:37 [#00227810]
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yeah, agreed...Pi's got that same paranoic feeling to it that's in a lot of PKD's stuff...Dicks on of those authors who's drug-use is oh-so-apparent in their work; Amphetamine psychosis is characterised by intense paranoia...
(...there's quite a bit about him in the Making of Bladerunner book so see if you can pick that up...it's called Future Noir: The Making of Bladerunner by Paul M Sammon...)
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Steamtank
from Melancholia Isle (Poland) on 2002-05-21 08:38 [#00227811]
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thinking of valis trilogy? i find it great one, not something written by a acid-wasted mind:O)
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Steamtank
from Melancholia Isle (Poland) on 2002-05-21 08:40 [#00227813]
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difficult to find in my shittie country
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-05-21 08:40 [#00227814]
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You should read "The Galactic Pot Healer" for some disturbing acid damage writing
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-21 08:47 [#00227829]
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yeah..Valis was his last set of books and his drug use has decreased dramatically by then...but yeah during the early 70's he was in a bad way personally...too much speed, Acid etc. did mess him up...but he managed to get himself out of it in the end...
I wonder if we'll ever see the 8000 page, 1 million word EXEGENIS secret work of PKDs where he tries to rationalise the visions he'd seen...I reckon that would make good reading...
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-05-21 08:52 [#00227834]
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yeah, but he might have had a good reason for not publishing it while he was still alive, I dunno...
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-21 09:29 [#00227895]
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I think it was just a personal work for himself really...
Not meant for publication...but it will be published sooner or later, I guess, now that he's dead...
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-05-21 09:31 [#00227900]
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uhm, I have some reservations about that, but I guess it can't be avoided...
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-21 12:35 [#00228150]
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Agreed...but a lot of writers work is published posthumously...sometimes against their written wishes...
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Steamtank
from Melancholia Isle (Poland) on 2002-05-21 14:14 [#00228301]
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Franz Kafka's stuff for example. 8000 pages exegesis, he has written that really?
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-21 15:45 [#00228480]
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Apparently...I only repeating what I've read of it but yeah, 8000 pages, 1 million words it says....
Just done a google...and came up with this...
""The Exegesis of Philip K. Dick has too long remained a terra incognita. As a practical matter, that is hardly surprising: The unpublished form of the Exegesis consists of over eight thousand pages without a unifying numbered sequence, most of which were handwritten in a scrawling script, and all of which were arbitrarily sorted into ninety-one manila folders following Dick's death in 1982. Thus, while the 1980's saw the posthumous first publication of numerous Dick mainstream novels of the 1950s, the Exegesis remained out of view as an archival nightmare. But one with a curious legendary status..."
Lawrence Sutin, 1991, from the preface of 'In Pursuit Of VALIS: Selections from the Exegesis'. "
see http://www.ad-i.com/eoe/exegesis.asp ... for more info/exceprts etc...
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-05-21 15:51 [#00228486]
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yeah, that'll be hell to edit...
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-21 15:56 [#00228493]
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Apparently, these guys I linked above are trying to organise getting it all typed in...if they ever get their hands on a copy of the manuscript...
There seem to some problems with the Dick estate but they look like an ambitious bunch and i reckon, with a writer of Dicks standing, it will eventually be published...maybe via these guys (I hope so as it would surely of been in PKD's wishes that a work of this magnitude would reach as many people as possible and the net seems the ideal way of achieveing this....it may have been a personal project but I find it difficult to believe that Dick imagined it would never see the light of day...)..
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-05-21 15:59 [#00228495]
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let's just hope it all makes some sense. Much of his prose relied more on the feeling of something alien residing below the surface than on good explanation. BTW, I dunno when I will have the time to read 8000 pages...
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-21 16:08 [#00228505]
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I reckon that 8000 pages would condense down quite well...it's hand written so lets say 50%, so it's ONLY 4000 pages afterall....;)...
Personally, I'm looking forward to the movie...;)...
oh yeah, catch PhilipKDick.COM for more info on PKD....
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