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offline Steamtank from Melancholia Isle (Poland) on 2002-05-21 08:08 [#00227771]
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Anybody likes his books? I find "Valis" thing the best- it
is totally crazy one. and what about "blade runner"? film
was ok but the book has blown my mind. somewhere I read that
dick's books will be XXI century classics- I find it quiete
possible- his books are mainly about paranoias and fake
worlds so it fits great to our reality:O(


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-05-21 08:12 [#00227776]
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you can phil my dick lil buddy, hurhrurhurhurhur


 

offline Steamtank from Melancholia Isle (Poland) on 2002-05-21 08:16 [#00227783]
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thank you for your proposal little ponylicka. hrhrhrururur


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-21 08:24 [#00227793]
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See if you get hold of a biography about him...you can
really get a handle on some of the concepts in his books
when you know a bit more about his life, I find....

During the latter part of his life he reported being visited
by God/Aliens and that informed a lot of his writing...that
and immense amount of amphetamines...

Very interesting guy...great books as well, and yeah, he is
being embraced into the literary world; they are notorisouly
snobby when it comes to Sci-Fi (only Dick and W Gibson seem
to be taken seriously...understandable given the state of
most SciFi, I guess but it's not all mindless pap...wish
Dick had lived longer but a lot of artists aren't recognised
during their lifetime unfortunately..)


 

offline Steamtank from Melancholia Isle (Poland) on 2002-05-21 08:29 [#00227799]
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I've known about amph addiction but thx for the info about
his alien(?) visions.very interesting guy indeed. i find
arfonsky's pi strongly inspired by dick



 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-05-21 08:33 [#00227807]
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Actually, his latest books have been heavily influenced by
his "god" experience... Proves that taking too much acid
leads you to waste


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-21 08:37 [#00227810]
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yeah, agreed...Pi's got that same paranoic feeling to it
that's in a lot of PKD's stuff...Dicks on of those authors
who's drug-use is oh-so-apparent in their work; Amphetamine
psychosis is characterised by intense paranoia...

(...there's quite a bit about him in the Making of
Bladerunner book so see if you can pick that up...it's
called Future Noir: The Making of Bladerunner by Paul M
Sammon...)


 

offline Steamtank from Melancholia Isle (Poland) on 2002-05-21 08:38 [#00227811]
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thinking of valis trilogy? i find it great one, not
something written by a acid-wasted mind:O)


 

offline Steamtank from Melancholia Isle (Poland) on 2002-05-21 08:40 [#00227813]
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difficult to find in my shittie country



 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-05-21 08:40 [#00227814]
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You should read "The Galactic Pot Healer" for some
disturbing acid damage writing


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-21 08:47 [#00227829]
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yeah..Valis was his last set of books and his drug use has
decreased dramatically by then...but yeah during the early
70's he was in a bad way personally...too much speed, Acid
etc. did mess him up...but he managed to get himself out of
it in the end...

I wonder if we'll ever see the 8000 page, 1 million word
EXEGENIS secret work of PKDs where he tries to rationalise
the visions he'd seen...I reckon that would make good
reading...


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-05-21 08:52 [#00227834]
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yeah, but he might have had a good reason for not publishing
it while he was still alive, I dunno...


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-21 09:29 [#00227895]
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I think it was just a personal work for himself really...

Not meant for publication...but it will be published sooner
or later, I guess, now that he's dead...


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-05-21 09:31 [#00227900]
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uhm, I have some reservations about that, but I guess it
can't be avoided...


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-21 12:35 [#00228150]
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Agreed...but a lot of writers work is published
posthumously...sometimes against their written wishes...


 

offline Steamtank from Melancholia Isle (Poland) on 2002-05-21 14:14 [#00228301]
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Franz Kafka's stuff for example. 8000 pages exegesis, he has
written that really?


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-21 15:45 [#00228480]
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Apparently...I only repeating what I've read of it but yeah,
8000 pages, 1 million words it says....

Just done a google...and came up with this...

""The Exegesis of Philip K. Dick has too long remained a
terra incognita. As a practical matter, that is hardly
surprising: The unpublished form of the Exegesis consists of
over eight thousand pages without a unifying numbered
sequence, most of which were handwritten in a scrawling
script, and all of which were arbitrarily sorted into
ninety-one manila folders following Dick's death in 1982.
Thus, while the 1980's saw the posthumous first publication
of numerous Dick mainstream novels of the 1950s, the
Exegesis remained out of view as an archival nightmare. But
one with a curious legendary status..."

Lawrence Sutin, 1991, from the preface of
'In Pursuit Of VALIS: Selections from the Exegesis'. "


see http://www.ad-i.com/eoe/exegesis.asp ... for more info/exceprts etc...



 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-05-21 15:51 [#00228486]
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yeah, that'll be hell to edit...


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-21 15:56 [#00228493]
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Apparently, these guys I linked above are trying to organise
getting it all typed in...if they ever get their hands on a
copy of the manuscript...

There seem to some problems with the Dick estate but they
look like an ambitious bunch and i reckon, with a writer of
Dicks standing, it will eventually be published...maybe via
these guys (I hope so as it would surely of been in PKD's
wishes that a work of this magnitude would reach as many
people as possible and the net seems the ideal way of
achieveing this....it may have been a personal project but I
find it difficult to believe that Dick imagined it would
never see the light of day...)..


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-05-21 15:59 [#00228495]
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let's just hope it all makes some sense. Much of his prose
relied more on the feeling of something alien residing below
the surface than on good explanation. BTW, I dunno when I
will have the time to read 8000 pages...


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-21 16:08 [#00228505]
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I reckon that 8000 pages would condense down quite
well...it's hand written so lets say 50%, so it's ONLY 4000
pages afterall....;)...

Personally, I'm looking forward to the movie...;)...

oh yeah, catch PhilipKDick.COM for more info on PKD....


 


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