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offline john is fast from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-18 08:32 [#00224509]
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i think the music word sometimes cares a bit too much about
original sound. a perfectly good artist would be
overlooked if what he made wasnt original in spite of the
fact that he made a wonderful song/album. i find this
funny/destrubing. i mean i too think originality is
important but maybe we shouldnt focus on it as the most
important thing as i fear maybe we do.


 

offline john is fast from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-18 08:33 [#00224510]
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"i think the music word" i meant "music worLd"


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2002-05-18 08:35 [#00224512]
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I dissagree. About what the music world looks for I mean. I
agree that people will too often overlook artists with
sounds that may be darivative, but an artist with a truly
original sound will have a shit hard time getting signed.


 

offline john is fast from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-18 08:38 [#00224513]
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true but often we think "these guys sound too much like
autechre" or some crap like that. which is silly if the
music is good then its good.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2002-05-18 08:44 [#00224515]
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The only artist that really bothers me when it comes to
stuff like that is cylob.


 

offline john is fast from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-18 08:51 [#00224519]
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but cylob only sounds like cylob in my oppinion.
people dont like him because his music is generally simpler
but i think he intends it to be more childlike.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2002-05-18 08:53 [#00224521]
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I think with most of his releases he was struggling to make
music that sounds like that stuff that his fellow rephex
artists were writing.


 

offline john is fast from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-18 09:00 [#00224525]
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are you not aware there is humor in all his music? even the
serious stuff? its childlike he intends this. music taken
less seriously is a statement.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2002-05-18 09:03 [#00224526]
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I might find it funny if it was actually witty. Or had any
teeth to it.

As far as artists who takes the piss are concerned, I prefer
Cex.


 

offline Ubik from United States on 2002-05-18 09:09 [#00224528]
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are you implying that Aphex and Squarepusher and Autechre
are being "too" original just because they feel they have
too be different? you wish that they would make more
mainstream stuff... its a challenge to do that also, and
make it work, but...
i don't really agree with that sentiment.. these artists are
coming close to putting out what they are interested in,
instead of trying to fit "genres"...

thou I think it would be nice if Squarepusher would make
more tracks that are more like traditional "songs", he is so
overflowing with stuff... that other humans could connect
with more, but he obviously does not want too... would you
rather he was forced by market pressures to release only
more mainstream stuff??


 

offline OK on 2002-05-18 09:11 [#00224529]
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i hate autechre so i'm gonna hate anything that tries to
imaitate autechre...

unless it's good unlike autechre

and often whe people dismiss some band becuase it's
'unoriginal' it's becaue it's uninspired not because it
sounds similar to something.


 

offline john is fast from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-18 09:38 [#00224535]
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ubik: no i dont want things to sound more mainstream im just
saying people dismiss artists for not being completely
orginal often times. more so than say in the painting side
of art where painters arent weighed at how original they are
but rather how well they paint and nothing more.

you cant say autechre isnt good, its just not your taste.
anyone who doesnt see that there is brilliance hidden in
there(whether you enjoy it or not) is simply artistically
blind.


 

offline john is fast from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-18 09:39 [#00224536]
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there is no such thing as too original, and originality is
good, my point is that its not everything.


 

offline Duble0Syx from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2002-05-18 09:54 [#00224540]
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I agree with you on that...
I also think people like AFX or Squarepusher aren't too
Original, they just make music that isn't for the
mainstream. If someone thinks it's intentionally too
original then perhaps the should be listening to bands like
Disturbed or Limp bizkit...


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2002-05-18 09:58 [#00224542]
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Aphex Twin hasn't really ever made anything original IMO. He
is really good at taking the far far far left and making it
accessible tho.


 

offline windowlicker from Nashvegas on 2002-05-18 10:37 [#00224551]
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ween


 

offline Laserbeak from Netherlands, The on 2002-05-18 11:36 [#00224579]
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Isn't making original music nearly impossible now?
Everything is done before. The musical ingredients aren't
original, the music itself is. And it's all relatively
original... So the question is: Is it original enough for
me? There is no standard "this is original and this is not"


 

offline Duble0Syx from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2002-05-18 11:52 [#00224606]
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I'm sure I listen to some unoriginal music but I don't care.
Original or not, if I like it I'm going to listen to it...


 


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