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offline joey from montréal (Canada) on 2002-05-12 01:12 [#00215612]
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... and get along again, guys. Stop all the nonsense, it
is not very productive. Be peaceful with each other please,
it makes for a much more pleasant messageboard. stop
hurtling insults at one another. Be kind, I ask you with
the utmost humility and hope for peace.


 

offline Inverted Whale from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-05-12 01:15 [#00215616]
Points: 3301 Status: Lurker



I'd like to, but it's tough to shut up when there's so much
ignorance being tossed around.


 

offline teapot from Paddington (Australia) on 2002-05-12 01:16 [#00215619]
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♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
♥ ♥ ♥ peace brothers


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-05-12 01:17 [#00215623]
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...creativity needs friction....


 

offline joey from montréal (Canada) on 2002-05-12 01:17 [#00215624]
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what's the point in hurtling insults. it is not going to
solve anything, it's just going to create more tension than
already exists, and ... well you see what I mean. There is
no point in trying to convince each other that drugs are bad
or good or what the fuck ever. We are going to have
different opinions, and that's the way the world is. I'm
not trying to tell you guys what to do (well, actually I
am), but I tell it to you with the sole purpose of creating
a more peaceful and respectful environment.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-05-12 01:18 [#00215626]
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Call me clueless, but am I considered ignorant? I'm
anti-drugs, obviously, but have I offended anyone?


 

offline joey from montréal (Canada) on 2002-05-12 01:19 [#00215629]
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who cares? let's all put on alberto balsalm or Windowlicker
and relax... some with a joint in their mouth, others with a
glass of water. afterall, we are reasonable people.


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-05-12 01:22 [#00215635]
Points: 16280 Status: Lurker | Followup to Ophecks: #00215626



according to REFLEX you need to have lost 7 or 8 friends to
drugs in order to be classified as an expert on drugs... it
seems that people who do drugs can't stand to hear anyone
call drugs stupid, when all it is is an opinion... I fucking
don't care about your opinions that drugs are ok, so why do
you guys care about our opinions about how drugs are bad?


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-05-12 01:22 [#00215637]
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I'm of the same opinion... who cares? Do whatever you
fucking want!!!


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-05-12 01:23 [#00215638]
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you've not offended me, but i have to say that expressing
your anti-drug opinion without replying to the arguments of
those are "pro-choice" on drugs is a bit annoying. you
radiate an attitude of "i wont listen if you dont agree with
me"


 

offline joey from montréal (Canada) on 2002-05-12 01:24 [#00215639]
Points: 1220 Status: Lurker



oh come off it funk, I opened this thread to try to calm the
mb down a little. please don't come and get people worked
up some more. This thread is meant for all the nice and
peaceful things in life. please.


 

offline mylittlesister from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-12 01:24 [#00215640]
Points: 8472 Status: Regular



glass of water here :-) it tastes good!

yeah, lets just get along people... if sum1's being ignorant
then maybe its just lack of experience, so you just need to
show/tell them the other side of the story, or wotever.
Appeasement is the way here!


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-05-12 01:24 [#00215641]
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Why would I WANT to be an expert on drugs? I'm fine the way
I am, geez... I don't NEED to experience them to have an
opinion.


 

offline joey from montréal (Canada) on 2002-05-12 01:25 [#00215644]
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ah, it's pretty bleak. COME ON!!! I LOVE YOU ALL!!! Let's
all say it together.


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-05-12 01:25 [#00215645]
Points: 3489 Status: Lurker | Followup to The_Funkmaster: #00215635



it's not the opinion that drugs are bad that is making
people upset funk. if you would read you would see that
it's the innability to address the issues. everybody has an
opinion, but you are unwilling to discuss it, why say it?


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-05-12 01:26 [#00215647]
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sorry joe


 

offline Inverted Whale from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-05-12 01:27 [#00215650]
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joey, you'd be more effective if you brought back your
"bleeding head" pic.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-05-12 01:27 [#00215651]
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Sorry, it's just that I don't like getting too involved in
these arguments. I know what you're saying, I'm listening,
but I don't agree. But do what you want, it's totally
fine... I don't go overboard and put down drug users, do I?
I just say it sucks for ME... I'm anti drug, that's all.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-05-12 01:28 [#00215654]
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goddam funkmaster -- according to REFLEX bullshit -- REFLEX
was making the point that losing a friend or friends does
NOT make you an expert on drugs -- he was criticising chris
because chris was acting as if he knew all since he lost a
friend to drug abuse - don't misquote, it causes fake
issues.

(PS just because you don't want to hear our opinions, that
doesn't equate with us not wanting to hear your
opinions...that logic is not necessarily reversible)


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-05-12 01:29 [#00215658]
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btw ophecks, you didn't offend me at all, and i don't think
you offended anyone else, in case you were concerned ....
when is there going to be more jay worth music to download?
i only have one track, drum'n'bass...


 

offline joey from montréal (Canada) on 2002-05-12 01:30 [#00215659]
Points: 1220 Status: Lurker | Followup to Inverted Whale: #00215650



BLEEDING HEAD ALERT!!! geez, people hijacking my threads
with more insults. I guess I had to expect it...


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-05-12 01:32 [#00215665]
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no you don't, all good.


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-12 01:32 [#00215669]
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"There's a very interesting book by Lakoff and Johnson, that
famous thirties singing team, it's a book about metaphor,
it's called Metaphors We Live By. They give a very clear
example of the effect of metaphor. They say we use in our
culture the metaphor, argument is war. All of our language
about argument "she defeated him", "he attacked her
position", so on and so on, they are all arguments that
relate to fighting.

When we think about the process of arguing, we tend to then
reconstrue our possibilities in terms of that metaphor. What
Lakoff and Johnson say is suppose that somebody had said
argument is dance, suppose that was the dominant metaphor.
So instead of it being seen you have the process where one
person defeats another, it becomes a process where two
people together make something beautiful between them. We
could have that metaphor for argument, we don't."....

would be cool if we did tho...

(Read that today in a Brian Eno essay...kinda applicable in
way...)...



 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-05-12 01:35 [#00215676]
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Heh, I haven't made a new track in a long time, I just have
a bunch of incomplete little snippets of tracks. I think
I'll start fucking around with it again this week, I
mentioned it in some other thread. Maybe I'll come up with
something. I had writer's block and I give up easily. :-) My
music sucks anyway!


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2002-05-12 01:35 [#00215678]
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Sorry Joey!


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-05-12 01:40 [#00215696]
Points: 24578 Status: Lurker | Followup to Ophecks: #00215676



well ophecks, keep at it and you'll be surprised how quick
you get better! :)

JAND: if you read people like ANTON WiLSON and CHRiSTOPHER
hyatt and TIM LEARY...they are also interested in semantics
&Tc -- hyatt actually wrote a book on the subject that you
speak of --- have you heard of metaprogramming? its where
you reprogramme your brain -- interesting -- anton wilson
also wrote an entire book without using the word "i"... :)
youll notice how posh people say "one" instead of "i" -- one
digs that detachment ;L)


 

offline nine from Ottawa (Canada) on 2002-05-12 02:34 [#00215833]
Points: 7 Status: Lurker



Hee hee. "Hurtling".

"the time will come where you'll see we're all one... life
flows on within you and without you." -Harrison

Live and let live.

I used to battle these kinds of things on
alt.music.deep-purple.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-05-12 02:41 [#00215844]
Points: 24578 Status: Lurker



i think within you without is one of the best beatles songs
-- probably the 2nd best song on sgt pepper, behind day in
the life


 

offline nine from Ottawa (Canada) on 2002-05-12 03:08 [#00215877]
Points: 7 Status: Lurker



hey, glad to see another beatles fan. I guess there may be
lots, but I am, of course, a reasonable newbie.

I like a lot of the post-Rubber Soul stuff, especially
White, Let it Be, and Abbey.

dear prudence is one of my absolute favourites.


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-05-12 03:13 [#00215879]
Points: 3489 Status: Lurker | Followup to nine: #00215833



great lyics, those are.


 

offline joey from montréal (Canada) on 2002-05-12 03:13 [#00215880]
Points: 1220 Status: Lurker



nine is a newbie. that rhymes with Pubie. hee hee. a
pube.


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-05-12 03:17 [#00215882]
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always wanted to ask, but never got around to it... whatcha
cookin?


 

offline joey from montréal (Canada) on 2002-05-12 03:24 [#00215885]
Points: 1220 Status: Lurker



well, i just finished my internship where i was making
smoked salmon, blood sausage, salmon and beef tartare, and
other classic bistro stuff.

next weekend, i got a dinner coming up which I am hosting.

Here's the menu:

1. grilled mediterranean vegetables with parmigiano
reggiano
2. salmon tartare with taro matchsticks and nori, lemon
yogourt sauce.
3. saffron risotto with foie gras
4. cream of corn soup with "BLANCHE DE CHAMBLY" white beer, wild
rice corn and mushrooms garnish.
5. filet mignon with herb mashed potatoes, seasonal
vegetables, red wine sauce.
6. three quebec cheeses with apples and nuts.
7. mango ice cream with red wine poached fruit salad.

everything will be made by me, except for the bread for the
cheese. it will be fun. it's for my wife's family (about
25 or 30 people), and a few friends and family.


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-05-12 03:43 [#00215899]
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your making me so hungry!


 


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