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how many of you guys collect vinyl as opposed to cd? which vinyls do you have that you thought you would buy on cd as well? are you amazed at how cheap the vinyl at warp records is? thats the end of my boring bookworm post! |
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The most recent vinyl I bought was Confield and Geogaddi. The "Magic Window" side is very strange. NO GROOVES! |
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I just buy vinyl now as its cheaper and nicer to play. CDs are a convenient yet horrible format. Vinyl is beautiful. I've doubled up with DJ Shadow but that's pretty much it. I'm not a completist. |
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last vinyl i bought was girl/boy EP from e-bay. |
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I don't have working decks, I can't MP3 from vinyl easily. I find vinyl distorts in the heat too easily and listening to vinyl is a less passive experience (having to turn it over, move the needle to skip tracks etc) making it not appropriate background music for work. Vinyl covers also lack a spine making it harder to locate records than CDs. It's also a FACT (none of this subjective "audiophile" rubbish) that CDs are better audio quality. For these reasons I prefer CD. Still everyone's entitled to their opinion and I admit that for mixing etc. vinyl is the king and no doubt a lot of folks here like vinyl. |
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I can see that vinyl is not conducive to studying. When you have hours to spare just playing tunes its great. Turning it over etc makes the whole experience more alive. Sounds cheesy I know but that's why I love vinyl more. |
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I know what you mean, some of my friends are into vinyl and it is a lot more of "social" way to listen to music when you have mates over. You can take it in turn to mix etc. and it's good fun. I learnt to scratch on "Intergalactic" by beastie boys, but I'm crap on all other records... do you have to "learn" each record or does the same theory apply to them all? |
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I still can't mix. There's no rules as long as it sounds good. Its best to know your records really well and get a grip of the nuances to get a good mix. It all takes time and practice. Unfortunately I only find time to listen and not practice mixing. I hate the working life. |
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I can mix reasonably well (for an amateur) it's just I can't scratch very well. I know all the theroy (which types of sounds work well as scratches etc.), but I can only do it on Intergalactic :( I don't think I'd be confident enough to do a DJ set live, whereas I'd happily play about with re-birth in front of a crowd for hours (given the chance!). There are lots of "electronic" clubs in Bristol so when I move there (and get a midi controller) I might go round the clubs looking for a spot. Sorry, bit off topic I know... |
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turning over a record is a waste of energy! if i'm lying in a comatose state on my living room floor, the last thing i want to do is jump up every 20 minutes to change record sides! and how would KLF's chillout be smooth if i had to flip the wax halfway thru the track?? |
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Go for it man. Its the only way. |
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ceri, are you a rebirth master too? me and my old flatmate were lauded as being such in our town :) live sets and all that -- the old days when all i knew was reBirth --- ahhh |
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What is rebirth? |
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rebirth is the two 303s, a 909 and a 808 -- all virtual -- has the demo |
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the full cracked version of rebirth v2.01 is easy to obtain - i have it, but don't use it any more -- i mean too -- it's good for acid=techno and the like - and with modpacker, you can import your own sounds into it and stuff -- do you make music, jonesy? |
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I have found scratching to be like any skill it takes years of experimentation and practice. I have been checking the techniques of the masters lately and they just keep blowing my mind. They are doing so many subtle things that I couldn't hear a year or so ago. I sometimes come up with amazing scratches bu tfind it hard to be consistent. I think you will just have to keep trying ceri. Watch a video if you can. |
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I want to make sampled based music when I get enough money for a sampler. DJ Shadow's way of making music intrigues me; 100% samples. I wouldn't want to clone him or anyone but that hip hop way of music production is what I'd like to go for. Getting all your sounds using a computer doesn't appeal to me so much. i'm still really ignorant about equipment and music production and have to do some research. Its all a matter of money at the moment however. |
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track 1 off Endtroducing is my favourite "scratch track" |
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i could never make sample-based music -- it just wouldn't feel right -- it would be like writing a novel by patching together other novels -- even if the finished work was great, well in the end you are just an editor -- i like to insert samples now and then (never looped samples like beats or music), but that's all |
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oh and I recently fell in love with vinyl. After buying about 20 tapes I moved to CD in '93 and now I'm buying a lot more stuff on vinyl, the covers are way nicer, even thought they're the same pictures as the CDs, and of course, coloured vinyl is great. A mate of mine lent me a burgundy Supergrass 7" and a clear vinyl Cast 7". The Cast one cost him 99p and it's limited to 5000, maybe I should sneakily put it on ebay (hehehe) Nah, that would be a bit harsh. |
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To be honest shadows scratching isn't anything special. There is so much more technical stuff out there, the kind of stuff that sends shivers up you spine. Afterall he is more of a producer. |
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Shadow's scratching is sparing but that's the beauty. You can't overdo it. Some scratching just becomes like guitar solo wankery a la Steve Vai/ Joe Satriani. |
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I agree a lot of scrtaching is mind numbingly boring after a while, but like any musical genre it will have its afficionados and purists who will always be delveing deeper and expanding the style. In the context of his music it is fine but he isn't exactly pushing the boat out. My veiw is that artist/producers should be constantly trying to experiment. I think his scratching will sound very lame in a couple of years just like stuff that is about ten years old does now. |
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But scratching is not central to what he does. He scratches in the right places and keep sit minimal. As you say he's more of an artist/producer and the tracks themselves are what he's about. Check monosylabik to see some innovation. Who do you like then? Q-Bert? I don't really know many. I still can't work out how to scratch. It really takes some doing to use the fader to achieve that sound. |
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I'm pretty good "live" but I just can't be arsed with writing songs on it bar by bar, I just play. I have 2.01 too, but I can't get any mods (apart from those that come with it) to work. |
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check this site http://www.djbattle.net/ then watch the videos or check the audio. |
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i wonder if mini cd's will ever catch on |
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the world DMC championship videos are the best ..the mad scratching. i thinck they have heats 4 this all round the summer in the UK. |
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i'm collecting vinyl. i recently started though, so i haven't got more than maybe 40-50 vinyls at the moment. i'd really like to have some of them on cd as well, as cd's are easier to take with you on travel. right now i'm settling with taping my fave vinyls on minidisc. i'm not a dj or anything, i just really love the vinyl format, the vinyl sound, and the bigger artwork :) to me, the vinylversion is always the "ultimate" version of a record. the fact that warp are pricing some of the vinyleditions of cds a bit cheaper than the other formats are brilliant as well. it's a way of promoting the format, and giving us vinylheadz a quid or two extra in our pockets. |
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"giving us vinylheadz a quid or two extra in our pockets. " For you to "waste" of £600+ decks ;) |
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exactly :) |
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Records will always kick arse. CD's true are low noise and true hi-fi that can only get better...but there is just something about the sound of the scratches and pops of a record that make it sound so awesome. I bought 2 remixes by AFX on vinyl, i like it better than the CD, i'm gonna pick up the untitled squarepusher single soon. |
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i think it's really cool that some releases are limited to vinyl only, like the untitled squarepusher single for instance. well, cool for people with turntables :) |
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I know that software to do it has been around for years, but how long till a hi-fi manufacturer adds a "warmth" slider to the CD player so you can add the amount of "crackle and pop" and general vinyl-style distortion? I agree that there is something nice about record crackle and it's a shame there isn't more of it on CDs. |
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i love coloured vinyls. did BoC not put something with an eye on it , on blue vinyl or something? |
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convert your mp3s to wav, load them into fruityloops, apply the VINYL plug-in you downloaded from my site, and create your own recordesque music -- then export the wave, reconvert to mp3 in Cool Edit Pro, and VOILA! |
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I know, I can do it in software, but It'd be cool to have it as a piece of hardware on a hi-fi. It could have hundreds of scratch and pop sound effects built in and randomly apply them. |
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Rega already make a CD player that's meant to appeal to vinyl addicts as it has a tonal balance similar to a turntable. Obviously it generate realtime crackle or anything! I think it's called the Rega Planet... they've been making turntables and arms for years and they're considered to be a decent British hifi manufacturer Me, I like CD AND vinyl... although vinyl is DAMN inconvenient |
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meant to say DOESN'T generate!!! |
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i dont really give a fuck about vinyl to be honest -- i just like the music - i dont understand these retentive types who insist vinyl is the only true musical format |
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After i bought a little studio with a sampler, drummachine, etc. I quite buying as much vinyl(new vinyl). and i started making beats instead of spinning. I still buy vinyl from thrift stores like old jazz, funk, 80's bands to sample. im too poor now to afford new vinyl or cd's. I have a few things on vinyl and CD mainly aphex twin and squarepusher. |
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my vinyl collection: girl/boy ep dead cities hey matthew 12" by karel fialka it ain't what you do its the way that you do it by funboythree always on my mind 7" by the pet shop boys |
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It's funny how "audiophiles" claim that it sounds closer to the original than CD. Bollocks! 4/5ths of all CD data could be stripped out with no noticable difference. Notice I didn't say discernable, I said noticeable- The human ear isn't physically accurate enough a device to pick up the minute frequency/volume changes supported by CD. |
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i say we take them out back and whip their ears with birchwood until they clog up with blood -- then we'll see if the rotten bastards can tell the difference. (rockfall???? come on you slut! i'm dependant upon you!) |
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I'm going to be up all night finishing my tourism in south wales project. No doubt I'll want a break around 3am. I think playing rockfall in the "altered state" my mind will be in at that time could be the way of solving the problem... |
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3am is always the best time to think laterally &tc -- proven fact and all that |
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Good thing I do lots of my remixes at around that time ;) |
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are you gonna remix one of my tracks? i think they are unremixable personally so it would be nice to be proved wrong |
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What program do you do them in? |
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fruityloops and Cool Edit Pro, 1.2a, you scurvy pigfucker! |
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