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offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2002-05-07 22:34 [#00209975]
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anyone has an opinion about 18?

i listened to it once (rapidly) and first impression -very
melancholic


 

offline USACID from Death Valley (Zambia) on 2002-05-07 22:36 [#00209979]
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is it out/???

when u say melancholic too, is it like really
depressing...or just really pathetic and doesn't deserve to
be bought from the store


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2002-05-07 22:42 [#00209991]
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i think that it doesnt match "play"
thou some tracks seem nice
but i just got 18 so i can't say if its worth buying it yet


 

offline Donna Simpson from morgantown (United States) on 2002-05-07 23:11 [#00210033]
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My friend almost choked Moby at a party because he was being
a little bitch...


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2002-05-07 23:15 [#00210043]
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choke a guy that seem's like Mahatma Gandhi?


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-05-07 23:16 [#00210045]
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moby can get stopped by obie :P


 

offline Donna Simpson from morgantown (United States) on 2002-05-07 23:16 [#00210047]
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he was asking for it...


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2002-05-07 23:52 [#00210081]
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this album sucks


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-05-08 00:21 [#00210099]
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you betcha it does!


 

offline Laserbeak from Netherlands, The on 2002-05-08 00:23 [#00210100]
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Can't expect too much from him...


 

offline GIR from Easton on 2002-05-08 00:34 [#00210110]
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i like moby.


 

offline GIR from Easton on 2002-05-08 00:34 [#00210111]
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seriously though,he needs to bring back his "everything is
wrong" ravish stuff.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-05-08 00:39 [#00210115]
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he needs to make another animal rights album.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2002-05-08 00:39 [#00210116]
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i'm curious what critic's are going to say about this work
of art


 

offline zzligg from Allen,TX (United States) on 2002-05-08 00:41 [#00210121]
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moby's new shit sucks ass


 

offline LPB from Regina (Canada) on 2002-05-08 00:51 [#00210129]
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EMINEM'S THOUGHTS:
And Moby, you can get stomped by Obie,
You 36 year old bald headed fag blow me
You don't know me, you're too old
Let go, it's over, nobody listens to techno.


 

offline LPB from Regina (Canada) on 2002-05-08 00:52 [#00210131]
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That was from Eminem's song "Without Me", I really don't
think that as Moby, Moby is cool, but some of his stuff
sucks.


 

offline Mr_Flappypants from Louisville (United States) on 2002-05-08 00:53 [#00210134]
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eminems not too generous

zzlig's not very generous either


 

offline zzligg from Allen,TX (United States) on 2002-05-08 00:55 [#00210138]
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generous, i'll give moby a generous helping of "FUCK YOU"


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-05-08 01:17 [#00210164]
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moby blows..that's true..whether he blows eminem's kinda
dubious..


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2002-05-08 01:19 [#00210168]
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i wonder what this "master mind" eminem
would say about rdj


 

offline Laserbeak from Netherlands, The on 2002-05-08 01:26 [#00210173]
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I hate eminem and the stupid nonsense he reads, it's not
even funny, it's irritating and obvious. I hate him more
than moby.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-05-08 03:07 [#00210283]
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em would never call out rdj cos rdj isn't the one opening
his fucking mouth about em's lyrics in every single
interview. that's moby's job.


 

offline Zen Storm from St. Charles (United States) on 2002-05-08 04:05 [#00210326]
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I thought his use of the slogen "everything is wrong" is
pretty damn annoying, seeing how so much of the shit he is
involved with is wrong on a much hihger level


 

offline LPB from Regina (Canada) on 2002-05-08 04:08 [#00210329]
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Naaah, I don't think Eminem would make fun of RDJ. He made
fun of Moby, because Moby called Eminem a homophobic, and
misogny. Moby also commented on his lyrics and said they
were bad. That's why Eminem made fun of him.


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-05-08 04:08 [#00210330]
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a vegan animal human rights activist critiquing someone's
right to freedom of speech is pretty strange in my book


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-05-08 04:20 [#00210341]
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Eminem is an ass... he's just using controversy as a
gimic!!!


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-05-08 04:22 [#00210347]
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of coarse..still makes moby a bit of a hypcritical twat


 

offline LPB from Regina (Canada) on 2002-05-08 04:23 [#00210348]
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Moby finds it too harsh eating meat. You know, he is an
animal lover and one of those people who care for the so
much, like Lisa Simpson.


 

offline LPB from Regina (Canada) on 2002-05-08 04:23 [#00210350]
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Oh, what I meant was he cares for the environment so much.


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-05-08 04:25 [#00210354]
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I don't know enough of Moby's music to hate him... some of
the stuff from play I did like though...


 

offline Zen Storm from St. Charles (United States) on 2002-05-08 04:28 [#00210360]
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oh yeah and there's also the facts that he sucks at life


 

offline USACID from Death Valley (Zambia) on 2002-05-08 04:34 [#00210369]
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Eminem's a dick...someone should just severly beat the shit
outta him...i'm mixed on moby's music...i like some stuff
don't care for other...but Eminem's shit sucks...its like
wipin' fecal matter on a disc and selling it...shit sells
right?


 

offline LPB from Regina (Canada) on 2002-05-08 04:37 [#00210378]
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Moby also does drawings, right?


 

offline USACID from Death Valley (Zambia) on 2002-05-08 04:37 [#00210380]
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one other thing...RDJ does something Eminem could never
do...actually a few things...write and produce his own
albums...start his own sucessful label which caters to
intelligent people...i think RDJ is a smart bastard that has
talent?? no?


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-05-08 04:41 [#00210384]
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I am a vegeterian too..and an animal lover...I just dont
choose to thrust my views down other people's throat...and
try and shut em up and bag em for the same rights as you
supposedly defend...


 

offline LPB from Regina (Canada) on 2002-05-08 04:43 [#00210392]
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I am not a vegetarian, but I love animals too.


 

offline USACID from Death Valley (Zambia) on 2002-05-08 04:44 [#00210395]
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Eminem's PWT...poor white trash. I can't wait until someone
bust out tha gaht and pops a cap in his arse...his nothin
but a lil poser bitch. :)


 

offline USACID from Death Valley (Zambia) on 2002-05-08 04:45 [#00210399]
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...ever think Eminem's really gay? He's always pickin on
gay people...i think that he smoked elton johns pole after
that thing they did together...he needs to come outta the
closet


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-05-08 04:47 [#00210403]
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that's exactly what he wants you to believe too..;) it's all
a PR ruse..I bet..he sucked on his mama's teat just like
anybody else...Dre is the genius in all of this..laughing
all the way to the bank and back


 

offline LPB from Regina (Canada) on 2002-05-08 04:47 [#00210404]
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Man, do ever hate Eminem.


 

offline LPB from Regina (Canada) on 2002-05-08 04:48 [#00210405]
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Eminem thinks he is so cool, killing his mom and ex wife in
his album. It's wierd I tell ya.


 

offline nanotech from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-05-08 05:20 [#00210433]
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about 18...it's just a mix of songs that appeal to diffrent
moby audiences...some ppl dig the stuff off of pla, thus a
track that sounds like it was suposed to be on play...some
ppl like his movie scores thus....

u get the picture...

about eminem and his moby bashing...hey, moby put down
eminem in the past (i'm sure more than once), and now eminem
is just returning the favor...and when anyone just upset
about it, it's just playing into eminem's hands...and what
did eminem make fun of? his name? "no one listenes to
techno?" well...first of all...we all listen to
techno...tons of others listen to techno...moby is really
"techno," and what are the instrumentals in eminem's tracks?
i doubt that shady himself is actually playing the drums,
and wahtever else instruments are in the tracks...so what
does that equate to kiddies????? techno. pretty
hipocritical...

personally, i'm going to dl the new eminem cd and spread it
across the net as much as i can...i dled moby's 18, i think
i should do the same w/ eminem, but take it further w/
spreading it.


 

offline nanotech from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-05-08 05:22 [#00210435]
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that should be moby ISN'T "techno"


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-05-08 06:06 [#00210442]
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USACID: sorry to burst your bubble, but eminem's produced
about 30 of the song's he's done (as solo artist, with his
group d12, or featuring on another artist's album, like
jay-z or royce da 5'9), he obviously writes his own rhymes,
and he does come up with the melodies to his songs (not that
they're the most amazing melodies or anything). and to put
the last nail in the coffin, em DOES have his own label:
shady records. personally i like d12, so i can't call it a
shitty label.

anyway, eminem was obviously grasping when he said no one
listens to techno. sure, it wasn't meant to be literal, but
it's not even a very intelligent thing to say and i think
that's one of the worst parts of the song. the point he's
making is that moby tries very hard to appease everyone but
(in eminem's opinion) he'll never succeed cos he doesn't
know what people like (moby thinking it's techno). if you
guys are getting bent out of shape by his moby dis (and it's
intended to dis moby, not people who like techno) then
you're doing what everyone else does; fall into the
controversy of eminem's lyrics. relax.

as for 18, "a track for people who like play"? try 16 tracks
for people who like play, and 2 somewhat newish ones. fuck
moby, commercial assclown.



 

offline Taoist Blockade from Wales on 2002-05-08 06:11 [#00210446]
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Just listened to 18, I wasnt a huge Play fan or anything but
I think Play is stronger. Commercial Assclown? What is that
supposed to mean? The guy makes the music people seem to
want to hear, good for him he deserves his money.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-05-08 06:14 [#00210448]
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he never made a point to repeat himself till now. when
people repeat themselves (without adding ANYTHING new) the
result is always at best less impressive, and at the worst
just awful. moby's watered down version of play is exactly
this. even out of context (the rest of his albums) i don't
think the new songs are particularly memorable, catchy, or
interesting.


 

offline Taoist Blockade from Wales on 2002-05-08 06:47 [#00210457]
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Perhaps not, though it's getting excellent reviews so people
like what they hear. Maybe hes not pushing boundaries but I
dont see how this makes him an assclown.


 

offline nanotech from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-05-08 11:24 [#00210786]
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ok, comercial ass clown? that's really harsh..i've met the
guy here in seattle at the "gravity bar (local vegan
eatery)" and Moby is a really cool, opinionated person... I
don't dig his jesus freakery...but he has a smart head on
his shoulders, and knows what he is doing. and ppl keep
talking about how he "sold out." I think that practially
everyone on this board would kill to get their music on some
sort of comercial spotlight, and make some cash off of it.
And BTW, Moby sure has suceeded...his goal is to make music
that pleases the masses, and make money off of it...well...i
think he did just that...

as for the rest of your remarks about 18 i can't judge the
acuracy on them becasue i've only listened to them a few
times...


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-05-08 11:33 [#00210799]
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I like the essays in his CD covers. They're really
intelligent, unpretentious and not contradictory at all. All
hail the bald twat Moby.

And he cynically tried to cash in on his great-grandfather's
literary success.


 


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