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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-05-07 22:34 [#00209975]
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anyone has an opinion about 18?
i listened to it once (rapidly) and first impression -very melancholic
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USACID
from Death Valley (Zambia) on 2002-05-07 22:36 [#00209979]
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is it out/???
when u say melancholic too, is it like really depressing...or just really pathetic and doesn't deserve to be bought from the store
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-05-07 22:42 [#00209991]
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i think that it doesnt match "play" thou some tracks seem nice but i just got 18 so i can't say if its worth buying it yet
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Donna Simpson
from morgantown (United States) on 2002-05-07 23:11 [#00210033]
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My friend almost choked Moby at a party because he was being a little bitch...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-05-07 23:15 [#00210043]
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choke a guy that seem's like Mahatma Gandhi?
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-05-07 23:16 [#00210045]
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moby can get stopped by obie :P
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Donna Simpson
from morgantown (United States) on 2002-05-07 23:16 [#00210047]
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he was asking for it...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-05-07 23:52 [#00210081]
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this album sucks
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-05-08 00:21 [#00210099]
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you betcha it does!
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2002-05-08 00:23 [#00210100]
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Can't expect too much from him...
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GIR
from Easton on 2002-05-08 00:34 [#00210110]
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i like moby.
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GIR
from Easton on 2002-05-08 00:34 [#00210111]
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seriously though,he needs to bring back his "everything is wrong" ravish stuff.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-05-08 00:39 [#00210115]
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he needs to make another animal rights album.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-05-08 00:39 [#00210116]
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i'm curious what critic's are going to say about this work of art
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zzligg
from Allen,TX (United States) on 2002-05-08 00:41 [#00210121]
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moby's new shit sucks ass
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LPB
from Regina (Canada) on 2002-05-08 00:51 [#00210129]
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EMINEM'S THOUGHTS: And Moby, you can get stomped by Obie, You 36 year old bald headed fag blow me You don't know me, you're too old Let go, it's over, nobody listens to techno.
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LPB
from Regina (Canada) on 2002-05-08 00:52 [#00210131]
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That was from Eminem's song "Without Me", I really don't think that as Moby, Moby is cool, but some of his stuff sucks.
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Mr_Flappypants
from Louisville (United States) on 2002-05-08 00:53 [#00210134]
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eminems not too generous
zzlig's not very generous either
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zzligg
from Allen,TX (United States) on 2002-05-08 00:55 [#00210138]
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generous, i'll give moby a generous helping of "FUCK YOU"
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-05-08 01:17 [#00210164]
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moby blows..that's true..whether he blows eminem's kinda dubious..
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-05-08 01:19 [#00210168]
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i wonder what this "master mind" eminem would say about rdj
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2002-05-08 01:26 [#00210173]
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I hate eminem and the stupid nonsense he reads, it's not even funny, it's irritating and obvious. I hate him more than moby.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-05-08 03:07 [#00210283]
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em would never call out rdj cos rdj isn't the one opening his fucking mouth about em's lyrics in every single interview. that's moby's job.
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Zen Storm
from St. Charles (United States) on 2002-05-08 04:05 [#00210326]
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I thought his use of the slogen "everything is wrong" is pretty damn annoying, seeing how so much of the shit he is involved with is wrong on a much hihger level
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LPB
from Regina (Canada) on 2002-05-08 04:08 [#00210329]
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Naaah, I don't think Eminem would make fun of RDJ. He made fun of Moby, because Moby called Eminem a homophobic, and misogny. Moby also commented on his lyrics and said they were bad. That's why Eminem made fun of him.
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-05-08 04:08 [#00210330]
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a vegan animal human rights activist critiquing someone's right to freedom of speech is pretty strange in my book
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-05-08 04:20 [#00210341]
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Eminem is an ass... he's just using controversy as a gimic!!!
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-05-08 04:22 [#00210347]
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of coarse..still makes moby a bit of a hypcritical twat
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LPB
from Regina (Canada) on 2002-05-08 04:23 [#00210348]
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Moby finds it too harsh eating meat. You know, he is an animal lover and one of those people who care for the so much, like Lisa Simpson.
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LPB
from Regina (Canada) on 2002-05-08 04:23 [#00210350]
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Oh, what I meant was he cares for the environment so much.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-05-08 04:25 [#00210354]
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I don't know enough of Moby's music to hate him... some of the stuff from play I did like though...
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Zen Storm
from St. Charles (United States) on 2002-05-08 04:28 [#00210360]
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oh yeah and there's also the facts that he sucks at life
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USACID
from Death Valley (Zambia) on 2002-05-08 04:34 [#00210369]
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Eminem's a dick...someone should just severly beat the shit outta him...i'm mixed on moby's music...i like some stuff don't care for other...but Eminem's shit sucks...its like wipin' fecal matter on a disc and selling it...shit sells right?
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LPB
from Regina (Canada) on 2002-05-08 04:37 [#00210378]
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Moby also does drawings, right?
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USACID
from Death Valley (Zambia) on 2002-05-08 04:37 [#00210380]
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one other thing...RDJ does something Eminem could never do...actually a few things...write and produce his own albums...start his own sucessful label which caters to intelligent people...i think RDJ is a smart bastard that has talent?? no?
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-05-08 04:41 [#00210384]
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I am a vegeterian too..and an animal lover...I just dont choose to thrust my views down other people's throat...and try and shut em up and bag em for the same rights as you supposedly defend...
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LPB
from Regina (Canada) on 2002-05-08 04:43 [#00210392]
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I am not a vegetarian, but I love animals too.
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USACID
from Death Valley (Zambia) on 2002-05-08 04:44 [#00210395]
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Eminem's PWT...poor white trash. I can't wait until someone bust out tha gaht and pops a cap in his arse...his nothin but a lil poser bitch. :)
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USACID
from Death Valley (Zambia) on 2002-05-08 04:45 [#00210399]
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...ever think Eminem's really gay? He's always pickin on gay people...i think that he smoked elton johns pole after that thing they did together...he needs to come outta the closet
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-05-08 04:47 [#00210403]
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that's exactly what he wants you to believe too..;) it's all a PR ruse..I bet..he sucked on his mama's teat just like anybody else...Dre is the genius in all of this..laughing all the way to the bank and back
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LPB
from Regina (Canada) on 2002-05-08 04:47 [#00210404]
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Man, do ever hate Eminem.
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LPB
from Regina (Canada) on 2002-05-08 04:48 [#00210405]
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Eminem thinks he is so cool, killing his mom and ex wife in his album. It's wierd I tell ya.
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-05-08 05:20 [#00210433]
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about 18...it's just a mix of songs that appeal to diffrent moby audiences...some ppl dig the stuff off of pla, thus a track that sounds like it was suposed to be on play...some ppl like his movie scores thus....
u get the picture...
about eminem and his moby bashing...hey, moby put down eminem in the past (i'm sure more than once), and now eminem is just returning the favor...and when anyone just upset about it, it's just playing into eminem's hands...and what did eminem make fun of? his name? "no one listenes to techno?" well...first of all...we all listen to techno...tons of others listen to techno...moby is really "techno," and what are the instrumentals in eminem's tracks? i doubt that shady himself is actually playing the drums, and wahtever else instruments are in the tracks...so what does that equate to kiddies????? techno. pretty hipocritical...
personally, i'm going to dl the new eminem cd and spread it across the net as much as i can...i dled moby's 18, i think i should do the same w/ eminem, but take it further w/ spreading it.
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-05-08 05:22 [#00210435]
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that should be moby ISN'T "techno"
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-05-08 06:06 [#00210442]
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USACID: sorry to burst your bubble, but eminem's produced about 30 of the song's he's done (as solo artist, with his group d12, or featuring on another artist's album, like jay-z or royce da 5'9), he obviously writes his own rhymes, and he does come up with the melodies to his songs (not that they're the most amazing melodies or anything). and to put the last nail in the coffin, em DOES have his own label: shady records. personally i like d12, so i can't call it a shitty label.
anyway, eminem was obviously grasping when he said no one listens to techno. sure, it wasn't meant to be literal, but it's not even a very intelligent thing to say and i think that's one of the worst parts of the song. the point he's making is that moby tries very hard to appease everyone but (in eminem's opinion) he'll never succeed cos he doesn't know what people like (moby thinking it's techno). if you guys are getting bent out of shape by his moby dis (and it's intended to dis moby, not people who like techno) then you're doing what everyone else does; fall into the controversy of eminem's lyrics. relax.
as for 18, "a track for people who like play"? try 16 tracks for people who like play, and 2 somewhat newish ones. fuck moby, commercial assclown.
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Taoist Blockade
from Wales on 2002-05-08 06:11 [#00210446]
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Just listened to 18, I wasnt a huge Play fan or anything but I think Play is stronger. Commercial Assclown? What is that supposed to mean? The guy makes the music people seem to want to hear, good for him he deserves his money.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-05-08 06:14 [#00210448]
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he never made a point to repeat himself till now. when people repeat themselves (without adding ANYTHING new) the result is always at best less impressive, and at the worst just awful. moby's watered down version of play is exactly this. even out of context (the rest of his albums) i don't think the new songs are particularly memorable, catchy, or interesting.
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Taoist Blockade
from Wales on 2002-05-08 06:47 [#00210457]
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Perhaps not, though it's getting excellent reviews so people like what they hear. Maybe hes not pushing boundaries but I dont see how this makes him an assclown.
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-05-08 11:24 [#00210786]
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ok, comercial ass clown? that's really harsh..i've met the guy here in seattle at the "gravity bar (local vegan eatery)" and Moby is a really cool, opinionated person... I don't dig his jesus freakery...but he has a smart head on his shoulders, and knows what he is doing. and ppl keep talking about how he "sold out." I think that practially everyone on this board would kill to get their music on some sort of comercial spotlight, and make some cash off of it. And BTW, Moby sure has suceeded...his goal is to make music that pleases the masses, and make money off of it...well...i think he did just that...
as for the rest of your remarks about 18 i can't judge the acuracy on them becasue i've only listened to them a few times...
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-05-08 11:33 [#00210799]
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I like the essays in his CD covers. They're really intelligent, unpretentious and not contradictory at all. All hail the bald twat Moby.
And he cynically tried to cash in on his great-grandfather's literary success.
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