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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-05-07 15:16 [#00209357]
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Has anyone got any recommended reading? I'm enjoying 'Lord of the Flies' at the moment. Ceri, you said you read the Tropic of Cancer. Is it any good? My girlfriend bought it yesterday and I might read it next.
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Phresch
from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2002-05-07 15:17 [#00209361]
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"Fear And Loathing In Las Vegas" by Hunter S. Thompson
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Zen Storm
from St. Charles (United States) on 2002-05-07 15:19 [#00209364]
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Some good ones are The Denial of Death by Becker, anything by Terry Pratchet, and of course Zen and the Brain by Austin
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-05-07 15:19 [#00209365]
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hunter s thompson raymond chandler philip k dick charles dickens thomas hardy fyodor dostoyevsky p g wodehouse aleister crowley israel regardie robert anton wilson tom wolfe jack kerouac john steinbeck f scott fitzgerald
read all their books and get back to me in about a year's time for further reading ;)
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Zen Storm
from St. Charles (United States) on 2002-05-07 15:20 [#00209366]
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I'm sorry but Lord of the Flies was not as great as it's been made out to be. While the symbolism in it was very cool, it lacked a lot of depth imo
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-05-07 15:22 [#00209371]
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Marlowe: I loved Wolfe's A Man in Full. Have you read it? I still haven't got round to reading Bonfire of the Vanities yet.
I highly recommend Sheepshagger by Niall Griffiths.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-05-07 15:25 [#00209376]
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i've read electric kool-aid acid test (whichever order those damn words are), the mau mau short book and bonfire of the vanities -- i will look out for a man in full :) i am reading HST's "fear and loathing in america" his letters from 68thru76 -- fucking fascinating reading -- i have his earlier book of letters to look forward to after that :)
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-05-07 15:28 [#00209380]
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I get put off by the whole druggy thing with Hunter S Thompson. I find it really boring - drugs and stuff.
A Man in Full is a must read.
Has anyone read One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest?
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-05-07 15:29 [#00209382]
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yeah i read that book jonesy -- HST is not about drugs -- read those big books of articles by him!! just ignore fear and loathing in las vegas, which incidentally, he wrote whilst NOT on drugs -- the rum diary, his novel, is excellent too... him and tom wolfe are good friends so he must be good :P
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Co-existence
from Bergen (Norway) on 2002-05-07 15:32 [#00209388]
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Milan Kundera - "Immortality" a good one from one of the best authors of Europe...
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-05-07 15:33 [#00209391]
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marlowe>
interesting list. I read R.A.Wilson 's Illuminati trilogy and found it funny but it also tended to disappear up itself in the Talking-Dolphins-fucking-the-sacred-number-23 department ...
jonesy. Yeah OFOTCN, we had to read it for Sociology at school. Most interesting part of the course. Might not read it again though.
I'm reading "Lonely Planet: Vietnam" now.
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Zen Storm
from St. Charles (United States) on 2002-05-07 15:33 [#00209393]
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I completely forgot, one the BEST books I've ever read ; Master and Margarita by Bulgakov
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-05-07 15:34 [#00209394]
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I'll check him out. I just know people who get stoned and watch Fear and Loathing - boring.
Isn't the Kool Aid... about Ken Kesey?
I just finished The Torture Garden by Octave Mirbeau. It was good, but not what I thought it would be.
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Zen Storm
from St. Charles (United States) on 2002-05-07 15:35 [#00209401]
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Acres of Flesh is a pretty cool book too, about the Nazi experiements on "patience"
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Chri5py
from my Solarbear (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-07 15:37 [#00209403]
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I just use them to keep me warm. The old ones burn better but they get a bit smelly. Peew
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-07 15:38 [#00209405]
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Fast Food Nation by Eric Schlosser - An excellent book about the growth and globalization of this once american phenomenon and its implications on modern day world.
Great Railway Bazaar by Paul Theroux - Also an excellent book by Louis' famous travel writer father about travelling on all the worlds major railways. one of my favourites
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-05-07 15:39 [#00209408]
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Yeah it's great, as is the tropic of capricorn (the se/prequel I forget which). If your gf is easily offended you might want to take it off her.
Choice quote: "In this cunty cleft of a street..."
Good books?
Hmm, all time favourites would have to be:
Dalton Trumbo - Johnny got his gun.
Vladimir Nobokov - Ada or Ardor: A family chronicle.
Oscar Wilde - Nearly anything he has written, but "the portrait of dorian grey" is excellent.
Kurt Vonnegut - Slaughterhouse 5
If you like "Shocking" extreme books, Irvine Welsh's Filth is good too.
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Zen Storm
from St. Charles (United States) on 2002-05-07 15:40 [#00209410]
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Ceri: What's Filth about?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-05-07 15:45 [#00209415]
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Corrupt scottish policeman. They guy just get more and more evil as the book progresses. Even though it's a really dark book, it's got a very good message.
Darn - I forgot American Psycho, but you'll all have probably seen the film already...
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-07 15:46 [#00209418]
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the Rachel Papers by Martin Amis is a very funny book too, about a guy who has to sleep with an older woman before he's 21
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map
from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-05-07 15:50 [#00209422]
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Check "Ocean of Sound" it's worth to read it.
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Co-existence
from Bergen (Norway) on 2002-05-07 15:52 [#00209424]
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And "Times Arrow" by Amis is ace as well!
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-07 15:53 [#00209425]
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I've never read any other Amis actually, i'll look into it
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-05-07 15:55 [#00209429]
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I've read "The Information" by Martin Amis.
Its cynical, middle-class, dull & putrifying pap.
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-07 15:56 [#00209432]
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and whats wrong with cynical middle class then?
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Zen Storm
from St. Charles (United States) on 2002-05-07 15:57 [#00209433]
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The Clock of the Big Long Now is really cool too, people on this site would appreciate it
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-07 15:59 [#00209434]
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Francis Wheens biograpgy of Karl Marx is a pretty interesting read too, puts a new perspective on him
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-05-07 16:03 [#00209439]
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The Hitch-hikers guide to the Galaxy Life the Universe and Everything The restaurant at the end of the Universe So long and thanks for all the fish
(Douglas Adams) No reading list complete without it :))
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2002-05-07 16:05 [#00209445]
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i kant reed
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-05-07 16:21 [#00209473]
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Yeah I read Francis Wheen's biography of Marx which is great. I picked up another biography by him yesterday (forgot the name now - socialist Oxford graduate).
Filth is great Ceri. I was disappointed by Glue though - don't bother. You'd love Sheepshagger I'm sure.
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-07 16:29 [#00209480]
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marx led a very interesting, if unstable, life. the person I felt most sorry for was his wife....but then I saw what happened to his kids! horrible!
ironically, only his illegitimate one really survived
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-05-07 16:35 [#00209487]
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Engels spoke more sense. He lived in Manchester, bizarrely
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-07 16:43 [#00209503]
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he lived in manchester
a) because he co-owned works there b) he wanted to study the industrial proletariat
and half the book is about him since they were such close friends
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Cabbog
from Chautauqua (United States) on 2002-05-07 16:45 [#00209509]
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Masters of strange fiction and horror : H.P.Lovecraft and Clark Ashton Smith.. Any of the old paperback volumes ought to be a good place to start.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-05-07 16:49 [#00209517]
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I thought Engels just worked for his father in the factory. My ears pricked up when this was a question on the Weakest link the other day (yes, I know). I recommend that book even to people with no interest in Marx. It really is great.
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-07 16:53 [#00209527]
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didn't his father die though?
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-05-07 16:57 [#00209534]
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Good point. Doh!
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mofo
from glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-07 16:57 [#00209535]
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has n e one ever read "the house of leaves" by Mark Z Danielowski?
i dunno about anyone elce that that book is pretey damn good ( scared the shit out of me!)
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mofo
from glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-07 16:58 [#00209538]
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has n e one ever read "the house of leaves" by Mark Z Danielowski?
i dunno about anyone elce that that book is pretey damn good ( scared the shit out of me!)
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-05-07 17:08 [#00209552]
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I was gonna buy "Stupid white men" by Michael Moore (off channel 4 ?)
'cos its got funny /insightful/dark stuff in it about the US Hegemony of Globalisation & the stitch-up presidential election .
But then I read the chapter on his support of Rebublican Sectarians in Northern Ireland, and his condemnation of all British people's attitude towards Northern Ireland, and i thought...
Nah, he's not so clever after all.
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dolemite
on 2002-05-07 17:21 [#00209570]
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i also liked Filth a lot better than Glue. it's been said that Welsh hasn't been happy with any of his work since Trainspotting, i thought Filth was on the same level as Trainspotting. i think it'd make a great movie, at the least.
Ender's Game (Orson Scott Card) - great book... Speaker for the Dead, is kinda crappy for a 'sequel' though.
i just finished Neuromancer (William Gibson) and liked it a lot. it's amazing that this was written in 1984 and it's been the basis for lots of futuristic ideas in movies, games, and comics ... the end was a little anti-climatic but a pretty good page turner.
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-07 17:26 [#00209581]
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I really liked "The Catcher In The Rye" by J.D. Salinger... I get the feeling that everyones read it tho. Well, i liked it.
It was found in the bedroom of the guy who killed John Lennon. That has no correlation to the book tho.
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PhystPhukt
from The Holiest of Holes (United States) on 2002-05-07 17:29 [#00209585]
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Desperation-Stephen King---
Anita Blake series/ Meredith Gentry series by Laurell K Hamilton.
His Dark Materials... Phillp Pullman ...methinks
Aztec...dunno who its by...
AND.....Anne Rice anything. Although Anne Rice is a stupid History theiving Euro-centric wannabe ho-bag, she's a damn good author.
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Omneignotumus
on 2002-05-07 18:33 [#00209681]
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Bart Koskos "Fuzzy Thinking" was my best read of the past few months.
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dingle berry
from on a small plastic chair breat (Haiti) on 2002-05-07 19:31 [#00209750]
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the wasp factory!
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-05-07 19:44 [#00209760]
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i like to read my THe Bible every night before i drink my hot milk and get tucked in -- i find it to be so inspirational in my day to day life - can't we all just love one another!? (except certain disgusting deviants whom we ought to put in the electric chair and kill em!!)
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-07 19:47 [#00209761]
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I like reading Jaffa Cakes boxes
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joakim
from Norway on 2002-05-07 19:52 [#00209766]
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i was (un)fortunate enough to not have to analyze the iliad by homer in school, so i'm reading it now instead. and i must say, it's a brilliant read!! it comes highly recommended! a rich and colourfull gallery of characters as well as a captivating storyline. i've also read arthur c. clarke's 2001: a space odyssey, which is brilliant.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-05-09 11:15 [#00212027]
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I started The Unbearable Lightness of Being last night. Has anyone read it? What did you think? My girlfriend reckons tis heavy going at times.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-05-09 11:18 [#00212029]
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I haven't read it myself, the uneducated fuck I am, but my mother always rated it very high. I have to read it once!!! Jonesy check my new thread.
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