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offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-05-07 15:16 [#00209357]
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Has anyone got any recommended reading? I'm enjoying 'Lord
of the Flies' at the moment. Ceri, you said you read the
Tropic of Cancer. Is it any good? My girlfriend bought it
yesterday and I might read it next.


 

offline Phresch from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2002-05-07 15:17 [#00209361]
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"Fear And Loathing In Las Vegas" by Hunter S. Thompson


 

offline Zen Storm from St. Charles (United States) on 2002-05-07 15:19 [#00209364]
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Some good ones are The Denial of Death by Becker, anything
by Terry Pratchet, and of course Zen and the Brain by Austin


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-05-07 15:19 [#00209365]
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hunter s thompson
raymond chandler
philip k dick
charles dickens
thomas hardy
fyodor dostoyevsky
p g wodehouse
aleister crowley
israel regardie
robert anton wilson
tom wolfe
jack kerouac
john steinbeck
f scott fitzgerald

read all their books and get back to me in about a year's
time for further reading ;)


 

offline Zen Storm from St. Charles (United States) on 2002-05-07 15:20 [#00209366]
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I'm sorry but Lord of the Flies was not as great as it's
been made out to be. While the symbolism in it was very
cool, it lacked a lot of depth imo


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-05-07 15:22 [#00209371]
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Marlowe: I loved Wolfe's A Man in Full. Have you read it? I
still haven't got round to reading Bonfire of the Vanities
yet.

I highly recommend Sheepshagger by Niall Griffiths.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-05-07 15:25 [#00209376]
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i've read electric kool-aid acid test (whichever order those
damn words are), the mau mau short book and bonfire of the
vanities -- i will look out for a man in full :) i am
reading HST's "fear and loathing in america" his letters
from 68thru76 -- fucking fascinating reading -- i have his
earlier book of letters to look forward to after that :)


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-05-07 15:28 [#00209380]
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I get put off by the whole druggy thing with Hunter S
Thompson. I find it really boring - drugs and stuff.

A Man in Full is a must read.

Has anyone read One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest?


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-05-07 15:29 [#00209382]
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yeah i read that book jonesy -- HST is not about drugs --
read those big books of articles by him!! just ignore fear
and loathing in las vegas, which incidentally, he wrote
whilst NOT on drugs -- the rum diary, his novel, is
excellent too... him and tom wolfe are good friends so he
must be good :P


 

offline Co-existence from Bergen (Norway) on 2002-05-07 15:32 [#00209388]
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Milan Kundera - "Immortality" a good one from one of the
best authors of Europe...


 

offline smokehammer from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-05-07 15:33 [#00209391]
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marlowe>

interesting list.
I read R.A.Wilson 's Illuminati trilogy
and found it funny but it also tended to disappear up itself
in the Talking-Dolphins-fucking-the-sacred-number-23
department ...

jonesy. Yeah OFOTCN, we had to read it for Sociology at
school. Most interesting part of the course. Might not read
it again though.

I'm reading "Lonely Planet: Vietnam" now.


 

offline Zen Storm from St. Charles (United States) on 2002-05-07 15:33 [#00209393]
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I completely forgot, one the BEST books I've ever read ;
Master and Margarita by Bulgakov


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-05-07 15:34 [#00209394]
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I'll check him out. I just know people who get stoned and
watch Fear and Loathing - boring.

Isn't the Kool Aid... about Ken Kesey?

I just finished The Torture Garden by Octave Mirbeau. It was
good, but not what I thought it would be.


 

offline Zen Storm from St. Charles (United States) on 2002-05-07 15:35 [#00209401]
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Acres of Flesh is a pretty cool book too, about the Nazi
experiements on "patience"


 

offline Chri5py from my Solarbear (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-07 15:37 [#00209403]
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I just use them to keep me warm. The old ones burn better
but they get a bit smelly. Peew


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-07 15:38 [#00209405]
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Fast Food Nation by Eric Schlosser - An excellent book about
the growth and globalization of this once american
phenomenon and its implications on modern day world.

Great Railway Bazaar by Paul Theroux - Also an excellent
book by Louis' famous travel writer father about travelling
on all the worlds major railways. one of my favourites


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-05-07 15:39 [#00209408]
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Yeah it's great, as is the tropic of capricorn (the
se/prequel I forget which). If your gf is easily offended
you might want to take it off her.

Choice quote:
"In this cunty cleft of a street..."

Good books?

Hmm, all time favourites would have to be:

Dalton Trumbo - Johnny got his gun.

Vladimir Nobokov - Ada or Ardor: A family chronicle.

Oscar Wilde - Nearly anything he has written, but "the
portrait of dorian grey" is excellent.

Kurt Vonnegut - Slaughterhouse 5

If you like "Shocking" extreme books, Irvine Welsh's Filth
is good too.


 

offline Zen Storm from St. Charles (United States) on 2002-05-07 15:40 [#00209410]
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Ceri: What's Filth about?


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-05-07 15:45 [#00209415]
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Corrupt scottish policeman. They guy just get more and more
evil as the book progresses. Even though it's a really dark
book, it's got a very good message.

Darn - I forgot American Psycho, but you'll all have
probably seen the film already...


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-07 15:46 [#00209418]
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the Rachel Papers by Martin Amis is a very funny book too,
about a guy who has to sleep with an older woman before he's
21


 

offline map from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-05-07 15:50 [#00209422]
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Check "Ocean of Sound" it's worth to read it.


 

offline Co-existence from Bergen (Norway) on 2002-05-07 15:52 [#00209424]
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And "Times Arrow" by Amis is ace as well!


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-07 15:53 [#00209425]
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I've never read any other Amis actually, i'll look into it


 

offline smokehammer from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-05-07 15:55 [#00209429]
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I've read "The Information" by Martin Amis.

Its cynical, middle-class, dull & putrifying pap.


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-07 15:56 [#00209432]
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and whats wrong with cynical middle class then?


 

offline Zen Storm from St. Charles (United States) on 2002-05-07 15:57 [#00209433]
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The Clock of the Big Long Now is really cool too, people on
this site would appreciate it


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-07 15:59 [#00209434]
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Francis Wheens biograpgy of Karl Marx is a pretty
interesting read too, puts a new perspective on him


 

offline smokehammer from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-05-07 16:03 [#00209439]
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The Hitch-hikers guide to the Galaxy
Life the Universe and Everything
The restaurant at the end of the Universe
So long and thanks for all the fish

(Douglas Adams)
No reading list complete without it :))


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2002-05-07 16:05 [#00209445]
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i kant reed


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-05-07 16:21 [#00209473]
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Yeah I read Francis Wheen's biography of Marx which is
great. I picked up another biography by him yesterday
(forgot the name now - socialist Oxford graduate).

Filth is great Ceri. I was disappointed by Glue though -
don't bother. You'd love Sheepshagger I'm sure.


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-07 16:29 [#00209480]
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marx led a very interesting, if unstable, life. the person I
felt most sorry for was his wife....but then I saw what
happened to his kids! horrible!

ironically, only his illegitimate one really survived


 

offline smokehammer from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-05-07 16:35 [#00209487]
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Engels spoke more sense.
He lived in Manchester, bizarrely


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-07 16:43 [#00209503]
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he lived in manchester

a) because he co-owned works there
b) he wanted to study the industrial proletariat

and half the book is about him since they were such close
friends


 

offline Cabbog from Chautauqua (United States) on 2002-05-07 16:45 [#00209509]
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Masters of strange fiction and horror :
H.P.Lovecraft and Clark Ashton Smith.. Any of the old
paperback volumes ought to be a good place to start.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-05-07 16:49 [#00209517]
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I thought Engels just worked for his father in the factory.
My ears pricked up when this was a question on the Weakest
link the other day (yes, I know). I recommend that book even
to people with no interest in Marx. It really is great.


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-07 16:53 [#00209527]
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didn't his father die though?


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-05-07 16:57 [#00209534]
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Good point. Doh!


 

offline mofo from glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-07 16:57 [#00209535]
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has n e one ever read "the house of leaves" by Mark Z
Danielowski?

i dunno about anyone elce that that book is pretey damn good
( scared the shit out of me!)


 

offline mofo from glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-07 16:58 [#00209538]
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has n e one ever read "the house of leaves" by Mark Z
Danielowski?

i dunno about anyone elce that that book is pretey damn good
( scared the shit out of me!)


 

offline smokehammer from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-05-07 17:08 [#00209552]
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I was gonna buy "Stupid white men" by Michael Moore (off
channel 4 ?)

'cos its got funny /insightful/dark stuff in it about the US
Hegemony of Globalisation & the stitch-up presidential
election .

But then I read the chapter on his support of Rebublican
Sectarians in Northern Ireland, and his condemnation of all
British people's attitude towards Northern Ireland, and i
thought...

Nah, he's not so clever after all.


 

offline dolemite on 2002-05-07 17:21 [#00209570]
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i also liked Filth a lot better than Glue.
it's been said that Welsh hasn't been happy with any of his
work since Trainspotting, i thought Filth was on the same
level as Trainspotting. i think it'd make a great movie, at
the least.

Ender's Game (Orson Scott Card) - great book... Speaker for
the Dead, is kinda crappy for a 'sequel' though.

i just finished Neuromancer (William Gibson) and liked it a
lot. it's amazing that this was written in 1984 and it's
been the basis for lots of futuristic ideas in movies,
games, and comics ... the end was a little anti-climatic but
a pretty good page turner.



 

offline mylittlesister from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-07 17:26 [#00209581]
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I really liked "The Catcher In The Rye" by J.D. Salinger...
I get the feeling that everyones read it tho. Well, i liked
it.

It was found in the bedroom of the guy who killed John
Lennon. That has no correlation to the book tho.


 

offline PhystPhukt from The Holiest of Holes (United States) on 2002-05-07 17:29 [#00209585]
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Desperation-Stephen King---

Anita Blake series/ Meredith Gentry series by Laurell K
Hamilton.

His Dark Materials... Phillp Pullman ...methinks

Aztec...dunno who its by...

AND.....Anne Rice anything. Although Anne Rice is a stupid
History theiving Euro-centric wannabe ho-bag, she's a damn
good author.



 

offline Omneignotumus on 2002-05-07 18:33 [#00209681]
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Bart Koskos "Fuzzy Thinking" was my best read of the past
few months.


 

offline dingle berry from on a small plastic chair breat (Haiti) on 2002-05-07 19:31 [#00209750]
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the wasp factory!


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-05-07 19:44 [#00209760]
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i like to read my THe Bible every night before i drink my
hot milk and get tucked in -- i find it to be so
inspirational in my day to day life - can't we all just love
one another!? (except certain disgusting deviants whom we
ought to put in the electric chair and kill em!!)


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-07 19:47 [#00209761]
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I like reading Jaffa Cakes boxes


 

offline joakim from Norway on 2002-05-07 19:52 [#00209766]
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i was (un)fortunate enough to not have to analyze the iliad
by homer in school, so i'm reading it now instead. and i
must say, it's a brilliant read!! it comes highly
recommended! a rich and colourfull gallery of characters as
well as a captivating storyline. i've also read arthur c.
clarke's 2001: a space odyssey, which is brilliant.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-05-09 11:15 [#00212027]
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I started The Unbearable Lightness of Being last night. Has
anyone read it? What did you think? My girlfriend reckons
tis heavy going at times.


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-05-09 11:18 [#00212029]
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I haven't read it myself, the uneducated fuck I am, but my
mother always rated it very high. I have to read it once!!!
Jonesy check my new thread.


 


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