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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-05-06 01:16 [#00207358]
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18% vote for racist Le Pen 78% vote for rightwing Chirac (of those who voted) & 20% stay at home.
people will say this is a great day... a kick-in-the-balls for fascism. ( WTF ??????)
The whole thing makes me feel fucking uneasy about the way all of Europe seems to be heading..... Bastards everywhere are gaining ground and claiming success....
How can 1 in 5 voting for extradition of all foreigners be considered respectable ?
shameful....
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-05-06 01:19 [#00207364]
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again no decent candidate
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diemax
from somewhere in tennessee :( (United States) on 2002-05-06 01:20 [#00207370]
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well at least you didn't have to choose between fucking busch and fucking gore
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-05-06 01:22 [#00207374]
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"If you don't vote for a lizard ...
.. the wrong lizard might win"
(Douglas Adams)
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diemax
from somewhere in tennessee :( (United States) on 2002-05-06 01:22 [#00207376]
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... okay...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-05-06 01:24 [#00207382]
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what if both lizards are defected?
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diemax
from somewhere in tennessee :( (United States) on 2002-05-06 01:26 [#00207385]
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what if all politicians are inherrently bad? that's my theory, which goes hand in hand with the alice in wonder land shrinking door theory
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2002-05-06 01:27 [#00207390]
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The lesser of two evils...
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diemax
from somewhere in tennessee :( (United States) on 2002-05-06 01:27 [#00207392]
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evil doesn't exist
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-05-06 01:28 [#00207394]
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thats what the quote implies...
you're fucked either way you choose to vote.
So when they say : " You didn't vote therefore you can't complain ..."
punch their miserly lights out ; )
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Gonzola
from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2002-05-06 01:28 [#00207395]
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yes, smokehammer, it's getting fucking scary in some parts of europe...italy, austria, france and...denmark; who would have thought that about denmark, they have the roskilde festival and all:)
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diemax
from somewhere in tennessee :( (United States) on 2002-05-06 01:29 [#00207396]
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when i'm confronted by an honest vote over the better of two goods i'll vote- i'll leave that devils advocate b.s. to the fucking lawyers- goodnight
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2002-05-06 01:30 [#00207397]
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Yes it does...
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-05-06 01:31 [#00207398]
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roskilde yeah I know it :)
and in Holland too that gay bastard is gaining popular support with his "polite" two-fingers t the immigrant community...
Its time to fight back
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diemax
from somewhere in tennessee :( (United States) on 2002-05-06 01:31 [#00207399]
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evil? sorry- the world is built with good intentions, not neccessarily good intentions towards you- but good intentions none the less
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-05-06 01:32 [#00207400]
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fight the power
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-05-06 01:36 [#00207403]
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formez les battailons
vive le guillotine !!
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diemax
from somewhere in tennessee :( (United States) on 2002-05-06 01:38 [#00207406]
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vive le guillotine!!! (i think that means something about beheading politicians)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-05-06 01:41 [#00207407]
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there r more humane methods this days
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-05-06 01:41 [#00207408]
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911 just hastened the disturbing trend and most of these foreigners these european citizens want extradited are of african/middle earten/sout east asian descent..correct?
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diemax
from somewhere in tennessee :( (United States) on 2002-05-06 01:41 [#00207409]
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poisonous gas?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-05-06 01:42 [#00207410]
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bullet in the head
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-05-06 01:42 [#00207411]
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911 ...... the boy band flea ? Yes they are fucking evil... i knew it !!
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diemax
from somewhere in tennessee :( (United States) on 2002-05-06 01:43 [#00207412]
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sorry flea... i don't get it
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-05-06 01:43 [#00207413]
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most immingrants in `France are North & west Africans
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diemax
from somewhere in tennessee :( (United States) on 2002-05-06 01:43 [#00207414]
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no 911 when fucking idiots killed my cousin- so don't talk too much about it
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Gonzola
from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2002-05-06 01:44 [#00207416]
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yea give them some zyklon-b, that's kinda civilized IMO
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-05-06 01:45 [#00207418]
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911 9/11 9/11/2001
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Gonzola
from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2002-05-06 01:45 [#00207419]
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;)
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-05-06 01:46 [#00207420]
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he meant the WTC ... 9/11
yes, in England in places people have "had enough" .. there was a lot of suspicion even here about Islam after that event
There has NEVER been any terrorism here from these people but it has been exploited by the BNP fascists and they are now winning local elections in our country ( as of last Thursday)
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diemax
from somewhere in tennessee :( (United States) on 2002-05-06 01:47 [#00207421]
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... by idiots i was talking about : the u.s. government the fucking international corporations and religious evangelist morons
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diemax
from somewhere in tennessee :( (United States) on 2002-05-06 01:48 [#00207422]
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not just those stupid terrorists, fuck they didn't even know what they're doing- mislead is a better description than evil
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Gonzola
from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2002-05-06 01:48 [#00207423]
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that's so fucked up
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-05-06 01:49 [#00207425]
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diemax...
don't want to pry, but do you hold those people responsible for the death of your cousin on 9/11 ? thats kinda interesting if U do ...
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diemax
from somewhere in tennessee :( (United States) on 2002-05-06 01:50 [#00207428]
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the corporations and the u.s. government? hell yes- if the former hadn't fucked with global economy, and the latter hadn't started that stupid "war on drugs" none of this would have happenned, who would you blame?
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-05-06 01:51 [#00207430]
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Australia seems to be in a desperate race to appease their US investors by trying to outdo the American govt and actually placing the innocent civilian Afghan/Muslim Immigrants in concentration camps rather than just fantacizing about it via Americas massive perceptory organ i.e Hollywood and figments like "The Siege"
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diemax
from somewhere in tennessee :( (United States) on 2002-05-06 01:52 [#00207433]
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that's so terrible, i've known plenty of muslims man- great intelligent people, it's very sad that they'd be treated so poorly
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diemax
from somewhere in tennessee :( (United States) on 2002-05-06 01:53 [#00207434]
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so i'll apologize for my stupid inbread dynasty of a "democracy"'s behavior
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-05-06 01:57 [#00207438]
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I just think that you must feel out on a limb with that view diemax....
its great that not every American entertains blood-lust revenge against bearded brown-men in tents in mountains somewhere else to compensate for their loss...
But I have never said to an American that they are solely responsible for 9/11.... I think thats putting the boot in in a really sensitive spot.. and not at all fair on the grieving relatives.
But they ought to look at their outlook on other countries/cultures...
as should `Britain who just see other countries as people to sell weapons to.. :(
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-05-06 01:58 [#00207439]
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dont apologize diemax..politicians are hardly something the human race should apologize for..as they are so far apart from it..
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-05-06 02:04 [#00207441]
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flea..
I despise hollywood war dramas sinister & fucked up
full metal jacket was more thoughtful though...
but yes, Australia seems to be denying humanitarian rights in the mistaken pronouncement that it is "sending a message" to other would-be asylum seekers.
They don't see Australia as a "soft-touch",, rather their only remeining option in a life of unimaginable suffering.
Its shit the way politicians exploit situations to flex muscle for the benefit of their fearful, brainless electorate.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-05-06 02:13 [#00207448]
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some politicians actually in their own beliefs thats what's most affrightning
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2002-05-06 02:17 [#00207451]
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The world wasn't built. Society was. And it wasn't really created with anything like good or evil in mind. Just stuff like progress, or territory, or what have you.
Evil exists. Don't assume I mean that everyone is evil by nature. But it does exist. I have seen it. Its a maaad bitch.
I have also seen good. Can't really have one extreme without the other, right? Its all relative.
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-05-06 02:41 [#00207461]
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agreed. blame is a complicated issue. i just wish more people would fess up and admit that we helped to bring the 9/11 tragedy to us.
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-05-06 20:14 [#00208279]
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I know its boorish to raise your own threads from the dead BUT....
less than 24 hours after discussing far-right leaders across Europe , and the need to "Stop" them... (France, Holland, Austria etc...)
Dutch Far-Right opposition leader Pim Fortuyn was today shot six times in the head after an election interview in Hilversum, Holland.
Tolstoyed, you talked of "bullet in the head" on this thread last night.... was it you ?
come on lads... fess up , whodunnit !!! :D
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2002-05-06 20:16 [#00208284]
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I've heard that Chirac had a scandalous presidency. Not much coverage of that in America--what was it? Le Pen was defeated by the largest margin in French history, I heard from CNN.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-05-07 09:33 [#00209121]
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We've one less facist in the world then. Hopefully someone will take out Le Pen too.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-05-07 09:48 [#00209128]
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it wasn't me or ...
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2002-05-07 12:56 [#00209265]
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Whoa, there's a big picture in the paper with Pim Fortuyn lying on the ground bleeding from his head, neck and chest...
They've allready caught the guy who did it(white 32 yr old (leftwing?)Dutch guy).
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