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offline Junktion from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-04-30 07:47 [#00200448]
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I think it's crap that they yesterday on danish tv linked
music like Slipknot and games like CS to the killings in
Erfurt...
It's pure shit...


 

offline IronLung from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2002-04-30 07:51 [#00200450]
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Agreed....


 

offline Cheffe1979 from fuck (Austria) on 2002-04-30 08:10 [#00200460]
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i have no doubt that most of those"teenage killers" listen
to slipknot opr stuff like that, but, hell, you can't
reverse it. i've played all the video games like quake and
ghost recon a.s.o. which are considered to be "extremly
violent" and i also had my time in black metal and satanism.
but i never had any fight nor have i ever been violent in
any fuckin' way.
it's pure shit..


 

offline Junktion from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-04-30 08:14 [#00200463]
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even worse is that a poll here in DK showed that the most
violent young people was the one that listened to
maintream/pop/straight techno.
the least violent was the one that listened to the
metal/hardcore/esperimental (I actually think you can add
IDM-listeners to that poll as almost nonviolent)


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-30 08:37 [#00200470]
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You have a point, mate, although there is a slight
difference: being violent in an "ordinary" way is one thing:
being rude to people, getting into fights, all the usual
stuff violent people do, and these are often "mainstream
culture" people, and that's one thing. However, extreme
sociopathic examples, like this school shooting is
another and it is pretty obvious why journalists would link
it to artists who champion sociopathic behaviour (M. Manson,
Korn, Slipknot, Black metal etc.) You are danish, but, since
you've been into black metal, I assume you know the story
about Count Grishnak killing Euronimus back then in the
early nineties (was it '93 or '92?) and also about certain
Emperor mambers being in prison for arson/ violence against
gay people. I'm not claiming that kids listening to slipknot
are going to be more violent than those listening to
Britney, but it is obvious why the press will claim that.


 

offline map from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-04-30 08:41 [#00200471]
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Steinhausen was a shooter by a club..


 

offline Junktion from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-04-30 08:45 [#00200472]
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ive heard the stories, but i'm not into blackmetal that
much. I prefer Slipknot, Glassjaw, Deftones a.s.o. the more
chilled out
"smoking-weed-behind-the-school-with-your-mates"-mentality.
I have tried to understand the black-metal scene, but I just
don't get it. Maybe it's too satanic and macabre for me. I'm
a peacefull guy that likes to headbang


 

offline Cheffe1979 from fuck (Austria) on 2002-04-30 08:50 [#00200478]
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i once visited some audiogalaxy black metal boards and from
what i can say is that they are rather dumb. there was a
1000-posts discussion if marilyn manson was a satanist or
not. a guy claimed that he is a "chancellor" in the church
of satan, thats why he sometimes does a very special
handsign, which can only be understood by other members of
the church.... aaarrgghhhh
junktion: i know that smoke-weed-behind-the-school-scene, i
did it myself back in school, hehe 'twas a great time in my
life


 

offline Junktion from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-04-30 08:53 [#00200481]
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it actually gives me chill's everytime i hear Deftones -
Back To School...it always reminds me of that time when you
woke up, went to school and just fucked it all... =)


 

offline Junktion from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-04-30 08:53 [#00200482]
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yeah....I think satanic people are kidding themselves....


 

offline map from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-04-30 08:54 [#00200483]
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word!


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-30 09:02 [#00200492]
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well, I was never into that smoke-weed-behind the school
scene, as I don't do drugs and hate circles of friends made
around such things. Which is not to say I have anything
against any of you, of course. But anyway, what I do like
about stanist bands (even though majority of those are
ridiculous, of course) is that they at least try to break
from the norm, from the mundane, even as 90% of them end up
being another cliche/ norm/ dumb ass group...


 


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