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.....sounds really different from the "...endtroducing"stuff. it's more like UNKLE. -monosylabik and -you can't go home again sound really more technologic, and "drum n bass".... more "digital" than "analog"....there a very few sample, it seems, i also doubt he used some vynils to do these tracks. anyway, even if at a first hearing they sounded pretty er..."strange"....,i really like them, now. anyway, it doesn't seem so "innovative" stuff....what do u think? |
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but hip hop (instrumental) is his game, he pretty much invented or brought about a rebirth in it...I think just doing monosyllabic is the furthest out of his field he can go |
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whats the new album called? i wanna download it |
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http://pages.vpro.nl/3voor12/shows/index.shtml2534202+25352 84+130891+6060600 |
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it rocks! |
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the ones that sound like RATM and David Bowie are the best tracks on the new album |
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thats a live show you're linking to right? the link don't work but i found it on the site anyway. the new album out this year is on the net but i don't know what its called so i can't find it. it was up at hurley.mp3 a while ago but that seems to of disapeared does anyone have a link or know the tracklisting please? |
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Damm I can't get that link to work... if I knock off those numbers on the end I get a red+black+white page with heaps of audio links in german? I can't find any shadow stuff...help |
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b3n, what the hell do you mean he rebirthed hiphop! maybe to a chubby white boy from yorkshire like you!! let me hear you say "REAL HIP HOP" |
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well thats what I mean't you fool! a rebirth in good hip hop hence why I said INSTRUMENTAL! everything had been going further and further gangsta rap orientated what are you some kind of TWAT? and who says i'm white!!? |
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hell you said you looked just like ray mears! just cos gangsta rap came to the mainstream don't mean other hiphop disappeared - DJ shadow hardly had a #1 single huh? there was plenty of real hiphop going on - of course the dumb schmucks who buy the majority of records wanted the fronters rappin about killin, hoes, blunts and all that shit, but real hiphop never left us |
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ok sure, labels like Solesides were operating at the start of the 90's but i'm talking about instrumental hip hop....which other artists were there? (and i'm not talking retorical) and i'm the black ray mears |
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ok joking i'm as white as they come |
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and don't give me any of that massive attack shit, I don't see them as the same at all |
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massive suck shit i know PS i knew you were a white-boy ;) "and i'm the black ray mears" haha - make that your catchphrase :D i don't listen to much Instrumental hiphop - i was just talking hiphop w/ rap... |
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nah, I don't think massive attack are shit but I think overrated I only listen to a few rap groups but mainly the ones affiliated with shadow, instrumental hip hop is the type i'm into most. |
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massive attack do not suck shit, fuck you! :P |
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i am of course aware that i am in a (very small) minority, but i don't like 'em and THAT'S THAT!!! b3n, do you like DJ krush? |
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Yeah agreed marlowe, I've only heard some DJ Krush, I absolutely love Shadow's remix of Meiso...its a great vocal track |
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a great album to buy is "milite" - really magic -- also good is "Zen" |
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The new album is called "The public press". It's been on the net for ages, and you'll find it on audiogalaxy for example. I think it's mostly good and I'm going to buy it when it hits the stores, but some of the tracks got the gayest vocals ever. (gay as in highpitched male trying to sound female, whimpering about love, no offense) |
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i feel sorry for those who cannot comprehend the greatness of massive attack... p.s. dont compare little dj shadow with gods such as massive....its silly |
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go to djshadow.com |
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well if the average massive attack fan is as patronising as you, then i am glad i ain't one! |
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Massive Attack are better than DJ Shadow, no contest :) Shadow is a better DJ though (if you ever heard Massive's essential mix for example) and compare it to BrainFreeze or ProductPlacement. |
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what's the point in all the comparison? it's all just opinion in the end! neither "is" better than the other! |
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Of course, but you could say that about anything. Music reviews aren't good for much for example (unless you know the reviewer to have something of a similar taste to yourself). And when is say "is better" I mean "is better in my opinion" of course. That goes without saying. So I guess I agree with you :) It's funny exchanging views anyway, just won't get you very far.. |
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is say = I say |
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I enjoy both Massive Attack and DJ Shadow for different reasons. I wouldn't say one was better than the other. |
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I've never heard massive attack before... |
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yeah, i don't read music reviews personally - how can i trust a stranger's opinion whom i have had no interraction with at all :) |
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oh my god.. go to right now and check them out. They've released three great albums, all very different in style (one more than the two others), and the fourth album is supposed to be released this autumn, I think. Their latest track is I against I, which features Mos Def on the vocals and is quite good (it's from the soundtrack for Blade II, which is probably bollocks otherwise) |
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Well, I prefer Shadow and think his work's better, you've just got to listen to Influx to see what i'm talking about...but thats just opinion To me, I found mezzanine far too polished |
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i find massive attack dull |
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you'll shit yourself but the entire record was done with samples, just like endtroducing. in the early recording sessions shadow THOUGHT about hiring live musicians but he decided against it. anyway, monosyllabik is an experiment he did to see what he can make out of sampling two bars of music. the whole thing comes from two bars of one song. pretty fucking impressive. and yes it's a tribute to the warp artists, not a new direction for him. anyway the new record kicks ass. much more innovative than unkle. props to josh as always. |
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thought it was the private press...? |
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dj krush has been a major player in instrumental hip-hop since the early 90s; also check out coldcut and the entire ninja tune labor for more of that since the EIGHTIES. as much as i love shadow, he wasn't the first to do what he does (tho he's definitely the best). |
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yea it's called "the private press" named after private press records (limited 1-1000, for non-commercial uses), not "public press" like someone said |
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private.. yes. sorry. |
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IMO coldcut are completely different. I know they've been doing that since then but I think its wrong to compare them because of their hip hop influences, the styles are much more different and shadow shouldn't be lumped into a 'trip hop' genre. While I do like coldcut, too much of their work isn't serious enough. Ninja Tune has made some good stuff though and more beats & pieces and the erik b & rakim remix are pretty key in the evolution of it all. you can nearly always find someone else that was doing it before another person, but with each artist it progresses. and you say it was all done in samples, sure, but the production techniques have changed somewhat. He's now moved into using a proper studio and protools (though I should think his mpc is still a major part) and that has to have an effect on the finished product |
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i think coldcut and shadow are perfectly comparable; they're both sample collage artists and they both do hip-hop. and shadow makes a lot of serious music, but he also makes whimsical stuff like coldcut. i'm not saying you can hear a coldcut track and think it's dj shadow, but they're in the same realm. here's an interesting article about shadow's latest techniques. |
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On the weekend i spotted a new import Shadow CD in HMV. Its a live mix CD from Austen (is that Texas?). The cheeky fucks are charging £17. I'm not that much of a fan! Anyone got it? |
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aw, jonesy, good to see ya again my man... Thanx for the e-mail... Btw, Private press is apparently not going to be out in april, as DJ Sh signed for island and it's a major label record deal so it will be out in june... |
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What a whore!!!. What happened to Mo Wax? Did Lavelle sell it? |
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dunno... Lavelle is a Cunt anyway, right? |
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oh, so much arguing.....i just wanted to know what do u think about dj shadow's new stuff! lol |
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I liked some of it more than Entroducing, which I didn't like at all, completely missed me I'm afraid... Private press has some great tracks, but some of it is extremely boring to me... There's this one song with dude singing and it's embarrasing, well, perhaps it was meant as a joke but it's too long for my taste... There's also some live cutting stuff in the end, with Kut Chemist and some more scratch dudes, which I'm not sure if it's part of the album or my friend just put it there to fill the CD. Technically stunning, but otherwise rather pointless IMHO... |
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I've only heard Monosylabik which is good. Yeah Lavelle's a cunt of the highest order. He got the Pyschonauts to mix his Cream mix CD some years back (I've probably harped on about this before - sorry). Did Lavelle sell Mo Wax and Shadow got dropped? Have I got that right? |
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There you go again Meho with your heretic comments. Shame on you. |
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