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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2024-11-15 21:29 [#02639442]
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>> there still is some sensible people running the system and
institutions listen to what you are saying they are not fucking priests, then can be sacked, they should always (like the rest of us) be in fear of being sacked
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2024-11-15 21:32 [#02639443]
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the entire civil service in UK needs to be sacked every single NGO, charity, human rights whatever,WHISPERED INTO NOTHING
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Cliff Glitchard
from DEEP DOWN INSIDE on 2024-11-16 01:47 [#02639449]
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“they're trying to appeal to right wing people who are not their base”
I’m struggling to see where there was any attempt to appeal to the right? The msm certainly wasn’t portraying that. A warmongering Liz Cheney’s endorsement was about as powerful as Cardi B’s.
The downturn in votes for Harris compared with Biden’s win only adds to the speculation the Dems cheated 2020. What with Biden’s record vote coming in almost half the counties that Obama won, whilst also losing key swing states.
Kamala Harris had a run for president in 20, before 4 years as VP. Then tried to hide from any meaningful scrutiny on policies.
Nothing about her was ever trying to appease the right.
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Roger Wilco
from Mo's Beans on 2024-11-16 02:10 [#02639450]
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But the Dems are those things, or are California and San Fransisco just aberrations?
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2024-11-16 03:33 [#02639451]
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wolfslice is from frisco and he's a woke gay nonbinary transracial communist drag queen gamer but I think he votes libertarian
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2024-11-16 03:34 [#02639452]
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sorry, they them
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kei9
from Argentina on 2024-11-16 20:26 [#02639453]
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2024-11-17 02:08 [#02639454]
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get it straight man. I'm a otherkin-adjacent muslim furry.
An acquaintance told me recently his wife is "anti-natalist" and I literally laughed out loud in his face at just the term. But now I'm an anti-natalist as well, for clout.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2024-11-17 10:42 [#02639462]
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I'm sorry but you're quite literally being crazy if you think electoral fraud in the order of 20 million votes is the more likely explanation and I beseech you to get out of whatever bizarre social media bubble you've embedded yourself into.
A Democratic strategist says they warned key Harris surrogates and top-level officials at the Democratic National Committee that campaigning with Liz Cheney — and making the campaign’s closing argument about how many Republicans were supporting Harris — was highly unlikely to motivate any new swing voters, and risked dissuading already-despondent, infrequent Democratic voters who had supported Biden in 2020. The strategist says they also attempted to have big donors and battleground state party chairs convey the same argument to the Harris campaign.
Another Democratic operative close to Harrisworld says they sent memos and data to Harris campaign staffers underscoring how, among other things, Republican voters, believe it or not, vote Republican — and that the data over the past year screamed that Democrats instead needed to reassure and energize the liberal base and Dem-leaning working class in battleground states. “We were told, basically, to get lost, no thank you,” says the operative.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/har ris-cheney-democrats-campaign-trump-election-2024-123515880 5/
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Cliff Glitchard
from DEEP DOWN INSIDE on 2024-11-17 17:32 [#02639473]
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I’m not on any social media to be in a bubble. Also there wasn’t a 20m voter swing. It’s far less, but besides the point, as I never suggested that was the case. Merely the down turn adds to the speculation, in which only needed narrow wins in key swing states to win the electoral college.
It does make me laugh you credit a social media bubble for opinion, while posting a rolling stone article.
Didn’t seem to be an issue prior to the election within that media bubble, who were busy claiming Harris ran the perfect campaign.
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2024-11-17 18:51 [#02639477]
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I've never once seen darius compose a direct response argument where she *didn't* lump the opposing viewpoint in with some fringe strawman ideology that was never really part of the base argument.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2024-11-17 20:44 [#02639479]
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yeah dude sorry i'm taking into account the social context of public discourse, i know sociology is entirely foreign to libertarians
It does make me laugh you credit a social media bubble for
opinion, while posting a rolling stone article. it's a pretty mainstream culture magazine so i don't really know what you mean by that. i'm also not really seeing what would be controversial about the reporting in this particular article.
Didn’t seem to be an issue prior to the election within
that media bubble, who were busy claiming Harris ran the perfect campaign. i wouldn't know, i don't read lib media or particularly care about them. anything you can point me to?
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2024-11-17 20:48 [#02639480]
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oh and you're absolutely right, i hadn't looked at more recent numbers and it's more like a 7.5 mil difference. that doesn't really make the fraud theory less mad though, let's be serious.
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2024-11-17 22:25 [#02639482]
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darius insists that my criticisms of neocon meddling in Ukraine are because I want Putin to put trans women in concentration camps. The Moar You Know
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2024-11-19 16:49 [#02639494]
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day one!
we all know elections go about: money and power/status
you vote who you expect to give you more. thats why trump won. simple as that.
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2024-11-19 16:50 [#02639495]
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oh yeah and lobbyism
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