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cash only!! need money, cant use banks or paypal. grapeful for any suggestions. ty |
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You know where this is going don’t you? |
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I guess make sure they wear a condom. |
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learn to count cards and play blackjack? |
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maybe less safe but slip on some stairs and collect the disability |
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then id only have to watch out for cops, robbers and the organized crime. but id take any suggestions really. |
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im already sort of disabled, dont want to make it any worse. |
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only with a brain uprade and faster legs. |
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it would have to be something i can do or sell in the limited free time i have. since i already have a job. |
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now there is a lot of frost these days and many people dont secure their pedestrian walks with salt and gravel. but nooo. |
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get another job ? dunno how disabled you are :) and how many another jobs German work system allows. Good luck:] |
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thats the tricky part. im not capable of working full time. that would be 38,5 min. per week. in reality more like 42+ per week in germany. by international standards thats low. but im not entirely disabled and im capable of working 20 hrs. per week all year and be good. i do work every week day, 10-20 hours a week. which earns 520€ tax free, so i get additional welfare. about the same amount and that works great. as long as i dont get into debt. however if i earned any more, id only be able to keep 20 ct per any additional euro, and 10 ct every euro exceeding 600 total income. that may include selling stuff on the internet, like bandcamp, e-bay if you resell stuff and basically any bank transfers. so, once in debt there is hardly any way to get out of it. it gets even worse when you live with a partially disabled partner aswell. because if one of us would earn a minimum wage part time job around 1300, the state would deduct any welfare for the partner. so, lets say i earned too much in one month and would lose welfare, then id have to pay back parts of health insurance, pay taxes and my partner would receive less welfare. meaning that instead of having a combined income of 2000+ euros (incl. welf.) wed end up only having about half of that. after cost of living we usually have about 100€ each for saving and fun. so savings arent there. unless you find other ways. im grateful for our system, it has a few flaws though. |
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tldr: -cannot keep any additional income. -cant work enough to have more than combined job and welfare. - |
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it's hard. many fall outside what the system the demands. the system could be worse, as you say, but also it should be way better (imo, i'm for socialism) myself, i barely keep up with the demands, but do make enough money. i'm privileged, i can say, though i do try to give back to society i don't know good ways to make some extra money. legal ways pay very little (and there's the risk that you lose welfare). (am not knowledgeable on less legal ways) best i can think of is finding mutual aid kind of things: collectives that cook together and buy food in bulk for that |
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and those aid things could also possibly help with overcoming difficulties stemming from disabilities this sort of stuff i know more from theory than that i've dabbled into them myself. thought i've been involved in action work, that also values taking care of each other |
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thx for the heads up, sharing and saving money would be helping. just hope ill get the usual support. its highly unusual, not having received any funds for 2,5 months and going. not a good sign, but fingers crossed.. |
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you're literally in a precarious situation who knows, possibly there's also funds for specific things, like for when you need a new washer or something (besides not-funds, but orgs, that give free food) |
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you can get these funds, but one time only when you move out. never needed any of that, because my family hooked me up with used stove, fridge and washing machine back when i moved out. after that you are supposed to build your own safety funds to replace broken household equipment. but there is goodwill places to get all those for 100€ each. usually really old stuff but its functional and thats what matters. then there is ads. we buy everything from ads, dirt cheap. and we have everything, im more afraid, that something went wrong and id have to pay back thousands, because of bureaucracy and unfair stupid fines. |
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when my wife (then gf) had to apply for welfare she had to go to two different institutions. jobcenter and welfare center, which is mandatory if you lose your job. she got a job second month of receiving a combination of welfare and unemployment support (because unemployment support is only a third of what your previous job was (around 960€) immediately she gave notice of her new job and gave a copy of her contract to the welfare center. now the 100€ from unemployemnt benefits from jobcenter arent needed anymore. the very next month one or both institutions notice she was "overfunded" 100€ and it was deducted and paid back immediately. she also gave a copy of her new contract to jobcenter. the trainee at jobcenter refused to stamp her contract as acknowledgement of reception, claiming it has a name on the stamp and she doesnt want that or sth. one full year later she received a letter accusing her of fraud over that 100€. she was supposed to explain herself on the matter and or pay a fine, which could be up to a few thousand €. we spent months explaining that and still ended up paying a 150€ fine almost 3 years later. in between we had applied for a lawyer and took lots of paid support. huge waste of tax money and we lived in fear and anger over sth, because the two institutions dont work together and a delayed document. |
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Happy to say, it all turned out well and i can buy vine eeels. |
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woop |
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this happens in the Netherlands as well. one such case, the '' hit thousands of people and so was able to become a national scandal. but these systems will always turn into this, when there isn't strong, more leftwing, opposition (not just politically, but throughout society) |
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wow, havent heard about that one.juzmkejhsdgjfdkrtgijrfjhrfcifufikfic excuse me, wife was typing, lol |
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the idea to support only those in need is right, but it usually is complicated. some say its institutional that it is that complicated. not sure about this one, but it makes sense for the government to be measured in the money in and out. now, beaurocracy and jobs behind welfare systems and everything involved unemployment are way too overcumbed and expensive aswell. the success rate of putting people into work with it is more than questionable. especially considering that huge parts of beneficiants are chronically ill or disabled. |
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there is the idea of having a free income of about a 1000€. many people have been calculating this back and forth. my bank and the ceo of a nationwide drugstore amongst other skilled people estimate it would cost the state a billion to support every german citizen with a 1000€, but effectively that sum shrinks down to 250 million € on the household, because it is taxable income for those who earn more than minimum. then low income families and persons would benefit greatly and would be free to choose what they want to do for a living instead of being forced to do bullshit jobs. some people argue, no one would work anymore, but thats bullshit, you would definitely have to do something in addition, because hardly anyone can live on a 1000€ here. out of all persons i know no one would be happy with living on a 1000€. so you would save many many millions in beaurocracy, no one would have to live in fear. people could be employed or choose to do work they like. it would greatly increase the umber of self employed people in startups and it would greatly decrease the number of job related illness in the country, which could effectively decrease health care cost. i still consider this a radical approach with lots of hidden variables, but i truly believe that its worth a shot. is this discussed in your countries aswell? |
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whilst reading your post i had a strong synaesthetic reminder of the crumble atop the blueberry crumble that i ate last night |
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ok srs everyone is doing this. like /everyone/.... what can you do that will be different? sit down and have a good long hard think about it, take your time. otherwise it is pennies, or basically stupid hours for what you could get at a basic job with constant cat'n'mouse type optimisation required.... so do yourself a favour and use your imagination. |
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>>UBI or you could just sign on, whatever |
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