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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2023-12-28 00:46 [#02631719]
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shots fired!
FWIW I enjoyed Prey and forgot about it immediately.
I certainly didn't get triggered about it.
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big
from lsg on 2023-12-28 07:44 [#02631720]
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yeah, it's just a cool premise, the setting
sorry about the directness
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big
from lsg on 2023-12-28 07:49 [#02631721]
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some predator lore: from what i recall. While i do definitely agree, it was his first hunt as he was going after everything, i remember that the director did state this predator wasn't the same as the ones that we know. In the comics, there are many types of yautja, and he wanted a more bare-bones type, so it wasn't so overpowered. I think that is what makes this movie so good, a director who knew about all of the lore(kindve) and a great story. I mean, he always thought that the best fight in the first movie was the one you didn't see with Billy. That was his starting point, then it was Native Americans vs Predator but too overpowered, so he went with this idea of a Predator that isnt as tech heavy and more of like a first scouting mission (in the movie they talk about the time before, so it seems that predators send these bare bones type to recon the planets first. However, like you hit on, they still have the whole warrior proving ground where they need to blood themselves. But when they came the first time, humans were still too primitive so the planet was regarded as easy. Now, with the predator being killed, it then gets marked for the more superior hunters)
https://old.reddit.com/r/horror/comments/13meh69/how_do_you _all_think_the_movie_prey_2022_holds_up/jkwhxg5/?context=2
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big
from lsg on 2023-12-28 10:26 [#02631722]
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(not hating obara, just racism. racism bad.)
(i thought tony meant he forgot about the setting immediately.)
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2023-12-28 12:03 [#02631723]
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I want to know about the plenty of french movies they wouldn’t know
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2023-12-28 14:18 [#02631724]
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Somehow the whole movie vanished from my consciousness. I meant, I didn't brood over it.
I don't see how it could be woke. Because a woman kills the alien? That's been a thing since Ellen Ripley. Because it showed European attitudes towards indigenous people? Well, that's historical fact. You'd have to have been primed by years of dumb culture wars bullshit to get your jimmies rustled over it.
I should watch it again, it was one of the better entries in the franchise.
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big
from lsg on 2023-12-28 14:31 [#02631725]
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i called it predator meets The Revenant, because it shows American nature well. so that was memorable for me
also they teased a sequel in the end title animations, i remember that and am hoping for it. would be a big war between between the indigenous, possibly teaming up with europeans and predators. or possibly a better idea
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big
from lsg on 2023-12-28 14:32 [#02631726]
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i saw Athena this year. i thought that was good
it's actually pretty cool the French fund their arts
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obara
from Utrecht on 2023-12-28 17:27 [#02631727]
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I don't mind watching people of any race on screen.
I just meant sometimes female protagonist works for a movie - and sometimes doesn't or seems forced.
Is that racist ? Imo not.
Mandalorian series is a great example of that. I just stopped watching it at the beginning of s03.
Have a nice day !
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2023-12-28 18:55 [#02631730]
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my film nollij is poor at best but has anyone seen historias minimas? argentinian film from 2002, v gud and not mentioned yet
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big
from lsg on 2023-12-29 08:48 [#02631734]
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so it's a woman thing
same kind of hate
the movie's not woke. it's just a setting they choose. i think you've been brainwashed into a hateful way of thinking.
or i mean they didn't make the movie the way they did just for scoring woke points. because i do like how they choose the setting with the Comache and with a girl lead actor. so i think it's progress that we can see a story from this other perspective. it might even significant. here a cool article about it: “For a period piece, it showed so much more cultural ac...
you don't have to like the movie. in fact you already tried, so that's good. but i'd urge you, for your own good, to get out of this way of thinking. it's better for yourself
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big
from lsg on 2023-12-29 09:12 [#02631740]
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"Representation is the kind of woke buzzword that would have had Arnie and his meathead brigade reaching for their grenade-launchers back in the 80s."
LAZY_TITLE
lol
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big
from lsg on 2023-12-29 09:20 [#02631741]
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to sweet summer child Tony Danza, who didn't think people could culture war over this movie: the reddit drama thread
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-12-29 10:35 [#02631743]
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you're not being hateful recognizing there's some epic pandering going on and some high level pressure to take existing properties and gender swap em.
Doesn't mean every instance is bad, prey mighta been cool. But you're not being hateful, don't listen to that jibberish.
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-12-29 10:41 [#02631744]
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I skipped prey because I have little tolerance for soft reboots and the likes. A bad movie kinda ruins the rest of the series for me. Didn't watch the new star wars or indiana jones movies for that reason too.
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-12-29 10:42 [#02631745]
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I still don't know how to feel about Star Trek after Picard gave it aids
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big
from lsg on 2023-12-29 10:51 [#02631746]
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Prey is a very worthy successor prequel
i guess i could see being a bit sceptical about Disney in general. because of course they're an evil corp: anyone should be anti capitalist
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-12-29 10:59 [#02631747]
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I'm actually totally with ya there, big
The capitalism function of always requiring growth has led to the only movies being produced for theaters are big spectacle super hero things designed for the "every man" (or woman.) Big studio movies have been bad for awhile, before this sorta progressivism took hold.
Studio *requirements* for specific levels of diversity (be it racial or gender or what have you) are a curveball as well, detrimental to pure storytelling.
Another curveball is the rise of The Streaming Movie, which causes the studios involved to churn out only semi watchable content but at a faster rate.
There are a lot of problems with movies right now, it's truly a bad time for cinema.
The reason I made this thread was because I was so impressed with I'm Thinking of Ending Things, which goes against every current grain in every way possible. +++Charlie Kaufman, a real treasure of cinema.
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-12-29 11:02 [#02631748]
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I rewatched No Country For Old Men the other day. I miss when something like that would actually come out in theaters.
I watched Oppenheimer and I guess that was close, but not as much fun.
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big
from lsg on 2023-12-29 12:29 [#02631749]
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most of all: there isn't some woke conspiracy going on. mostly it's marginalized groups claiming their piece of the pie, and groups with privilege not wanting to give it up
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big
from lsg on 2023-12-29 12:39 [#02631750]
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i'm going to see Killers of the Flower Moon in a bit
last thing i saw was Napoleon
really it's kind of unfortunate i have to watch these movies by old, white guys: make some room for new talent, plz
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2023-12-29 13:15 [#02631751]
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The boy and the heron
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2023-12-30 02:17 [#02631755]
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even if we assume it's for marketing reasons, i don't see how there's anything particularly wrong in itself with making an effort to produce action films with women protagonists for a change. as if white male muscle isn't pandering.
but it doesn't matter because wolfslice and obara's opinions aren't real anyway and they've just caught them from some poison swamp. i'm sure they don't actively hate women, hopefully!
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big
from lsg on 2023-12-30 10:30 [#02631758]
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star wars tweet on this subject, that's making the rounds again on xitter
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mermaidman
on 2023-12-30 22:33 [#02631769]
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there are so many good movies not mentioned here but i'm not gonna name any of them
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mermaidman
on 2023-12-30 22:34 [#02631770]
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because i don't want russelldust to know them and add them to his watchlist that's why
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big
from lsg on 2023-12-31 00:39 [#02631771]
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russel be vulturing our culture
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-12-31 01:36 [#02631772]
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Dimly lit back alley
Steam rising from the street vents. A siren wails in the distance.
Russelldust approaches a shadowy figure on the street.
He opens his trench coat to reveal several clipped on VHS tapes. Russell's eyes flirt over Bend It Like Beckham, Set It Off! (with Queen Latifa), and Paul Blart Mall Cop.
Interested in some movies young man?
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RussellDust
on 2023-12-31 09:19 [#02631773]
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Do you have Dude where’s my Car?
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RussellDust
on 2023-12-31 09:49 [#02631775]
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You just can’t be bothered.
Forgot so many, eternal sunshine comes to mind. Great call, wolfslice!
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RussellDust
on 2024-01-06 20:30 [#02631815]
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Obv it’s a childhood fave so I’m biased, but watched the Wizard of Oz the other day and really enjoyed myself. Ahead of its time.
Reminds me I have the Lynch/Oz documentary to watch!
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big
from lsg on 2024-01-07 11:54 [#02631820]
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i made top 21 movies so you can include this movie, too
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Combo
from Sex on 2024-01-20 20:53 [#02632076]
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Hello!
Ok let's go:
Lost Highway Citizen Kane Vertigo Tokyo Story The Wind (Sjöström)
Night of the Hunter Shock Corridor The Woman in the Window Stalker Nosferatu (1922)
Johnny Got his Gun Blow Up Persona The Discreet Charm of Bourgeoisie The Leopard
Santa Sangre Gertrud Suspiria Eyes without a Face Salò, or the 120 Days of Sodom
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RussellDust
on 2024-01-20 21:06 [#02632078]
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Some great ones there! Blow Up, yes! Wanna watch that again. Now.
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Combo
from Sex on 2024-01-20 21:07 [#02632079]
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Oh it's been a while! I'm so happy :-)
And seeing le Prestige de la Mort in your list, such a joy!
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Combo
from Sex on 2024-01-20 21:16 [#02632081]
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Blow Out is cool too.
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mermaidman
on 2024-01-20 21:24 [#02632082]
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i really like blow up too! there is another mystery thriller by the same guy with jack nicholson in it that i like also but i won't name it because you know... russell
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Combo
from Sex on 2024-01-20 21:38 [#02632083]
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It's the Passenger from 1975 (not to be mistaken for "Passenger", the polish movie from 1963, which is great too by the way).
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2024-01-21 15:01 [#02632094]
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Luc Moullet rules, I watched le Prestige de la mort when Godard died because I was feeling sad and it cheered me right up
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Combo
from Sex on 2024-01-21 15:29 [#02632095]
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Sadly Moullet hasn't done anything since "Assemblée générale" in 2014, except a few interviews and his biography. I miss his short movies, they are all good. I think he inspired you very much, correct?
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2024-01-21 17:57 [#02632100]
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Actually I discovered him relatively late! Like around 2009 when there was some sort of retrospective somewhere. But yes I was enchanted that someone was doing what he was doing and that it was real cinema. He is an inspiration in the sense that I'm very happy that he exists and he gives me confidence in my aesthetic choices.
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Combo
from Sex on 2024-01-21 19:30 [#02632102]
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There was a retrospective at the Centre Pompidou in 2009. I discovered him a few years before, randomly entering a movie theater where he was to present "Brigitte et Brigitte" and have a debate after the projection. I was very much impressed by the film, and most of all by the man.
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Combo
from Sex on 2024-02-02 10:38 [#02632269]
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I watched "After Last Season" on wednesday evening. I liked it very much. Why the terrible ratings and critics on IMDB??
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2024-03-15 06:33 [#02633521]
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bump
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Combo
from Sex on 2024-04-17 12:31 [#02634945]
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Just watched La Commune. It was very wonderful.
Any more Watkins recommendations?
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Combo
from Sex on 2024-05-30 10:09 [#02635824]
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The Blind Owl by Ruiz deserves to be in a top 20.
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big
from lsg on 2024-05-30 16:18 [#02635837]
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i'll do the thing where i tag Furiosa to Fury Road
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