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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-12-05 07:49 [#02631224]
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Glyped Witchfritter (2:57).
Comes in a little weird? stick with it for a bit, I think it came out clean. quite a bit of sequencing and sound design.
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-12-05 07:49 [#02631225]
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Glyphed. shit. It's correct on the track at least.
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2023-12-05 08:11 [#02631226]
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the first minute or so doesn't do a lot for me, but the pads peek out at 0:59 and make everything peachy, well worth a listen
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-12-05 08:24 [#02631227]
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thx belb! yeah I suspected the first minute was a bit too odd and % of people would just nope out the track right there. But it grew on me a lot while I was building the song. It's sorta like drums laughing at you, or something like that.
really appreciate the listen.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2023-12-05 13:10 [#02631228]
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U speled ur sawngs rong Thatz verry punk
Me likes a lot Butt you already knew that would prol be my comment Needs to be 8-10 minutes long mate
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2023-12-05 16:35 [#02631229]
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yeah it starts out a bit busy then gets realll good. nice feelz
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2023-12-05 19:12 [#02631230]
Points: 40005 Status: Regular | Followup to Tony Danza: #02631229
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Duh brah.
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-12-05 21:35 [#02631234]
Points: 4899 Status: Regular | Followup to recycle: #02631228
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thx TD and recycle!
thad I've never made an 8 minute track in more than 2 decades of makin beatz! longest I think is around 5 min, and that overstayed its welcome i'm sure. my personal style just a bit too jammy (I *like* jammy though) and too much forward momentum, would just get tiresome.
need a slow, confident brooding thing like autechre's uviol. Concise, effortless sounding 8 minute track. Man, confield is so good.
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2023-12-05 21:47 [#02631235]
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Love this. Maybe a bit messy here and there but that doesnt bother me. Can you tell me something about your setup?
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-12-05 22:20 [#02631236]
Points: 4899 Status: Regular | Followup to -crazone: #02631235
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thanks -crazone!
It's all digital baby. DAW is ableton 11-- not really using the live mode stuff for this one but rather the full sequence window to build everything.
Individual drum hits from ableton stock and NI's Battery 4 (never use anyone elses loops).lot of effects everywhere- a few different reverb vsts, a bit of ableton's grain delay here and there, formant filters, eqs and the like-- a lot of it from Native Instrument's komplete.
Main synth is Massive X which I'm comfortable designing a new sound from scratch on. I really love Massive X. There's a bit of Absynth 5 for some of the pads.
But yeah it's just fairly meticulous sequencing and a lot of digital knob tweaking in record. thx again!
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-12-05 22:24 [#02631237]
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I really do a lot of editing, redrawing lines and such.
I wish I could do that with this thread to add an H.
I looked up Glyped to see if it even meant anything.
"Glype Definition & Meaning
YourDictionary Glype definition: (Ireland, slang) An annoying idiot."
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2023-12-05 23:57 [#02631243]
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Whateves
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kei9
from Argentina on 2023-12-06 04:29 [#02631245]
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this got better and better as it unfolded, that ending was awesome.
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-12-06 11:23 [#02631256]
Points: 4899 Status: Regular | Followup to kei9: #02631245
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appreciate the listen kei, for this and the last few tracks as well. glad you liked it!
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kei9
from Argentina on 2023-12-06 19:32 [#02631282]
Points: 425 Status: Lurker | Followup to Wolfslice: #02631256
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always glad to listen to things id like to be able to do myself
only idea for improvement is to have everything be as functional to musicality as possible, I especially liked the ending because of this, it was still contorted but in a much more to the point way. not saying anything else does not have its place, but if I were you I would switch the proportions: make the more busy parts be a contrast to longer passages of clearer stuff.
this is how afx makes his stuff really, he usually does not rely on changes in harmony for development but instead goes for busier weirder stuff in the middle before going back to the main ideas again at the end collapse is a clear example of this. its pretty clever as he achieves something with rhythm most composers do by modulating.
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-12-06 22:39 [#02631310]
Points: 4899 Status: Regular | Followup to kei9: #02631282
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Yeah I totally get what you mean, esp with afx's RDJ album. The sections are like point/counterpoint in contrast (esp Yellow Calx, peek... hell that whole album). It makes them more like "real songs" rather than jams (tho he pretty jammy in drukQs).
What that approach relies on tho, imo... is a pretty strong melodic motif to drive the track, before he starts squiggling it. I simply don't know how to write a strong melody. Through practice, I've become pretty good at rhythmic stuff, and pretty good at layering and building to a harmony... but if you asked me to just write a nice melody in isolation, I could not do it, not to my standards anyway.
So the real next step has been clear for awhile: just learn the dang piano. I don't care about playing it technically well; just want to learn HOW to compose melody properly by playing other people's melodies. A peek under the hood.
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kei9
from Argentina on 2023-12-07 01:57 [#02631322]
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Indeed, understanding stuff at the piano goes a long way, and you dont need to really play it beyond tryng out chords and scales and making that groove or be meaningful in some sort of way, and then combine that with what you already know.
even if richard can make awesome melodies you dont need to be coltrane to make the melodies in most of RDJ album, or even vordhosbn (had to look that up ahaha awesome track), its all really simple melodies mostly made from outlining triad chords mostly, but that is made to work with the sequencing and drum programming in a very meaningful (musical) way.
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