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offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-12-05 07:49 [#02631224]
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Glyped Witchfritter (2:57).

Comes in a little weird? stick with it for a bit, I think it
came out clean. quite a bit of sequencing and sound design.


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-12-05 07:49 [#02631225]
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Glyphed. shit. It's correct on the track at least.


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2023-12-05 08:11 [#02631226]
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the first minute or so doesn't do a lot for me, but the pads
peek out at 0:59 and make everything peachy, well worth a
listen


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-12-05 08:24 [#02631227]
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thx belb! yeah I suspected the first minute was a bit too
odd and % of people would just nope out the track right
there. But it grew on me a lot while I was building the
song. It's sorta like drums laughing at you, or something
like that.

really appreciate the listen.


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2023-12-05 13:10 [#02631228]
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U speled ur sawngs rong
Thatz verry punk

Me likes a lot
Butt you already knew that would prol be my comment
Needs to be 8-10 minutes long mate


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2023-12-05 16:35 [#02631229]
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yeah it starts out a bit busy then gets realll good. nice
feelz


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2023-12-05 19:12 [#02631230]
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Duh brah.


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-12-05 21:35 [#02631234]
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thx TD and recycle!

thad I've never made an 8 minute track in more than 2
decades of makin beatz! longest I think is around 5 min, and
that overstayed its welcome i'm sure. my personal style just
a bit too jammy (I *like* jammy though) and too much forward
momentum, would just get tiresome.

need a slow, confident brooding thing like autechre's uviol.
Concise, effortless sounding 8 minute track. Man, confield
is so good.


 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2023-12-05 21:47 [#02631235]
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Love this. Maybe a bit messy here and there but that doesnt
bother me. Can you tell me something about your setup?


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-12-05 22:20 [#02631236]
Points: 4899 Status: Regular | Followup to -crazone: #02631235



thanks -crazone!

It's all digital baby. DAW is ableton 11-- not really using
the live mode stuff for this one but rather the full
sequence window to build everything.

Individual drum hits from ableton stock and NI's Battery 4
(never use anyone elses loops).lot of effects everywhere- a
few different reverb vsts, a bit of ableton's grain delay
here and there, formant filters, eqs and the like-- a lot of
it from Native Instrument's komplete.

Main synth is Massive X which I'm comfortable designing a
new sound from scratch on. I really love Massive X. There's
a bit of Absynth 5 for some of the pads.

But yeah it's just fairly meticulous sequencing and a lot of
digital knob tweaking in record. thx again!


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-12-05 22:24 [#02631237]
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I really do a lot of editing, redrawing lines and such.

I wish I could do that with this thread to add an H.

I looked up Glyped to see if it even meant anything.

"Glype Definition & Meaning

YourDictionary
Glype definition: (Ireland, slang) An annoying idiot."


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2023-12-05 23:57 [#02631243]
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Whateves


 

offline kei9 from Argentina on 2023-12-06 04:29 [#02631245]
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this got better and better as it unfolded, that ending was
awesome.


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-12-06 11:23 [#02631256]
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appreciate the listen kei, for this and the last few tracks
as well. glad you liked it!


 

offline kei9 from Argentina on 2023-12-06 19:32 [#02631282]
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always glad to listen to things id like to be able to do
myself

only idea for improvement is to have everything be as
functional to musicality as possible, I especially liked the
ending because of this, it was still contorted but in a much
more to the point way. not saying anything else does not
have its place, but if I were you I would switch the
proportions: make the more busy parts be a contrast to
longer passages of clearer stuff.

this is how afx makes his stuff really, he usually does not
rely on changes in harmony for development but instead goes
for busier weirder stuff in the middle before going back to
the main ideas again at the end collapse is a clear example
of this. its pretty clever as he achieves something with
rhythm most composers do by modulating.


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-12-06 22:39 [#02631310]
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Yeah I totally get what you mean, esp with afx's RDJ album.
The sections are like point/counterpoint in contrast (esp
Yellow Calx, peek... hell that whole album). It makes them
more like "real songs" rather than jams (tho he pretty jammy
in drukQs).

What that approach relies on tho, imo... is a pretty strong
melodic motif to drive the track, before he starts
squiggling it. I simply don't know how to write a strong
melody. Through practice, I've become pretty good at
rhythmic stuff, and pretty good at layering and building to
a harmony... but if you asked me to just write a nice melody
in isolation, I could not do it, not to my standards anyway.


So the real next step has been clear for awhile: just learn
the dang piano. I don't care about playing it technically
well; just want to learn HOW to compose melody properly by
playing other people's melodies. A peek under the hood.


 

offline kei9 from Argentina on 2023-12-07 01:57 [#02631322]
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Indeed, understanding stuff at the piano goes a long way,
and you dont need to really play it beyond tryng out chords
and scales and making that groove or be meaningful in some
sort of way, and then combine that with what you already
know.

even if richard can make awesome melodies you dont need to
be coltrane to make the melodies in most of RDJ album, or
even vordhosbn (had to look that up ahaha awesome track),
its all really simple melodies mostly made from outlining
triad chords mostly, but that is made to work with the
sequencing and drum programming in a very meaningful
(musical) way.


 


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