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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-12-23 11:48 [#02614984]
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2021-12-23 14:02 [#02614998]
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Fcuk ‘em
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2021-12-23 16:05 [#02615003]
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with a harness any chance of labour getting votes next time around? just having the first labour in 16 years in germany. hope itll turn out well in this messy times.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-12-23 16:14 [#02615004]
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Its really weird, it seems like they could set fire to a mound of babies and people would still vote for the fuckers
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-12-23 16:17 [#02615005]
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its so weird literally every time they get in they manage to dismantle the country economically/socially through malice and incompetence yet they constantly get voted back in, perhaps we have a really high percentage of sadomasochists
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-12-23 16:18 [#02615006]
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2021-12-23 17:54 [#02615007]
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gritty always wondered what the vocal samples in the track said
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2021-12-23 18:41 [#02615008]
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i get the same impression in germany at times. regular right voters have been quoted who really were unsure if they could vote their party because of the scrappy candidate, but eventually chose to vote their party in spite of it. and the reason is simple:
most right voters believe to gain more money. and a lot them actually do, so its a wrap even if the candidates are unbelivable failures.
for some reason the biggest selling media loves to discredit social politics while at the same time making a living on selling social drama. i always feel like they are one of the reasons the rich percent of the country always wins most.
this year the eco party had a contender/chancellor candidate for the first time with good looking election forecasts until a couple of media campaigns discredited her big time. in a documentary by the federal tv channel journalists analyzed the downfall and systematic discreditation of the candidate and the green party by rtv (russian tv germany). they brought more than thousand news stories within a month or so discrediting the green party candidate, while the other parties reached a hundred stories at most. this kind of bs has been shared to death.
the next election will be tossed by social media and internet bs. made up hate/misinformation nonsense always seems to spread faster than an inconvenient truth.
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DADONCK
from here on 2021-12-23 18:50 [#02615009]
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2021-12-23 22:05 [#02615018]
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did she study mathematics to become a tv bimbo? or what is this about?
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-12-24 04:17 [#02615020]
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Shes unhinged so she would probably great in bed
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-12-24 04:18 [#02615021]
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Yeah i suppose it isn't surprising how much people get all their information from one sources, i.e. tv what worries me is when the internet generations are the dominant voting block, probably already is, we will start to see some really crazy political candidates i reckon, if we haven't already
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-12-26 01:48 [#02615062]
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tiktok gen-z lot already have a reputation as being basically a bunch of art school commies dialled to 11, so that should be interesting
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-12-26 01:51 [#02615063]
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actually i think "art school commies" is probably misleading... and far too generous
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-12-26 01:53 [#02615064]
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democracy is not a particulary good idea, and it will fucking sink us.
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-12-26 01:58 [#02615065]
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I mean 'democracy' in it's current zombie state, "fortified elections" n' all...
its just totally gamed.. doesnt exist, not sure whether it ever did
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-12-26 21:52 [#02615125]
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yeah thats true i suppose an analogy would be two rectums going to the same anus, if I wanted to be totally cynical, A binary choice once every 4 or 5 years seems hardly worth it
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2021-12-26 22:06 [#02615127]
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxzlCO2L6SA
anti-corbyn protest
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2021-12-26 22:07 [#02615128]
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGWAPAhJUbk
Dominic Raab: 'Labour extremists use fanaticism against the Js
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2021-12-26 22:08 [#02615129]
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https://www.thejc.com/lets-talk/all/david-camerons-premiers hip-was-a-golden-era-for-britains-jews-1.60440
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-12-26 22:16 [#02615130]
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i know Corbyn was for Palestine rights, but I can't imagine someone who was into making jam and taking photographs of drain covers as a hobby being virulently anti-Semitic. In fact it got to such a state of affair you can get called anti-Semitic on social media simple by pointing out he probably isn't anti-Semitic
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2021-12-26 22:19 [#02615131]
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the Tories have the Messiah in their party
the main goal and direction of the government under Cameron was to support Halacha
under Boris there are still lots of people who support Halacha but there was some loss of influence because of the way the brexit vote went.
i dont think boris or priti patel have ever read the old testament, otherwise she would support bringing in refugees not stopping them coming in. love the stranger and all that. they are like Trump, they love Jews, but they won't last long unless they support or are in congruence with Halacha.
God is definitely real and Halacha can be a dangerous thing to play with. It's worse than playing with fire. never ask to be judged in Jewish law, it's what I did, then soon later I started hearing the voice of messiah in my mind saying he will torture me and my whole family
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2021-12-26 22:21 [#02615132]
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https://www.thejc.com/lets-talk/all/corbyn-must-lose-for-ou r-sake-1.437827
https://www.thejc.com/comment/columnists/daniel-finkelstein -hobson-s-choice-on-corbyn-and-antisemitism-1.484925
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2021-12-26 22:48 [#02615136]
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Dina d'malchuta dina ("the law of the king is law"): an additional aspect of halakha, being the principle recognizing non-Jewish laws and non-Jewish legal jurisdiction as binding on Jewish citizens, provided that they are not contrary to a law in Judaism. This principle applies primarily in areas of commercial, civil and criminal law.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-12-26 23:20 [#02615140]
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dunno about that, but you seem to be into your politics much more than I am. All I can say about Corbyn from a human level is that he seemed a decent guy, if I had to go by my gut feeling, but I very well might be wrong
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2021-12-26 23:33 [#02615142]
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Tories: give Israel money, weapons, food, charity, ways to implement their way of walking and way of living into the general culture of the uk. during the british empire Jews had to fight for their rights, they still have to fight for their rights today, just have more influence today than before.
Labour under Corbyn: stop giving Israel money, weapons, food, charity, ways of walking and way of living into the general culture of the uk.
even if you dont believe the crazier side of what i say, if you read what daniel finkelstein says about corbyn you will understand why they destroyed corbyn poltiically.
also i see corbyn's brother piers believes covid is a scam to take our liberties away. well our liberties have been taken away in the name of covid. the old me would have sided with piers, but nowadays i think differently. anti-semitism is a big mistake.
the laws specifically say they can appoint a king, the texts and writings that they follow say there will be a king. they are waiting for a king to come. there will definitely be some sort of king. and some kind of anti-king alliance of evil maybe led by putin will form.
the laws also say they will gather all of their believers into the land of israel. that means lots of anti-semitism taking place around the world.
one thing about daniel finkelstein is both his parents were imprisoned during wwii. he's not going to let his family, friends, and people end up like that. anyone who gets in israel's way will be in big trouble.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-12-27 00:18 [#02615143]
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Fuck the Tories mate
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2021-12-27 00:20 [#02615144]
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What. i, fear most´ is; a so-ciety being anti-semantic.<----
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-12-27 00:25 [#02615145]
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it is in many ways!
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-12-27 00:29 [#02615146]
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I respect Umbro, he is obvious a well read smart dude I think we are coming from diametrically opposed positions on the issue
I.e. Umbro sees the state of Israel as inevitable consequence of a Messianic Prophecy that he believes in, and thus anything they do is de facto the action of God and cannot be questioned, or that my impression.
Where I'm more like I have no problem of the state of Israel existing I just wish they wouldn't brutalise the Palestinians, and kill kids with white phosphorus and cluster bombs
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-12-27 00:32 [#02615147]
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but anyway this really is diverging from my initial post, my hatred of the Tories shouldn't be taken as me condoning labour or more specifically Corbyn, its just a general statement of their internal/state policies. Truth be told I don't really like talking about the middle east or Israel as its opening a massive barrel of worms.
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2021-12-27 19:48 [#02615173]
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its hard to be right on this particular barrel. and i dont overthink foreign politics of particular politicians when all we have as an option is to vote for a party and its general angle. we actually convinced the southern german friend of my mother how social and green politics are the right thing to diminish poverty, increase our wealth and budget and help save the climate and refugees as opposed to the conservative party. eventually it all culminated in him doing a 90° turn and an argue because the far left party advocated leaving the nato. not that it would ever come to germany leaving the nato. its a basic principle he was hung up then. its like the old argument that without the conservatives and u.s. nukes in germany we would all be dead or live in a communist dictatorship.
no progress made in 50 years. thank you Bild Zeitung.
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2021-12-27 19:50 [#02615174]
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no harm in stating your positions. you both did it without trying to strangle each other.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-12-27 19:59 [#02615175]
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Yeah its not something worth getting upset about with other people as its all very hypothetical. The one thing I can state in a definitive way is that if your view point is predicated on kids being killed then its on very tenuous ground, well thats my view anyway! no matter what the end goal is
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