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offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-10-04 17:06 [#02612427]
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LAZY_TITLE

I was thinking about this last night, not that I'm
stridently anticapitalist or anything, but how everything is
taken now and commodified and made a shit meaningless
version of.

Its like that bit in Nathan Barley, "oblivious to the
paradox of their uniform individuality"



 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-10-04 17:07 [#02612428]
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gentrification of liverpool


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-10-04 17:11 [#02612429]
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LAZY_TITLE Largest brick warehouse in the world being
turned into penthouses


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2021-10-04 17:34 [#02612430]
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Paradox, or contradiction, is at the heart of capitalism.

You might think that the purpose of housing is to house
people. But no! The purpose of housing is to make a return
on value for investors.

The same thing goes for cities and gentrification. The goal
is not to create livable cities but to create monetary
value.

This is the contradiction between the use form and the value
form. For example if you own a bread factory you're not
baking a thousand loaves to eat, you're baking them to sell.
And you are very careful not to bake too many loaves for the
effective demand (the demand that has money behind it) even
if that still leaves people hungry.

Same goes for housing. And you're better off as a real
estate investor building a block of expensive condos then
getting city hall to clear out the neighbourhood of the riff
raff who can't afford them.


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-10-04 17:38 [#02612431]
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yeah its like a massive pyramid scheme. They waited for
decades until the city was almost a husk before they started
redeveloping it and buying up more land. Now they are
calling the area where I live "The South Bank" in PR related
bollocks


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-10-04 17:44 [#02612432]
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Castle street in Liverpool is full of all these yuppies al
fresco dining out under parasols in the summer now, its
fucking bizarre to see


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2021-10-04 18:39 [#02612433]
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i haven't been into central manchester in ages but the
northern quarter was heavily yuppified last time i was
there, all artisan sandwich bars and "urban renewal". there
was still the sleaze of tib street holding its own tho


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-10-04 18:55 [#02612434]
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I think What offends my sensibilities the most, is all this
colourful graffiti/murals they put up that appeals to young
people but signifies nowt


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-10-04 18:59 [#02612435]
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Actually i have to be honest i haven't really noticed it
really until i thought about it last night, its such a
mundane thing you don't notice it, but thats whats so
insidious about it, im sure it was dreamt up by a group of
corporate psychologists or something


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-10-04 19:21 [#02612436]
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Arsewashing


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-10-04 19:22 [#02612437]
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#Arsewashing


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2021-10-04 19:27 [#02612438]
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yeah, graf is fully co-opted for capital nowadays. if the
rich can squeeze another few quid out of their upwardly
mobile "clients" with some non-threateningly edgy WokeArtâ„¢
they'll jump at the chance


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-10-04 20:22 [#02612439]
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it assimilates everything doesn't it, I think its why I
think Banksy is shit although he wasn't the first, so bloody
cynical


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-10-04 20:24 [#02612440]
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I think the ultimate symbol of it is those Che Guevara
T-shirts


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2021-10-04 20:42 [#02612442]
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haha god it shames me but i had one as a teenager... and
worse than that, i used to explain to people that i thought
it was funny a revolutionary had been turned into a brand to
sell t-shirts, oh the irony etc. i was, in short, a cunt


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2021-10-04 20:44 [#02612443]
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(i probably still am)


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2021-10-04 20:48 [#02612445]
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You might think you're a cunt but you're no Grimes reading
Marx dressed like roadkill while espousing "nice"
capitalism.


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-10-04 20:55 [#02612446]
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I saw that, i think that probably subconsciously made this
thread


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-10-04 20:56 [#02612447]
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It's totally acceptable as a teenager as you take things on
face value when your that age


 


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