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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-10-04 17:06 [#02612427]
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I was thinking about this last night, not that I'm stridently anticapitalist or anything, but how everything is taken now and commodified and made a shit meaningless version of.
Its like that bit in Nathan Barley, "oblivious to the paradox of their uniform individuality"
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-10-04 17:07 [#02612428]
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gentrification of liverpool
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-10-04 17:11 [#02612429]
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LAZY_TITLE Largest brick warehouse in the world being turned into penthouses
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2021-10-04 17:34 [#02612430]
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Paradox, or contradiction, is at the heart of capitalism.
You might think that the purpose of housing is to house people. But no! The purpose of housing is to make a return on value for investors.
The same thing goes for cities and gentrification. The goal is not to create livable cities but to create monetary value.
This is the contradiction between the use form and the value form. For example if you own a bread factory you're not baking a thousand loaves to eat, you're baking them to sell. And you are very careful not to bake too many loaves for the effective demand (the demand that has money behind it) even if that still leaves people hungry.
Same goes for housing. And you're better off as a real estate investor building a block of expensive condos then getting city hall to clear out the neighbourhood of the riff raff who can't afford them.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-10-04 17:38 [#02612431]
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yeah its like a massive pyramid scheme. They waited for decades until the city was almost a husk before they started redeveloping it and buying up more land. Now they are calling the area where I live "The South Bank" in PR related bollocks
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-10-04 17:44 [#02612432]
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Castle street in Liverpool is full of all these yuppies al fresco dining out under parasols in the summer now, its fucking bizarre to see
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2021-10-04 18:39 [#02612433]
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i haven't been into central manchester in ages but the northern quarter was heavily yuppified last time i was there, all artisan sandwich bars and "urban renewal". there was still the sleaze of tib street holding its own tho
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-10-04 18:55 [#02612434]
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I think What offends my sensibilities the most, is all this colourful graffiti/murals they put up that appeals to young people but signifies nowt
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-10-04 18:59 [#02612435]
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Actually i have to be honest i haven't really noticed it really until i thought about it last night, its such a mundane thing you don't notice it, but thats whats so insidious about it, im sure it was dreamt up by a group of corporate psychologists or something
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-10-04 19:21 [#02612436]
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Arsewashing
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-10-04 19:22 [#02612437]
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#Arsewashing
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2021-10-04 19:27 [#02612438]
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yeah, graf is fully co-opted for capital nowadays. if the rich can squeeze another few quid out of their upwardly mobile "clients" with some non-threateningly edgy WokeArtâ„¢ they'll jump at the chance
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-10-04 20:22 [#02612439]
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it assimilates everything doesn't it, I think its why I think Banksy is shit although he wasn't the first, so bloody cynical
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-10-04 20:24 [#02612440]
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I think the ultimate symbol of it is those Che Guevara T-shirts
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2021-10-04 20:42 [#02612442]
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haha god it shames me but i had one as a teenager... and worse than that, i used to explain to people that i thought it was funny a revolutionary had been turned into a brand to sell t-shirts, oh the irony etc. i was, in short, a cunt
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2021-10-04 20:44 [#02612443]
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(i probably still am)
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2021-10-04 20:48 [#02612445]
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You might think you're a cunt but you're no Grimes reading Marx dressed like roadkill while espousing "nice" capitalism.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-10-04 20:55 [#02612446]
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I saw that, i think that probably subconsciously made this thread
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-10-04 20:56 [#02612447]
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It's totally acceptable as a teenager as you take things on face value when your that age
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