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offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-05-23 00:26 [#02608710]
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the four that have come out recently are such
nothingburgers it hurts
GIMBAL, FLIR1, GOFAST, ...and the other one i can't remember
the name of rn
GIMBAL = the clue is in the name
And that one of the triangular bokeh seems like some cunt is
getting scammed

what's supposed to be getting said in June?
It was fucking trending on twitter yesterday, wtf,
what is going on


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-05-23 00:27 [#02608711]
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hate to say it but Mick West got shit covered


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-05-23 00:32 [#02608712]
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LAZY_TITLE Alex Dietrich is so hot


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-05-23 00:36 [#02608713]
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she looks like a gemini


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-05-23 00:50 [#02608714]
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Mick West has to put up with alot of shit. I love watching
the vids but there is nothing totally compelling yet. Most
interesting thing is the Nimitz thing cos of the multiple
sightings via infrared and Radar.

LAZY_TITLE


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-05-23 00:53 [#02608715]
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Mick West comes up with a plausible explanation for all the
vids I reckon, although I reckon the Nimitz one has more to
it that just the vid. Its probably some US military disinfo
campaign, or mis identification of some existing tech. there
is of course the small chance its ET, but they need to show
us some solid irrefutable proof if that's the case, and not
the same fuzzy crap that could be anything. I desperately
want it to be real btw


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2021-05-23 19:47 [#02608716]
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call out for the mothership appropiately...
and you will be heard!
LAZY_TITLE


 

offline DADONCK from here on 2021-05-23 21:59 [#02608717]
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i think its china
fauci, too


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-05-24 01:45 [#02608718]
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LAZY_TITLE

love this segment, look how cool/freaky these aliens are


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-05-28 22:33 [#02608758]
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changing my mind on this on like a daily basis, which is
genuinely fun
whilst i have been doing that, the book 'Cosmic Trigger III'
has come up completely by chance from 3 different
people/places... went to get my copy from storage and it
aint there. misplaced it

Chyna angle: LAZY_TITLE


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-05-28 22:36 [#02608759]
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Flir1/nimitz is the only one i think has any credibility,
out of that lot


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-05-28 22:38 [#02608760]
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also ive become totally addicted to metabunk in about a
week...love it..! just as much as i love the conspiracy
forums, different vibe though obv


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-05-29 04:01 [#02608770]
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I just typed a massive reply and the site borked it


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-05-29 04:02 [#02608771]
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Mick West reminds me of my brother alot, really into formal
logic and the rigors of science and maths being able to
explain everything. I think I'm mostly on that side of the
fence myself but if I'm self critical for a minute I think
it can leave a bit of a blind spot for things that are out
of scope of the traditional mode of thinking.


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-05-29 04:06 [#02608772]
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The maths and reasoning Mick does is really fucking
impressive, he has debunked alot of shit that I foolishly
entertained myself and leaves you in little doubt about what
the answer is. With the Nimitz incident though there is
quite a few separate witnesses who seem like they have
genuinely experienced something totally bizarre. I wasn't
totally convinced by his parallax balloon theory on the go
fast vid. I mean do balloons get that far out at sea. I
suppose they must do, if thats the case why the genuine
surprise from the pilots


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-05-29 04:09 [#02608773]
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I've personally thought for years that these things are
possibly Von Neumann probes, or something that is totally
inexplicable and currently beyond comprehension. Wouldn't
surprise me at all, with the age and size of the universe
that they are probes though. I read theoretically somewhere
a certain sized/advanced civilization could explore most the
galaxy in only a few millions years


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-05-29 04:28 [#02608774]
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I don't trust the US military though, in all likelihood its
probably a psy-op to cover up the fact they have new drones
or some sort of multi band spoofing technology


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-05-30 17:30 [#02608811]
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LAZY_TITLE


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2021-05-30 21:29 [#02608818]
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"I read theoretically somewhere
a certain sized/advanced civilization could explore most of
the galaxy in only a few millions years"

had to look that up and without being an expert on this
i strongly agree.
across the galaxy is about 100.000 ly.
just by the physical laws we know of something like a probe
could be able to overcome that distance with acceleration
getting close to light speed and deceleration to check out
the locals.
better clean up this mess if we´re expecting company.


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-05-30 22:48 [#02608827]
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from what i've been picking up off metabunk they reckon that
there is like literally 1 in a billion chance that our ideas
of physics are wrong, cuz they've been tested so much...
they are incomplete, but not wrong. I guess they think that
the places where understanding is incomplete don't leave any
possibility for 'this' kind of thing to happen, either.
But frankly, every time in human history has been the same.

you don't know what you don't know, until you do.

>> better clean up this mess if we´re expecting company.
i thought you were talking about this thread for a second,
like we were having ladies over 4 the nite,lol

Hyperflake: that guy is on the Phenomenon film,ithink


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-05-30 23:33 [#02608832]
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hah,just realised, the person i know with the biggest
collection of UFO/weird books apart from me has a phd in
astrophysics and is female


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-05-31 00:03 [#02608833]
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yeah and if its self duplicating it can spread like a
bacteria in a petri dish hehe, im sure thats easier said
that done though


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-05-31 00:04 [#02608834]
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Yeah i mean we don't know what mediates gravity, we dont
know what makes up something like 75% of the universe mass
for starters


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-05-31 00:05 [#02608836]
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We only found out what galaxies are last century. The
standard model of particle physics is incomplete. We dont
understand many many many things, so i always think there is
a large gap of uncertainty in what can and cant be
accomplished by theoretical Alien civilizations


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-06-24 19:28 [#02609446]
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interesting read:
LAZY_TITLE

i watched 'Mirage Men' the other day too, which is a good
documentary.


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-06-24 21:04 [#02609452]
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Hyperflake: it would be a much more ridiculous suggestion to
think that the entirety of our knowledge is complete and
accurate, or, that it won't be completely upended at some
point in the future. Every point in history has been the
same "we know everything, there is only small incremental
progress to be made".. You actually have to think that in
order to not get totally depressed and not do any
science/model building at all.


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-06-24 21:07 [#02609453]
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You cannae see the jumps b4 u do


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-06-24 21:11 [#02609455]
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Yeah I always think that when I see physicist say, blah blah
its impossible, we have only know about the laws of
classical physics for a couple of hundred years, on a cosmic
timescale that doesn't even register! imagine the shit we
don't know!

I don't think its hubris, just a lack of imagination that
the say stuff like the speed of light can never be
circumvented.

I think about hundred years ago someone said we will never
be able to fly a plane


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-06-24 21:16 [#02609456]
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Yeah I noticed that guy with the goatee, you know they one
who is all over the media at the moment saying some weird
esoteric stuff that made me think perhaps he was on drugs


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-06-24 21:18 [#02609457]
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LAZY_TITLE

how to attract UFOS with a little goatee beard


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-06-24 21:28 [#02609461]
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Luis Elizondo..? (sp) he's been on TONNES of podcasts,
totally doing the rounds... (And in Mirage Men, there's a
bit where they basically describe the Blink 182 guy)
it is brilliant watching this play out in real time though,
totally unprecedented, whatever it may be.


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-06-24 21:28 [#02609462]
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Fuckin +1 Amon Duul yesh


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-06-24 21:31 [#02609463]
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yeah, i think for the most part he is trying to be impartial
as possible, but sometimes strays into a sort of new age
sounding explanation of things.

Its hard for me to decipher if this is some sort of Pentagon
psyop or if its real. Mick West seems to be good at
debunking it, but I said on twitter 'Mick West could be
wrong of course'

I was playing the devils advocate to some other person and
Mick himself replied something like "show me where im wrong"
and I thought that was a bit weird/arrogant, like you cant
be wrong yourself?


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-06-24 21:33 [#02609464]
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I think he misunderstood what I meant, I'd absolutely love
it to be real though, something totally inexplicable
observing us like ants, would make life well more
interesting


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-06-24 22:00 [#02609465]
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ha you are on there? I did wonder, i will try and spot you
[dont tell me]
One thing to remember is that Mick West's background is game
physics - very simple simultations of things (although you
can adjust the constants and then things go weird- ha that
IS an interesting tangent). Mick also has engineers mindset,
which is essential if you are an engineer,hah.

Only thing that actually keeps me 'sane' or at least
agnostic about the whole thing is thinking back to Robert
Anton Wilson type stuff... or at least stuff that attempts
to confuse you so much that the only thing you can actually
do is make up your own mind.


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-06-24 22:17 [#02609466]
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just twitter, metabunk is full of joykills hehe


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-06-24 22:17 [#02609467]
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Yeah it feels like that, it feels like a total headfuck like
a mix of lies and truth


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-06-24 22:24 [#02609468]
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I think one thing it does is it casts alot of doubt about
what is flying around in the atmosphere, that can be a great
cover for flying something like a nuclear powered drone
around in enemy territory


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-06-24 22:24 [#02609469]
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check this


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-06-24 22:25 [#02609470]
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Yeah thats the issue I have with Mick, my brother is exactly
the same way, something that is out of bounds of their own
mental framework cannot compute, like Dr Spock


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-06-24 22:48 [#02609471]
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I think I can be a bit like that myself sometimes but I have
like a 10% part of my brain that can entertain stuff like
this


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-06-30 19:09 [#02609589]
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i think it must actually be some lizard brain shit that make
us think this way.. like probably what social media is gamed
to exploit, albeit not yet optimally..
only thing i know is, when i've been tripping off my gourd,
the only type of thinking that has actually saved from doing
unfortunate shit is stuff like Mick West.... HOWEVER the
only stuff that makes it interesting and worth doing in the
first place is a totally different type of thinking ... :)


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-06-30 19:11 [#02609590]
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(there are clearly different types of thought, of thinking,
but nothing close to this is ever taught in schools... not
even private ones.)


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-07-06 12:12 [#02609661]
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LAZY_TITLE


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-07-11 00:23 [#02609775]
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im glad the interns at at least some of these "local"
news-sites are having some fun... wondering how that would
pan out as a Substack article lol
got a mint copy of this banger recently:
LAZY_TITLE


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-07-11 00:31 [#02609776]
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related docu: LAZY_TITLE


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-07-11 00:37 [#02609777]
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i think its Anthony Head doing the narration,not doing very
good at containing his incredulity


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-07-11 00:43 [#02609778]
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The guy from the Nescafé advert? always come across a bit
smug him!


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-07-11 00:45 [#02609779]
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wicked will have a watch, its really freaky when people
describe lights that split up into constituent parts.
reminds me of the rendelsham forests UFO, where they saw
winking lights split apart and fire beams at the ground. To
my mind if anything it makes the events more likely cos it
sounds like some incomprehensible thing, inexplicable Alien
technology


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-07-11 00:54 [#02609780]
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I reckon those ones are even more advanced than the aliens
in the saucers, the lights i reckon are some sort of
trans-dimensional entities or something incredibly far in
advanced, probably some form of pure energy or actualised
information, something incomprehensible, the other aliens
don't even know what they are hehe


 


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