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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-05-23 00:26 [#02608710]
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the four that have come out recently are such nothingburgers it hurts
GIMBAL, FLIR1, GOFAST, ...and the other one i can't remember the name of rn
GIMBAL = the clue is in the name And that one of the triangular bokeh seems like some cunt is getting scammed
what's supposed to be getting said in June? It was fucking trending on twitter yesterday, wtf, what is going on
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-05-23 00:27 [#02608711]
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hate to say it but Mick West got shit covered
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-05-23 00:32 [#02608712]
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LAZY_TITLE Alex Dietrich is so hot
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-05-23 00:36 [#02608713]
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she looks like a gemini
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-05-23 00:50 [#02608714]
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Mick West has to put up with alot of shit. I love watching the vids but there is nothing totally compelling yet. Most interesting thing is the Nimitz thing cos of the multiple sightings via infrared and Radar.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-05-23 00:53 [#02608715]
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Mick West comes up with a plausible explanation for all the vids I reckon, although I reckon the Nimitz one has more to it that just the vid. Its probably some US military disinfo campaign, or mis identification of some existing tech. there is of course the small chance its ET, but they need to show us some solid irrefutable proof if that's the case, and not the same fuzzy crap that could be anything. I desperately want it to be real btw
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2021-05-23 19:47 [#02608716]
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call out for the mothership appropiately... and you will be heard! LAZY_TITLE
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DADONCK
from here on 2021-05-23 21:59 [#02608717]
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i think its china fauci, too
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-05-24 01:45 [#02608718]
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love this segment, look how cool/freaky these aliens are
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-05-28 22:33 [#02608758]
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changing my mind on this on like a daily basis, which is genuinely fun
whilst i have been doing that, the book 'Cosmic Trigger III' has come up completely by chance from 3 different people/places... went to get my copy from storage and it aint there. misplaced it
Chyna angle: LAZY_TITLE
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-05-28 22:36 [#02608759]
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Flir1/nimitz is the only one i think has any credibility, out of that lot
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-05-28 22:38 [#02608760]
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also ive become totally addicted to metabunk in about a week...love it..! just as much as i love the conspiracy forums, different vibe though obv
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-05-29 04:01 [#02608770]
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I just typed a massive reply and the site borked it
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-05-29 04:02 [#02608771]
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Mick West reminds me of my brother alot, really into formal logic and the rigors of science and maths being able to explain everything. I think I'm mostly on that side of the fence myself but if I'm self critical for a minute I think it can leave a bit of a blind spot for things that are out of scope of the traditional mode of thinking.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-05-29 04:06 [#02608772]
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The maths and reasoning Mick does is really fucking impressive, he has debunked alot of shit that I foolishly entertained myself and leaves you in little doubt about what the answer is. With the Nimitz incident though there is quite a few separate witnesses who seem like they have genuinely experienced something totally bizarre. I wasn't totally convinced by his parallax balloon theory on the go fast vid. I mean do balloons get that far out at sea. I suppose they must do, if thats the case why the genuine surprise from the pilots
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-05-29 04:09 [#02608773]
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I've personally thought for years that these things are possibly Von Neumann probes, or something that is totally inexplicable and currently beyond comprehension. Wouldn't surprise me at all, with the age and size of the universe that they are probes though. I read theoretically somewhere a certain sized/advanced civilization could explore most the galaxy in only a few millions years
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-05-29 04:28 [#02608774]
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I don't trust the US military though, in all likelihood its probably a psy-op to cover up the fact they have new drones or some sort of multi band spoofing technology
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-05-30 17:30 [#02608811]
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2021-05-30 21:29 [#02608818]
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"I read theoretically somewhere a certain sized/advanced civilization could explore most of the galaxy in only a few millions years"
had to look that up and without being an expert on this i strongly agree. across the galaxy is about 100.000 ly. just by the physical laws we know of something like a probe could be able to overcome that distance with acceleration getting close to light speed and deceleration to check out the locals.
better clean up this mess if we´re expecting company.
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-05-30 22:48 [#02608827]
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from what i've been picking up off metabunk they reckon that there is like literally 1 in a billion chance that our ideas of physics are wrong, cuz they've been tested so much... they are incomplete, but not wrong. I guess they think that the places where understanding is incomplete don't leave any possibility for 'this' kind of thing to happen, either.
But frankly, every time in human history has been the same.
you don't know what you don't know, until you do.
>> better clean up this mess if we´re expecting company. i thought you were talking about this thread for a second, like we were having ladies over 4 the nite,lol
Hyperflake: that guy is on the Phenomenon film,ithink
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-05-30 23:33 [#02608832]
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hah,just realised, the person i know with the biggest collection of UFO/weird books apart from me has a phd in astrophysics and is female
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-05-31 00:03 [#02608833]
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yeah and if its self duplicating it can spread like a bacteria in a petri dish hehe, im sure thats easier said that done though
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-05-31 00:04 [#02608834]
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Yeah i mean we don't know what mediates gravity, we dont know what makes up something like 75% of the universe mass for starters
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-05-31 00:05 [#02608836]
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We only found out what galaxies are last century. The standard model of particle physics is incomplete. We dont understand many many many things, so i always think there is a large gap of uncertainty in what can and cant be accomplished by theoretical Alien civilizations
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-06-24 19:28 [#02609446]
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interesting read: LAZY_TITLE
i watched 'Mirage Men' the other day too, which is a good documentary.
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-06-24 21:04 [#02609452]
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Hyperflake: it would be a much more ridiculous suggestion to think that the entirety of our knowledge is complete and accurate, or, that it won't be completely upended at some point in the future. Every point in history has been the same "we know everything, there is only small incremental progress to be made".. You actually have to think that in order to not get totally depressed and not do any science/model building at all.
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-06-24 21:07 [#02609453]
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You cannae see the jumps b4 u do
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-06-24 21:11 [#02609455]
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Yeah I always think that when I see physicist say, blah blah its impossible, we have only know about the laws of classical physics for a couple of hundred years, on a cosmic timescale that doesn't even register! imagine the shit we don't know!
I don't think its hubris, just a lack of imagination that the say stuff like the speed of light can never be circumvented.
I think about hundred years ago someone said we will never be able to fly a plane
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-06-24 21:16 [#02609456]
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Yeah I noticed that guy with the goatee, you know they one who is all over the media at the moment saying some weird esoteric stuff that made me think perhaps he was on drugs
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-06-24 21:18 [#02609457]
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how to attract UFOS with a little goatee beard
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-06-24 21:28 [#02609461]
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Luis Elizondo..? (sp) he's been on TONNES of podcasts, totally doing the rounds... (And in Mirage Men, there's a bit where they basically describe the Blink 182 guy)
it is brilliant watching this play out in real time though, totally unprecedented, whatever it may be.
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-06-24 21:28 [#02609462]
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Fuckin +1 Amon Duul yesh
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-06-24 21:31 [#02609463]
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yeah, i think for the most part he is trying to be impartial as possible, but sometimes strays into a sort of new age sounding explanation of things.
Its hard for me to decipher if this is some sort of Pentagon psyop or if its real. Mick West seems to be good at debunking it, but I said on twitter 'Mick West could be wrong of course'
I was playing the devils advocate to some other person and Mick himself replied something like "show me where im wrong" and I thought that was a bit weird/arrogant, like you cant be wrong yourself?
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-06-24 21:33 [#02609464]
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I think he misunderstood what I meant, I'd absolutely love it to be real though, something totally inexplicable observing us like ants, would make life well more interesting
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-06-24 22:00 [#02609465]
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ha you are on there? I did wonder, i will try and spot you [dont tell me]
One thing to remember is that Mick West's background is game physics - very simple simultations of things (although you can adjust the constants and then things go weird- ha that IS an interesting tangent). Mick also has engineers mindset, which is essential if you are an engineer,hah.
Only thing that actually keeps me 'sane' or at least agnostic about the whole thing is thinking back to Robert Anton Wilson type stuff... or at least stuff that attempts to confuse you so much that the only thing you can actually do is make up your own mind.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-06-24 22:17 [#02609466]
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just twitter, metabunk is full of joykills hehe
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-06-24 22:17 [#02609467]
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Yeah it feels like that, it feels like a total headfuck like a mix of lies and truth
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-06-24 22:24 [#02609468]
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I think one thing it does is it casts alot of doubt about what is flying around in the atmosphere, that can be a great cover for flying something like a nuclear powered drone around in enemy territory
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-06-24 22:24 [#02609469]
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check this
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-06-24 22:25 [#02609470]
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Yeah thats the issue I have with Mick, my brother is exactly the same way, something that is out of bounds of their own mental framework cannot compute, like Dr Spock
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-06-24 22:48 [#02609471]
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I think I can be a bit like that myself sometimes but I have like a 10% part of my brain that can entertain stuff like this
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-06-30 19:09 [#02609589]
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i think it must actually be some lizard brain shit that make us think this way.. like probably what social media is gamed to exploit, albeit not yet optimally..
only thing i know is, when i've been tripping off my gourd, the only type of thinking that has actually saved from doing unfortunate shit is stuff like Mick West.... HOWEVER the only stuff that makes it interesting and worth doing in the first place is a totally different type of thinking ... :)
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-06-30 19:11 [#02609590]
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(there are clearly different types of thought, of thinking, but nothing close to this is ever taught in schools... not even private ones.)
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-07-06 12:12 [#02609661]
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-07-11 00:23 [#02609775]
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im glad the interns at at least some of these "local" news-sites are having some fun... wondering how that would pan out as a Substack article lol
got a mint copy of this banger recently: LAZY_TITLE
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-07-11 00:31 [#02609776]
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related docu: LAZY_TITLE
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-07-11 00:37 [#02609777]
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i think its Anthony Head doing the narration,not doing very good at containing his incredulity
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-07-11 00:43 [#02609778]
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The guy from the Nescafé advert? always come across a bit smug him!
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-07-11 00:45 [#02609779]
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wicked will have a watch, its really freaky when people describe lights that split up into constituent parts. reminds me of the rendelsham forests UFO, where they saw winking lights split apart and fire beams at the ground. To my mind if anything it makes the events more likely cos it sounds like some incomprehensible thing, inexplicable Alien technology
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-07-11 00:54 [#02609780]
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I reckon those ones are even more advanced than the aliens in the saucers, the lights i reckon are some sort of trans-dimensional entities or something incredibly far in advanced, probably some form of pure energy or actualised information, something incomprehensible, the other aliens don't even know what they are hehe
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