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Robert Fisk dead
 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2020-11-02 21:48 [#02606683]
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so robert fisk has died and i was wondering how u guys felt
about that


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2020-11-02 22:52 [#02606684]
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RIP old journalist man

I read something to the effect that he destroyed his career
by siding with the palestinians.


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-11-03 01:21 [#02606685]
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I enjoyed his work in Al Shakira or Al Qaeda or whatever it
was called. You know, the good web page.


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-11-03 12:12 [#02606687]
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AMPI MAX how do you feel about BLUE LABOUR


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2020-11-04 16:19 [#02606696]
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i dont know ive never thought about it

robert fisk died and there were some people here that loved
his work. but maybe hes not as famous as i thought. a lot of
people havnt really given him as much attention over the
last 10 years


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2020-11-04 16:21 [#02606697]
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no everyone loves him for his palestine thing. he destroyed
his career writing articles for the assad regime


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2020-11-04 17:32 [#02606698]
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hey ampi, why dont u give discord a try


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-11-04 20:08 [#02606699]
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AMPI MAX is it true you only cum twice a year and it looks
like a tablespoon of ricotta cheese with lashings of ketchup


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2020-11-04 20:18 [#02606700]
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i heard it was more like guacamole


 

offline Roger Wilco from Mo's Beans on 2020-11-05 07:38 [#02606706]
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Didn't he write for the Independent, which was never really
a newspaper


 

offline larn from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2020-11-05 20:31 [#02606708]
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“You cannot get near the truth without being there”


 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2020-11-06 06:48 [#02606713]
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not as dead as this place


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2020-11-06 09:26 [#02606717]
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lol


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2020-11-06 10:22 [#02606718]
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lol blue labour sounds like literal historic fascism???


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-11-06 12:53 [#02606719]
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how so


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2020-11-06 15:24 [#02606722]
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third way, socially conservative, corporatist, "family,
faith and flag"?


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-11-06 17:06 [#02606723]
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real fascism only pays lip service to workers but attacks
trade unions, socialists and workers collectives on behalf
of capital though


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-11-06 17:08 [#02606724]
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I guess our only real options are woke neoliberalism, and
benighted fascism with its awful working-class penchant for
the N word and complete disregard for diversity in the
boardroom


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2020-11-06 21:24 [#02606725]
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yes the working class is known for being entirely white and
racist


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2020-11-06 21:28 [#02606726]
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like jesus man what's wrong with you, you've got to stop
listening to those podcasts or whatever it is


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-11-07 02:57 [#02606727]
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no my point is that's a false dichotomy, that people looking
out for their perceived self interest is not necessarily
fascist or racist


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2020-11-07 03:15 [#02606728]
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debatable, but when your focus is anti-immigration and
family faith and flag i find it rather explicit


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-11-07 15:31 [#02606729]
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again I don't think it's fascism proper unless the interest
of workers is a veneer and it's actually the interest of
capital being represented

since at least the 19th century oligarchy has leveraged
majority identity in the defense of wealth, but we're
supposed to clutch our pearls when majority identity is
leveraged in defense of workers' interests?


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2020-11-07 17:30 [#02606730]
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yes we are? do you know what the working class looks like?


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2020-11-07 17:31 [#02606731]
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detention camps are cool if it's in the white workers'
interest


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-11-07 20:13 [#02606732]
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depends how mad we are at them. big mad? very white


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-11-07 20:13 [#02606733]
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the only options are open borders and death camps


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2020-11-07 20:45 [#02606734]
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well, yes actually


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-11-07 21:36 [#02606735]
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why not lay off the economic imperialism, IMF debt traps,
CIA coups, and proxy wars that drive people out of their own
countries. naaaah you're right death camps it is


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2020-11-07 22:18 [#02606736]
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yes i agree global communism is the better option


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-11-08 00:06 [#02606737]
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What about a kinder, gentler capitalism?


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2020-11-08 20:10 [#02606759]
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sorry dude i just cant get into that sort of thing. im
probably never gonna do it


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2020-11-08 20:49 [#02606761]
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okay, if xltronic goes for good then goodbye


 


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