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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2020-11-02 21:48 [#02606683]
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so robert fisk has died and i was wondering how u guys felt about that
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2020-11-02 22:52 [#02606684]
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RIP old journalist man
I read something to the effect that he destroyed his career by siding with the palestinians.
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-11-03 01:21 [#02606685]
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I enjoyed his work in Al Shakira or Al Qaeda or whatever it was called. You know, the good web page.
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-11-03 12:12 [#02606687]
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AMPI MAX how do you feel about BLUE LABOUR
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2020-11-04 16:19 [#02606696]
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i dont know ive never thought about it
robert fisk died and there were some people here that loved his work. but maybe hes not as famous as i thought. a lot of people havnt really given him as much attention over the last 10 years
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2020-11-04 16:21 [#02606697]
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no everyone loves him for his palestine thing. he destroyed his career writing articles for the assad regime
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2020-11-04 17:32 [#02606698]
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hey ampi, why dont u give discord a try
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-11-04 20:08 [#02606699]
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AMPI MAX is it true you only cum twice a year and it looks like a tablespoon of ricotta cheese with lashings of ketchup
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2020-11-04 20:18 [#02606700]
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i heard it was more like guacamole
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Roger Wilco
from Mo's Beans on 2020-11-05 07:38 [#02606706]
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Didn't he write for the Independent, which was never really a newspaper
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larn
from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2020-11-05 20:31 [#02606708]
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“You cannot get near the truth without being there”
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2020-11-06 06:48 [#02606713]
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not as dead as this place
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2020-11-06 09:26 [#02606717]
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lol
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2020-11-06 10:22 [#02606718]
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lol blue labour sounds like literal historic fascism???
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-11-06 12:53 [#02606719]
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how so
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2020-11-06 15:24 [#02606722]
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third way, socially conservative, corporatist, "family, faith and flag"?
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-11-06 17:06 [#02606723]
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real fascism only pays lip service to workers but attacks trade unions, socialists and workers collectives on behalf of capital though
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-11-06 17:08 [#02606724]
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I guess our only real options are woke neoliberalism, and benighted fascism with its awful working-class penchant for the N word and complete disregard for diversity in the boardroom
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2020-11-06 21:24 [#02606725]
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yes the working class is known for being entirely white and racist
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2020-11-06 21:28 [#02606726]
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like jesus man what's wrong with you, you've got to stop listening to those podcasts or whatever it is
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-11-07 02:57 [#02606727]
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no my point is that's a false dichotomy, that people looking out for their perceived self interest is not necessarily fascist or racist
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2020-11-07 03:15 [#02606728]
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debatable, but when your focus is anti-immigration and family faith and flag i find it rather explicit
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-11-07 15:31 [#02606729]
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again I don't think it's fascism proper unless the interest of workers is a veneer and it's actually the interest of capital being represented
since at least the 19th century oligarchy has leveraged majority identity in the defense of wealth, but we're supposed to clutch our pearls when majority identity is leveraged in defense of workers' interests?
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2020-11-07 17:30 [#02606730]
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yes we are? do you know what the working class looks like?
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2020-11-07 17:31 [#02606731]
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detention camps are cool if it's in the white workers' interest
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-11-07 20:13 [#02606732]
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depends how mad we are at them. big mad? very white
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-11-07 20:13 [#02606733]
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the only options are open borders and death camps
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2020-11-07 20:45 [#02606734]
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well, yes actually
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-11-07 21:36 [#02606735]
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why not lay off the economic imperialism, IMF debt traps, CIA coups, and proxy wars that drive people out of their own countries. naaaah you're right death camps it is
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2020-11-07 22:18 [#02606736]
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yes i agree global communism is the better option
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-11-08 00:06 [#02606737]
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What about a kinder, gentler capitalism?
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2020-11-08 20:10 [#02606759]
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sorry dude i just cant get into that sort of thing. im probably never gonna do it
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2020-11-08 20:49 [#02606761]
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okay, if xltronic goes for good then goodbye
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