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DADONCK
from here on 2020-06-24 23:27 [#02604148]
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so i got traumatised watching this film when i was 12
LAZY_TITLE
seriously fucked me up
"warning it could interfere with the development of children and their attitude toward death"
(true)
"When she finally went home that day in 1985, Forget went straight to her room. “It was as if someone dropped a dark cloud over me,” she recalls."
(i can relate to that, i remember that when i finished the film, it felt like the world had lost it's color. something that stayed with me for years)
can't wait until i get my first ptsd from a vr experience, yay
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2020-06-26 08:17 [#02604269]
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what once has been seen cant be unseen. had my share of gruesome pictures and clips, when a friend talked about faces of death and we started looking it up in the internet. those did leave a mark. i deeply regretted my curiosity. however i guess its hardly comparable to the trauma of real experiences, right?
footage of war may serve important purposes though. with all the glorification, heroism and superhero, comicalized violence, you may learn to stay away from war, the army and violent conflict in general.
or it could make you get up your ass and try to help end conflicts over ressources we import for example.
it mayfurther put things in perspective in numerous ways. for example the way we perceive and treat refugees.
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2020-06-26 08:21 [#02604270]
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what im trying to say is, if we only see people represented by numbers the only numbers we care about is 0.89 for a chocolate bar.
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2020-06-26 08:24 [#02604271]
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supporters of the death penalty, should be shown what its like too
right i stop now
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2020-06-26 08:26 [#02604272]
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dadonck, sorry to hear it took a toll on you, seriously not trying to play it down or ignore it.
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DADONCK
from here on 2020-06-26 09:59 [#02604273]
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hey! no problem at at :) just wanted to start a conversation. im fine. but i think about it sometimes. and yes, you are right, a real war situation ist something totally different.
my dad once told me that they had to watch war footage at the army and he had to go out and puke. he never told me what they had to watch but i guess it was footage from what the germans did to jews in second world war
i met this lady once who was working for magic leap. she couldn't talk about things that were happening in the basement there but she said, that with that VR/AR/MR technology its much likely that people will get ptsd from VR experiences of war for example. when i told that to a psychologist he said that smell is very important. smell will hammer that experience in your head. like the smell of burned meat after an explosion.
then i found this LAZY_TITLE
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2020-06-26 15:32 [#02604278]
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right of all senses smell is supposedly sticking in your memory the longest. its so deep within you dont even know what hits you when that smell reoccurs.
as to vr and smell-o-vision, i want games and tv to be realistic.
not sure where to draw the line in terms of gore. gore shouldnt be entertaining at all. but then i just recently watched all of stranger things and enjoyed it quite a lot (except that season 3 seemed like an over the top action comedy).
so heres to a little bigotism.
wonder what your dad was shown in the army. when i was in primary school, me and my neighbours kids spent 3 weeks in a socialist summer camp in the gdr? (ddr) and we visited the ruins of a concentration camp. we were shown a movie of piled carcasses, starved jews and the mountains of shoes and more. it was terrible. this kind of footage has been shown a lot in germany and i think it is important to do so, so people who didnt live at the time know what that shit is like. not neccessarily to primers though.
i also still remember a gory scene from the movie hamburger hill, one of the earliest anti war movies i have seen. a message can be delivered without showing the real thing.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2020-06-26 23:08 [#02604288]
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