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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2020-01-24 16:24 [#02593745]
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new series featuring our favourite earl grey drinker started today... it's not bad! maybe not worth 8 quid a month just for this, but worth a watch if yr already an amazon prime member. trekkies, gogogo
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-01-24 16:35 [#02593746]
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the trailer looked like it had a lot of phaser gunplay it it, I always though star trek was the best when after an away mission picard was philosophising on the prime directive in his ready room sometimes he didn't make the correct choice, still want to watch it,
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2020-01-24 16:39 [#02593748]
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Waiting for the red-letter media review They already reviewed the trailer
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-01-24 16:43 [#02593751]
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downloading, willing to give it a chance, especially since the first few episodes, or even first seasons of TNG, DS9 and Voyager were terrible. Actually Voyager stayed terrible, aside from 7 of 69
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2020-01-24 17:18 [#02593756]
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Set phasers to colostomy
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-01-24 17:40 [#02593757]
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yeah I wish it was made 15 years ago, he is ready for his pipe and slippers for sure, he might snuff it half way through the series (hope to god not)
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Roger Wilco
from Mo's Beans on 2020-01-24 18:30 [#02593758]
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Woke Trek: The Search for Offence
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2020-01-24 18:31 [#02593759]
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I think that was Discovery
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2020-01-24 18:31 [#02593760]
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I’ll be actually sad when he bites it. Not Bowie sad but still genuinely upset.
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Roger Wilco
from Mo's Beans on 2020-01-24 18:57 [#02593762]
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I didn't mind the first series of ST Disco' but I only managed a couple of episodes of season 2 before I went "NO !. Exactly the point when science girl goes "That's the power of math" and albino poof looks on approvingly. Not for me, I thought, not for me.
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-01-24 19:03 [#02593763]
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The Search for Offence
Ha ha! That's your mission statement, Roger. You've got more triggers than the women's studies department at Brown.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-01-24 19:06 [#02593764]
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yeah likewise, I remember shedding tear putting the kettle on when bowie died, cos I was thinking of the bridge in station to station
Once there were mountains on mountains And once there were sun birds to soar with And once I could never be down
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-01-24 19:07 [#02593765]
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getting older is hard, all the heroes of your youth star snuffing it
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2020-01-24 19:12 [#02593766]
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That’s the exact same point I stopped watching it! I wonder how many others too.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2020-01-24 19:14 [#02593767]
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I was strangely attracted to the ginger munter tho, slim picking on that ship though really.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2020-01-24 19:15 [#02593768]
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The whole science team on discovery felt like they took a wrong turn in the studio lot and we’re meant to be extras on Bog Bang Theory
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-01-24 19:18 [#02593769]
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I haven't watched it yet, it sounds a bit shit
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2020-01-24 19:34 [#02593770]
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First series is worth a watch, I enjoyed it until the end. Second series just didn’t click for me though.
It’s Star Trek in the JJ Ibrahims vein for sure though.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-01-24 20:00 [#02593771]
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I will probably watch it out of curiosity, but yeah JJ Abrams one was star trek in name only as tone was concerned, it was like a Michael bay film
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RussellDust
on 2020-01-24 20:05 [#02593776]
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I think it’s important to always have something critical to say. I don’t think anyone should truly enjoy themselves anymore.
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Roger Wilco
from Mo's Beans on 2020-01-24 20:42 [#02593779]
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I'd like to enjoy something without some big theatrical wink in it going "Refugees... Trump... Brexit?? Do you see???"
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RussellDust
on 2020-01-24 20:45 [#02593780]
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I’m sure that’s in your reach.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-01-24 20:48 [#02593781]
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its part of getting old, everything seems like a poor facsimile of what came before, I don't know if that's actually true, my brain feels like a cassette tape that's been rewound to many times so things seem less fresh
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-01-24 20:50 [#02593782]
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LAZY_TITLE
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-01-24 20:52 [#02593783]
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There was a guy with half a ginger afro and half a burn face who used to get on the school bus and scare the kids, reminds me of battle damaged kahn
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-01-24 21:03 [#02593788]
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the new series should be picard trying to get back into the nexus, realising he made a mistake leaving his Victorian style kids
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-01-24 21:05 [#02593789]
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why can't science fiction be non political like it was back in the day. the original star trek, original star wars, dune, alien, blade runner... all pewpew lazer gun, no politics
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2020-01-24 21:15 [#02593790]
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so far the new one seems concerned with augmented human / android kids and refugee romulans but i'm willing to cut it some slack as far as heavy handed social commentary goes, comes with the territory in trek
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2020-01-24 21:15 [#02593791]
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(not supposed 2b followup)
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2020-01-24 21:55 [#02593794]
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Wouldnt it be cool if space travel was fucking real
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2020-01-24 22:30 [#02593795]
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I just watched Ad Astra. I enjoyed it a lot.
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-01-25 01:59 [#02593802]
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ST:P was good, I like how they condensed the central ideas of Blade Runner into 2-4 minutes of dialogue.
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Roger Wilco
from Mo's Beans on 2020-01-25 09:21 [#02593816]
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There's politics and then there's politics. One of the central themes of Bank's Culture books is the dilemma of whether an advanced .... culture should interfere with a "lesser" one. The Strugatsky brothers "Hard to be a God" another. And of course the original Star Trek. I'm sure there's a million others. But that's kind of a ... universal concept that will always be around whilst we have difference (ie forever). It's timeless. Ecology, another one. Philosophical questions. Society. War. Terrorism. You know very well I am not harping for some Captain Zarg and the 100 Years War against Space ISIS.
What annoys me is the adoption of the latest thing that upsets liberals and wedging that in. In Dune there's mention of refugees being used as weapons, but no hand-wringing and going "We must stop this madness, open the gates. ... They have so much to teach us!?!?!?!" Is Trump to first populist leader? Is Brexit that bad? Are there other things going on in the world... more complicated things that might do well to be treated in a different way? No, it's boooo Trump, boooo Brexit, open the borders.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-01-25 10:53 [#02593820]
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series 3, the genesis device is launched to turn the Klingon home world totally gender bending, they all start wearing make up
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-01-25 11:16 [#02593821]
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worf goes handbag shopping
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Roger Wilco
from Mo's Beans on 2020-01-25 12:47 [#02593822]
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Buys a nice dress before their Sologamy ceremony.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-01-25 12:49 [#02593823]
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I had to google that, that is very self indulgent!
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-01-25 12:51 [#02593824]
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LAZY_TITLE
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-01-25 15:25 [#02593825]
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Picard is about what Star Trek has always been about: that universal rights trump any other political or protocol considerations. Why does that bother you now? Possibly because you voted for brexit - having been, like many, fooled into seeing it as a vote for nationalism rather than as a vote to fully unleash global capital and finish the process of Thatcherizing England - and the cognitive dissonance is killing you; you have to harmonize your ideology with your behaviour or be torn in half.
Dune is about Muslims overthrowing the European imperial powers who have colonized them for oil, and establishing an interstellar caliphate.
Banks' Culture is about fully automated luxury gay space communism, where people fully transition biological sex (and even species!) at will.
Lucas has said that Star Wars is a Vietnam allegory, and the Ewoks are Viet Cong.
Alien is about the end game of capitalism with governments serving as the henchmen of corporations and life explicitly worth nothing next to profits.
Blade Runner is about the revolt of an exploited slave underclass.
Science fiction, in short - aside from some bits of Heinlein and Orson Scott Card - is entirely hostile to the kind of politics you subscribe to ever since your head turned into a giant baked ham.
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Roger Wilco
from Mo's Beans on 2020-01-25 16:56 [#02593826]
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When I was younger, baked ham/gammon was a bit of treat. Slice of pineapple on top, lovely.
I bet they don't even let you buy it anymore...
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Roger Wilco
from Mo's Beans on 2020-01-25 17:03 [#02593827]
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Star Wars a Vietnam allegory... well I guess ROTJ has a bit in the jungle but it's hardly fucking Apocalypse Now.
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Roger Wilco
from Mo's Beans on 2020-01-25 17:58 [#02593828]
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The difference between the Space Fiction and actuality is
The Culture have almost infinite resources. Star Fleet aren't confined to Earth, neither is Blade Runner world. In Dune the TE Lawrence character wants to prevent jihad because he knows it's a Bad Thing. But then he's "European" so what would he know? Let the spice flow.
Ray Bradbury deals with "issues" beautifully, so does Rod Sterling. Never ever do I want to destroy myself and everyone around me quite like when some Rian Johnson starts wanking into the Woke sock.
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Roger Wilco
from Mo's Beans on 2020-01-25 17:59 [#02593829]
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Serling you CUNT of an autocorrect
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-01-27 02:29 [#02593911]
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hoes mad
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-01-27 08:55 [#02593915]
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watching re:View its great they explain about the implausibility of the supernova, that's what I loved about original trek, it had fantasy/implausible elements but the science that we did know about was done really well, cos it was written by people with proper science backgrounds and hard science fiction writers
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-01-27 11:27 [#02593917]
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I have no patience for the "well actually" school of science fiction-fantasy video review, which is designed to make a below average youtube audience feel like big brains. The original Star Trek had about five Roman planets because the props were either cheap or lying around, all the aliens spoke English and the space suits had open mesh face plates.
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2020-01-27 11:30 [#02593918]
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Janeway's tits
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-01-27 11:37 [#02593919]
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At her best moments she had kind of a Kate Hepburn thing going on.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-01-27 11:47 [#02593920]
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yeah that's true, TNG had more proper science in it though, it would like to think they have regressed, the supernova thing is pretty basic knowledge, specially if its a central plot point. It doesn't make sense that the romulans wouldn't have known about it
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-01-27 12:21 [#02593924]
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The only episode of star trek I really disliked was the one that Janeway and Tom Paris devolve into Lizards, have baby Lizards then are genetically engineered back while retaining both their human memories even though their brains radically changed
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