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new series featuring our favourite earl grey drinker started today... it's not bad! maybe not worth 8 quid a month just for this, but worth a watch if yr already an amazon prime member. trekkies, gogogo |
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the trailer looked like it had a lot of phaser gunplay it it, I always though star trek was the best when after an away mission picard was philosophising on the prime directive in his ready room sometimes he didn't make the correct choice, still want to watch it, |
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Waiting for the red-letter media review They already reviewed the trailer |
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downloading, willing to give it a chance, especially since the first few episodes, or even first seasons of TNG, DS9 and Voyager were terrible. Actually Voyager stayed terrible, aside from 7 of 69 |
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Set phasers to colostomy |
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yeah I wish it was made 15 years ago, he is ready for his pipe and slippers for sure, he might snuff it half way through the series (hope to god not) |
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Woke Trek: The Search for Offence |
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I think that was Discovery |
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I’ll be actually sad when he bites it. Not Bowie sad but still genuinely upset. |
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I didn't mind the first series of ST Disco' but I only managed a couple of episodes of season 2 before I went "NO !. Exactly the point when science girl goes "That's the power of math" and albino poof looks on approvingly. Not for me, I thought, not for me. |
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The Search for Offence Ha ha! That's your mission statement, Roger. You've got more triggers than the women's studies department at Brown. |
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yeah likewise, I remember shedding tear putting the kettle on when bowie died, cos I was thinking of the bridge in station to station Once there were mountains on mountains And once there were sun birds to soar with And once I could never be down |
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getting older is hard, all the heroes of your youth star snuffing it |
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That’s the exact same point I stopped watching it! I wonder how many others too. |
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I was strangely attracted to the ginger munter tho, slim picking on that ship though really. |
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The whole science team on discovery felt like they took a wrong turn in the studio lot and we’re meant to be extras on Bog Bang Theory |
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I haven't watched it yet, it sounds a bit shit |
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First series is worth a watch, I enjoyed it until the end. Second series just didn’t click for me though. It’s Star Trek in the JJ Ibrahims vein for sure though. |
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I will probably watch it out of curiosity, but yeah JJ Abrams one was star trek in name only as tone was concerned, it was like a Michael bay film |
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I think it’s important to always have something critical to say. I don’t think anyone should truly enjoy themselves anymore. |
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I'd like to enjoy something without some big theatrical wink in it going "Refugees... Trump... Brexit?? Do you see???" |
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I’m sure that’s in your reach. |
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its part of getting old, everything seems like a poor facsimile of what came before, I don't know if that's actually true, my brain feels like a cassette tape that's been rewound to many times so things seem less fresh |
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There was a guy with half a ginger afro and half a burn face who used to get on the school bus and scare the kids, reminds me of battle damaged kahn |
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the new series should be picard trying to get back into the nexus, realising he made a mistake leaving his Victorian style kids |
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why can't science fiction be non political like it was back in the day. the original star trek, original star wars, dune, alien, blade runner... all pewpew lazer gun, no politics |
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so far the new one seems concerned with augmented human / android kids and refugee romulans but i'm willing to cut it some slack as far as heavy handed social commentary goes, comes with the territory in trek |
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(not supposed 2b followup) |
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Wouldnt it be cool if space travel was fucking real |
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I just watched Ad Astra. I enjoyed it a lot. |
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ST:P was good, I like how they condensed the central ideas of Blade Runner into 2-4 minutes of dialogue. |
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There's politics and then there's politics. One of the central themes of Bank's Culture books is the dilemma of whether an advanced .... culture should interfere with a "lesser" one. The Strugatsky brothers "Hard to be a God" another. And of course the original Star Trek. I'm sure there's a million others. But that's kind of a ... universal concept that will always be around whilst we have difference (ie forever). It's timeless. Ecology, another one. Philosophical questions. Society. War. Terrorism. You know very well I am not harping for some Captain Zarg and the 100 Years War against Space ISIS. What annoys me is the adoption of the latest thing that upsets liberals and wedging that in. In Dune there's mention of refugees being used as weapons, but no hand-wringing and going "We must stop this madness, open the gates. ... They have so much to teach us!?!?!?!" Is Trump to first populist leader? Is Brexit that bad? Are there other things going on in the world... more complicated things that might do well to be treated in a different way? No, it's boooo Trump, boooo Brexit, open the borders. |
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series 3, the genesis device is launched to turn the Klingon home world totally gender bending, they all start wearing make up |
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worf goes handbag shopping |
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Buys a nice dress before their Sologamy ceremony. |
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I had to google that, that is very self indulgent! |
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Picard is about what Star Trek has always been about: that universal rights trump any other political or protocol considerations. Why does that bother you now? Possibly because you voted for brexit - having been, like many, fooled into seeing it as a vote for nationalism rather than as a vote to fully unleash global capital and finish the process of Thatcherizing England - and the cognitive dissonance is killing you; you have to harmonize your ideology with your behaviour or be torn in half. Dune is about Muslims overthrowing the European imperial powers who have colonized them for oil, and establishing an interstellar caliphate. Banks' Culture is about fully automated luxury gay space communism, where people fully transition biological sex (and even species!) at will. Lucas has said that Star Wars is a Vietnam allegory, and the Ewoks are Viet Cong. Alien is about the end game of capitalism with governments serving as the henchmen of corporations and life explicitly worth nothing next to profits. Blade Runner is about the revolt of an exploited slave underclass. Science fiction, in short - aside from some bits of Heinlein and Orson Scott Card - is entirely hostile to the kind of politics you subscribe to ever since your head turned into a giant baked ham. |
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.... When I was younger, baked ham/gammon was a bit of treat. Slice of pineapple on top, lovely. I bet they don't even let you buy it anymore... |
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Star Wars a Vietnam allegory... well I guess ROTJ has a bit in the jungle but it's hardly fucking Apocalypse Now. |
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The difference between the Space Fiction and actuality is The Culture have almost infinite resources. Star Fleet aren't confined to Earth, neither is Blade Runner world. In Dune the TE Lawrence character wants to prevent jihad because he knows it's a Bad Thing. But then he's "European" so what would he know? Let the spice flow. Ray Bradbury deals with "issues" beautifully, so does Rod Sterling. Never ever do I want to destroy myself and everyone around me quite like when some Rian Johnson starts wanking into the Woke sock. |
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Serling you CUNT of an autocorrect |
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hoes mad |
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watching re:View its great they explain about the implausibility of the supernova, that's what I loved about original trek, it had fantasy/implausible elements but the science that we did know about was done really well, cos it was written by people with proper science backgrounds and hard science fiction writers |
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I have no patience for the "well actually" school of science fiction-fantasy video review, which is designed to make a below average youtube audience feel like big brains. The original Star Trek had about five Roman planets because the props were either cheap or lying around, all the aliens spoke English and the space suits had open mesh face plates. |
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Janeway's tits |
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At her best moments she had kind of a Kate Hepburn thing going on. |
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yeah that's true, TNG had more proper science in it though, it would like to think they have regressed, the supernova thing is pretty basic knowledge, specially if its a central plot point. It doesn't make sense that the romulans wouldn't have known about it |
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The only episode of star trek I really disliked was the one that Janeway and Tom Paris devolve into Lizards, have baby Lizards then are genetically engineered back while retaining both their human memories even though their brains radically changed |
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