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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2019-04-24 20:42 [#02575613]
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What’s happening to the uyghur people is distressing. Brainwashing camps, people disappearing for years on end, torture. I first learned about them from reading Peter Hitchens travel columns years ago. When I was in China I got as far West as Gansu province which was a 24 hour train ride from Shanghai. I went to a Tibetan village in Gansu and they hated the Chinese with a passion. They’d sent in tanks to quell rebellions in the past. Kind of wished I’d made it to Kashgar now.
I wouldn’t recommend Britain turning into some kind of police state, even though it already is headed that way. But Islam is special and different because it is a proselytising religion with violence encoded into it. The best thing we could do is accept the truth. Then we could cut the benefits for Muslims, close down the mosques, and ship as many of them as possible out, into France if possible.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2019-04-24 20:45 [#02575614]
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haha! that final touch was art
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-24 20:46 [#02575615]
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Yeah I mean I guess the difficultly comes in identifying the ultra fanatical ones, I guess Islam hasn't gone through a reformation process like some other world religions so its still in a medieval mindset for the most part, surely the majority of them are decent people who just happen to be Muslim? or am I being naïve and they are all baying for the fall of western civilization, that's the two view points I find myself in,
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2019-04-24 20:47 [#02575616]
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they preach it in the streets of london you fucking tit!!!!!
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2019-04-24 20:48 [#02575617]
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out of frikkin democracy!!!!!!!
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-24 20:50 [#02575618]
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yeah but do they speak for everyone in Islam? I get the impression there is a silent majority who probably don't take it too seriously but just show up to the mosque
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2019-04-24 20:53 [#02575619]
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islam IS the majority
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-24 20:54 [#02575620]
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id rephrase it like this then, if we got rid of all the Muslims in the country say, how would you feel about the thousands of them who are decent people, kids, doctors etc,
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-24 20:56 [#02575622]
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I don't like Islam its a backwards ideology, I just think ethnic cleansing is the wrong way about sorting the problem out, call me old fashioned
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-24 20:58 [#02575623]
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Id get rid of the hardcore ones though for sure, strip them of citizenship and send them to Afghanistan
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2019-04-24 20:59 [#02575625]
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It’s all a pipe dream anyway. Islam is here to stay. Unless all the freqys in the country rise up. Lol.
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2019-04-24 21:02 [#02575626]
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https://images.app.goo.gl/wNWUyb2VXbutUoDfA
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2019-04-24 21:02 [#02575627]
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you have buses full of fundamentalists visit the capital, seriously go for a walk in london with a hood and its like assassin creed was real
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2019-04-24 21:04 [#02575628]
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Lol
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-24 21:04 [#02575629]
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Yeah I mean I think multiculturalism a bad idea, the idea that you can have contradicting ethnical standards in one society is never going to work, Islam's idea of how women are treated is antithetical to our core beliefs, never mind the idea of sharia courts
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-24 21:05 [#02575630]
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oh yeah I know I wouldn't mind someone getting rid of those arseholes by any means necessary, I just meant like your local NHS doctor who is culturally a Muslim but really is secretly agnostic
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mermaidman
on 2019-04-24 21:05 [#02575631]
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in a uk in which they let an umbroman live why would they ship anyone out
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-24 21:06 [#02575632]
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The Ironic thing is if all western ideology was destroyed in London they wouldn't want to live their anymore cos it would be like Kabul or someone shit hole
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2019-04-24 21:10 [#02575633]
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It’s all hypothetical. The reality is that Islam is here to stay. Soon it will be illegal to do anything Islamophobic. So I’m trying to express my distaste with their violence and proselytising ways while it’s still allowed.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2019-04-24 21:10 [#02575634]
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dont we all miss a freqy in here, i have to do the freqy to get my point straight
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-24 21:12 [#02575635]
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oh yeah well I totally agree with that
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-24 21:12 [#02575636]
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Islamophobia is a word to silence critical thinking
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2019-04-24 21:23 [#02575638]
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london the new kabwol
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2019-04-24 21:25 [#02575640]
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sorry i shouldnt speak for present day, last time i checked was 7 years ago, the year of the olympics (pun intended)
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2019-04-24 21:27 [#02575641]
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guess everything is back to normal now that the security level has dropped
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2019-04-24 21:28 [#02575642]
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jesus christ you guys are fucked up idiots, and i don't even like islam
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2019-04-24 21:32 [#02575643]
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hello miss 'this is worse than 320 dead'
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2019-04-24 21:34 [#02575645]
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what are you on about, i'm not the one competing deaths against eachother
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2019-04-24 21:34 [#02575646]
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I like the muslim guys I met in China. We were buddies studying Chinese together by day, going to squalid Chinese nightclubs by night. They were fabric traders from Turkey, Iran, and Afghanistan. The ones from Iran were the nicest, never asked me to convert. the Turkish and Afghans on the other hand asked me a bunch of times to find a better religion.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2019-04-24 21:36 [#02575647]
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you're not competing deaths but you're competing disgust
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2019-04-24 21:37 [#02575648]
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hi it's me hyperflake i wonder if muslims are diverse human beings or mere islambots
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-24 21:39 [#02575649]
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yeah I mean I cant say I tolerate their right to be intolerant,
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-24 21:40 [#02575650]
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yeah that's what I was getting at, I think the former for the most part, but even the moderate Muslim often have distasteful beliefs when you press them on it I reckon
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-24 21:41 [#02575651]
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If you take your position and the position of Mo & umbroman im somewhere in between, I guess
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mermaidman
on 2019-04-24 21:50 [#02575653]
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because there are pedophile christian priests should we say christianity endorses pedophilia
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mermaidman
on 2019-04-24 21:52 [#02575655]
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your shitty arguments are as dumb as that
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-24 21:53 [#02575656]
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Person 1 asserts proposition X. Person 2 argues against a superficially similar proposition Y, falsely, as if an argument against Y were an argument against X.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2019-04-24 21:54 [#02575657]
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you can manipulate a kid genitalia until 9 years of age according to sharia, but we all know the law is intepreted broadly dont we
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-24 21:56 [#02575658]
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anyway Catholics are just a different side of the same nutty coin
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2019-04-24 21:57 [#02575659]
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because you say so
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mermaidman
on 2019-04-24 21:59 [#02575660]
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you just wrote “even the moderate muslim often have distasteful beliefs when you press them on it” do i need to say more? the above reply wasn’t only directed at you of course
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-24 21:59 [#02575661]
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they all offshoots of the same Levantine Abrahamic tradition that believes in monotheism so they are quite alike in lots of respects
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mermaidman
on 2019-04-24 22:00 [#02575662]
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whatever i don’t even know why i bother really
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-24 22:01 [#02575663]
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I know don't worry about it, im mostly just thinking out loud, I don't really have any concrete opinions really, I don't even know any Muslims.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2019-04-24 22:01 [#02575664]
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ive tasted both the sides with my parents, instead of reading internet bollocks like you
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-24 22:02 [#02575665]
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Its not for me to sort out societies eternal squabbling anyway thank god, I just take people as individuals
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2019-04-24 22:06 [#02575666]
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ok
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-24 22:07 [#02575668]
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let god sort em out
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-24 22:11 [#02575670]
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sorry mermaid I was a bit of tit to you, hope your alright
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2019-04-24 22:27 [#02575671]
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In a related vein I just watched Deeyah Khan's short documentary Jihad: A Story of the Others. It offers some insight into how these guys get radicalized. She interviews former jihadis and radical sympathizers and they discuss their "whoah, is this what I've become, is this what I'm part of" moments.
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