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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2019-04-10 21:42 [#02574068]
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6907363/May-faces- racism-storm-adviser-Roger-Scruton.html
Seems like a great bloke really. About to be sacked for speaking his mind on Islam. Lol.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2019-04-10 22:57 [#02574087]
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sounds funny to me
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2019-04-10 23:02 [#02574091]
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think the tribes he talks about in hungary are the immigrants... hehe
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-10 23:03 [#02574093]
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Roger Scruton and his magical crouton
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-10 23:08 [#02574095]
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that's the last time he gets free scallops down the chippy
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2019-04-10 23:08 [#02574096]
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ha ha
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2019-04-10 23:25 [#02574103]
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haha that nearly just caused me to choke on a bourbon
i thought this was going to be a thread about roger "popeye" scruton from the adrian mole books, how disappointing. just another "outspoken", supposedly tell-it-like-it-is cunt of an unelected advisor. on a whacking great salary no doubt
do you believe the muslim brotherhood invented the notion of prejudice against muslims umbro? or that the chinese are all replicas of each other?
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2019-04-10 23:26 [#02574104]
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(the crouton remark caused me to inhale my biscuit i mean, forgot the followup button)
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-10 23:29 [#02574105]
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yeah I have to say his wilful ignorance is unexpected, if the Chinese are replicas are he suggesting they are cloned by a queen like in alien, or there is some giant fortune cookie shape generator spawning them
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-10 23:30 [#02574106]
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lol sorry would want that on your obituary, "died inhaling a bourbon biscuit" would be funny if it was Noel Edmonds obituary though
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2019-04-10 23:32 [#02574108]
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well thats common 'knowledge' honestly
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2019-04-10 23:34 [#02574109]
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i agree you cant come out with that stuff with a mic before your mouth, and in that position
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2019-04-10 23:37 [#02574110]
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i'm not sure, perhaps he's going on about chinese schooling or top-down bureaucracy but i think he's using broad-brush stereotypes to play on yellow peril racism. he's a deliberately faux-controversial magnet for ukip types if you ask me
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-10 23:39 [#02574111]
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LAZY_TITLE
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-10 23:40 [#02574112]
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yeah I agree with the fact they always reverse engineer western technology and don't seem to encourage creative thinking, there is definitely something to criticise on that perspective
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-10 23:41 [#02574113]
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Chinese steve jobs
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hevquip
from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2019-04-11 00:06 [#02574116]
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i just think it's funny that people who have problems with religion will openly bash something like christianity, but once you ask them how they feel about the jews & muslims they clam up because "muh_racism" or "muh_islamophobia", even though christians, jews, & muslims are all one in the same i.e. religious people and all adhere to the abrahamic belief system. kinda weird how brainwashed & conditioned people are like that, isn't it? religion is religion, regardless of what religion it is or who follows what. you're either for religion and all it's peoples, or you're against religion and all it's peoples, regardless of who they are.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-11 00:12 [#02574117]
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all organised religion is a load of poisonous bollocks to my mind, couldn't care less if I was called Islamophobic, I think that's the one thing I would agree with his, wielding that word is a sort of a way of inhibiting freedom of expression
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-11 00:14 [#02574120]
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hevquip
from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2019-04-11 00:25 [#02574127]
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i agree religion is all mostly bullshit, especially any sort of fundamentalism, but there are a few good tenets in each system. the problem is obviously human interpretation of like, reeeaaally old texts from when we were all borderline idiots (someone's IQ from 2000 years ago was much less than what our IQs are today) and yet people still take that shit at face value these days in the modern world. of course maybe 2000 years from now we'll all be labeled heretics & heathens when some new religion takes over the world and indoctrinates everyone, regardless of how smart & enlightened we think we are now.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2019-04-11 00:26 [#02574130]
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less is more is useless gits, people go crazy, loses hair and screams in the attempt to interpretate those books.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-11 00:29 [#02574133]
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yeah I think it was a vital step for the development of civilization, social cohesion but its more of a hinderance now,
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-11 00:30 [#02574134]
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I often wonder if they truly believe the Quran or just use it for their place in a hierarchy like catholic priests,
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2019-04-11 00:32 [#02574136]
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there are torah scholars that have studied it so deeply they can recite it just as a muslim cleric.. the creepy ones you hear coming out of telephones
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-11 00:38 [#02574142]
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yes, its beyond bizarre, when I see the kids rocking back and forth reading some religious text and learning it like a parrot, it seems like child abuse
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2019-04-11 04:56 [#02574154]
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Actually i read a book by him, he is also a regular guest on Nigel Warburtons philosophy podcast. I am not a conservative, and i dunno what Scruton said exactly, but calling him a nazi and white supremacist seems stupid. I am starting to really dislike this outrage culture.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2019-04-11 05:56 [#02574155]
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What Scruton actually said
National review: The smear of Roger Scruton
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-11 08:28 [#02574156]
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I read some scruton at uni. Guy's a willy. For once I agree with monoid though, he ain't a nazi, just self important.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2019-04-11 08:34 [#02574157]
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i agree its some kind of cohercion but dont relate it with child abuse, it just doesn't match. on the other hand they could all become engineers, while the best i could do now is photocopies.
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mermaidman
on 2019-04-11 09:01 [#02574161]
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he best i could do now is photocopies too
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mermaidman
on 2019-04-11 09:04 [#02574162]
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some kind of cohercion i agree also
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2019-04-11 10:57 [#02574167]
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you reach a point in life you dont give a fuck anymore
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RussellDust
on 2019-04-11 12:39 [#02574176]
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“You’re either for religion and all it's peoples, or you're
against religion and all it's peoples, regardless of who they are.”
No you’re not.
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RussellDust
on 2019-04-11 14:08 [#02574181]
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You can tolerate and accept both sides, no?
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