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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-06 16:20 [#02560576]
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back at the beginning of the year, in january or so, i posted an album of generative stuff made with a max/msp patch which a few people listened to. this morning i woke and fiddled with the patch and made it a bit more 'dancey' i guess but also unpredictable.
you can listen to an album of that stuff here
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2018-09-06 18:02 [#02560578]
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Yeah this is good
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-06 19:06 [#02560595]
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thanks m8
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2018-09-06 20:38 [#02560621]
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these are pretty interesting, they sound like they're in the process of being workshopped into something
I like niootsej
does the patch have realtime control?
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2018-09-06 20:47 [#02560623]
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I put them on random play, as one does
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-06 21:14 [#02560626]
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Yeah every single element is controllable, you can bypass the generation process and just compose normally and then add randomisation elements if you like.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-06 21:15 [#02560627]
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or generate something and then tweak it.
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RussellDust
on 2018-09-06 21:25 [#02560628]
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Really enjoying these. The one Danza mentioned is actually one of my lesser favourites.
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2018-09-07 01:49 [#02560662]
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So is this integrated with Ableton? Or just Max standalone? I'm wondering how you represent and tweak the data, or enter it from scratch.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2018-09-07 02:22 [#02560664]
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If IDM is composing itself, does that mean we've reached The Singularityâ„¢?
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2018-09-07 02:22 [#02560665]
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(these are pretty cool, by the way)
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-07 10:41 [#02560670]
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zero ableton integration. It's got no user friendlyness at the moment.
heres some info for you LAZY_TITLE
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-07 10:42 [#02560671]
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fucks sake LAZY_TITLE
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-07 18:25 [#02560687]
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thanks 4 the tech info, its all midi so u can swap out the instruments easily, yes?? (i don't know max/msp very well)
totally addictive generating tunes like this, i find; its like 'one more go'!!
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-07 18:26 [#02560688]
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are u doing the instruments in msp too??
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-07 19:48 [#02560694]
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Yes exactly, just sends 6 channels of midi out of Max and in to wherever you have your instruments. In my case they were all on iPad for this but I could've sent them to some of my max synths if I wanted.
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2018-09-07 19:52 [#02560695]
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How did you do the fm stuff? Which korg synth was that?
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2018-09-07 19:58 [#02560696]
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listening now. i'd be well tempted to generate melodies (which i struggled with when i was last makimg tracks) and then fuzzy them with field recorded stuff / found sounds in wavelab or whatever. liking what i hear though
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-07 20:34 [#02560697]
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Thatll be Chiang Mai, part of korg gadget.
belb, I made a similar patch that manipulated samples years back, I'll have a look for it and see if I can do some tracks.
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2018-09-07 21:00 [#02560698]
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sounds good mengbro!
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-07 22:25 [#02560699]
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are there gates/duration on any of those instrument or just on/off on a stepsequenece step style?
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-07 22:26 [#02560700]
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I'm tryna figure out the patch, whilst admitedly slightly drunk
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-07 22:40 [#02560701]
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most fun i've had all day hah!
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-07 22:45 [#02560703]
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personally i think generative/random remix systems are great as long as they always give u the data in some format that can be precisely edited at the end. Get so many fun tunes out of these systems and then you want to string them together, or go in and change a single pitch somewhere, it's not happening. Although here it could because u could record the midi, but the setup is still 4 sheets to the wind.
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-07 22:47 [#02560704]
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But i suppose that is a lot of perceived romance of generative things - that it is 'in the monent', one off, ... well yeah, but I want to edit stuff too
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-07 22:51 [#02560705]
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BUt if u make a track in the moment and record it and it's perfect, how is that any different...??? GAH... Heh... uknow
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2018-09-08 13:48 [#02560724]
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Good informations, thanks for the diagrams Indy!
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2018-09-08 18:05 [#02560728]
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how did ya sort out the titles?
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2018-09-08 18:16 [#02560729]
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O Q B F H P M N Z W X D N G F K
is the only one i like so far
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2018-09-08 18:23 [#02560730]
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yeah N I O O T S E J is pretty cool as well
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2018-09-08 18:23 [#02560731]
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you know i like this mood
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2018-09-08 18:24 [#02560732]
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incedibly deep harmonies in there, makes me wonder its made by a machine
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2018-09-08 18:27 [#02560733]
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funny sounds in track 9, made me smile
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-09 14:09 [#02560757]
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Track titles are randomly generated, 8 characters for one version of the patch, 16 characters for the other, older version. The album alternates between the two. They're from the seed generator I started to make for the patch so you could repeat songs but ended up not using.
The album title has the word pareidolia in it, every other character.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2018-09-10 00:41 [#02560779]
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I still have 4 of your Eps on my super old iPod I listen to
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