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offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-06 16:20 [#02560576]
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back at the beginning of the year, in january or so, i
posted an album of generative stuff made with a max/msp
patch which a few people listened to. this morning i woke
and fiddled with the patch and made it a bit more 'dancey' i
guess but also unpredictable.

you can listen to an album of that stuff here


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2018-09-06 18:02 [#02560578]
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Yeah this is good


 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-06 19:06 [#02560595]
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thanks m8


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2018-09-06 20:38 [#02560621]
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these are pretty interesting, they sound like they're in the
process of being workshopped into something

I like niootsej

does the patch have realtime control?


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2018-09-06 20:47 [#02560623]
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I put them on random play, as one does


 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-06 21:14 [#02560626]
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Yeah every single element is controllable, you can bypass
the generation process and just compose normally and then
add randomisation elements if you like.


 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-06 21:15 [#02560627]
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or generate something and then tweak it.


 

offline RussellDust on 2018-09-06 21:25 [#02560628]
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Really enjoying these. The one Danza mentioned is actually
one of my lesser favourites.


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2018-09-07 01:49 [#02560662]
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So is this integrated with Ableton? Or just Max standalone?
I'm wondering how you represent and tweak the data, or enter
it from scratch.


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2018-09-07 02:22 [#02560664]
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If IDM is composing itself, does that mean we've reached The
Singularityâ„¢?


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2018-09-07 02:22 [#02560665]
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(these are pretty cool, by the way)


 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-07 10:41 [#02560670]
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zero ableton integration. It's got no user friendlyness at
the moment.

heres some info for you LAZY_TITLE


 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-07 10:42 [#02560671]
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fucks sake LAZY_TITLE


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-07 18:25 [#02560687]
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thanks 4 the tech info,
its all midi so u can swap out the instruments easily, yes??
(i don't know max/msp very well)
totally addictive generating tunes like this, i find; its
like 'one more go'!!



 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-07 18:26 [#02560688]
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are u doing the instruments in msp too??


 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-07 19:48 [#02560694]
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Yes exactly, just sends 6 channels of midi out of Max and in
to wherever you have your instruments. In my case they were
all on iPad for this but I could've sent them to some of my
max synths if I wanted.


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2018-09-07 19:52 [#02560695]
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How did you do the fm stuff? Which korg synth was that?


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2018-09-07 19:58 [#02560696]
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listening now. i'd be well tempted to generate melodies
(which i struggled with when i was last makimg tracks) and
then fuzzy them with field recorded stuff / found sounds in
wavelab or whatever. liking what i hear though


 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-07 20:34 [#02560697]
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Thatll be Chiang Mai, part of korg gadget.

belb, I made a similar patch that manipulated samples years
back, I'll have a look for it and see if I can do some
tracks.


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2018-09-07 21:00 [#02560698]
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sounds good mengbro!


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-07 22:25 [#02560699]
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are there gates/duration on any of those instrument or just
on/off on a stepsequenece step style?


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-07 22:26 [#02560700]
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I'm tryna figure out the patch, whilst admitedly slightly
drunk


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-07 22:40 [#02560701]
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most fun i've had all day hah!


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-07 22:45 [#02560703]
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personally i think generative/random remix systems are great
as long as they always give u the data in some format that
can be precisely edited at the end. Get so many fun tunes
out of these systems and then you want to string them
together, or go in and change a single pitch somewhere, it's
not happening. Although here it could because u could record
the midi, but the setup is still 4 sheets to the wind.


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-07 22:47 [#02560704]
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But i suppose that is a lot of perceived romance of
generative things - that it is 'in the monent', one off, ...
well yeah, but I want to edit stuff too


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-07 22:51 [#02560705]
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BUt if u make a track in the moment and record it and it's
perfect, how is that any different...??? GAH... Heh... uknow


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2018-09-08 13:48 [#02560724]
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Good informations, thanks for the diagrams Indy!


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2018-09-08 18:05 [#02560728]
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how did ya sort out the titles?


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2018-09-08 18:16 [#02560729]
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O Q B F H P M N Z W X D N G F K

is the only one i like so far


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2018-09-08 18:23 [#02560730]
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yeah N I O O T S E J is pretty cool as well


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2018-09-08 18:23 [#02560731]
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you know i like this mood


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2018-09-08 18:24 [#02560732]
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incedibly deep harmonies in there, makes me wonder its made
by a machine


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2018-09-08 18:27 [#02560733]
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funny sounds in track 9, made me smile


 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-09 14:09 [#02560757]
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Track titles are randomly generated, 8 characters for one
version of the patch, 16 characters for the other, older
version. The album alternates between the two. They're from
the seed generator I started to make for the patch so you
could repeat songs but ended up not using.

The album title has the word pareidolia in it, every other
character.


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2018-09-10 00:41 [#02560779]
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I still have 4 of your Eps on my super old iPod I listen to


 


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