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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-04 22:06 [#02550747]
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"The collapse made the old 7 World Trade Center the first tall building known to have collapsed primarily due to uncontrolled fires, and at the time, the only steel skyscraper in the world to have collapsed due to fire"
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freqy
on 2018-05-07 03:32 [#02550918]
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and the CIA building wt7 was very well made. bomb proof.
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freqy
on 2018-05-10 23:44 [#02551190]
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Just saw a video where you can see low frequency oscillation going up the building. And a man blown out of a window from a possible explosion?
video footage. >
do not click if you are easily upset
man blown out a window from an explosion?
shockwave going up through the floors?
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freqy
on 2018-05-10 23:59 [#02551191]
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I also found that the lower floors had much thicker steel than the top levels
(which makes sense)
The top levels that initially fell had only 1/72 of the mass that is contained in
all the floors below that section.
There are 7 large cubes above ground that make up each tower
no.7 cube , top 14 floors 97-110, only 1/4 inch thick steel no.6 cube , 16 floors 81-96 1/2 inch no.5 cube, 16 floors 65-80 1 inch.
carry on down like this to....
no.1 cube (ground) is 5 inch thick steel
Basement cube is 6 inch thick steel.
The top level steel was 1/20th the thickness from the ground cube.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-11 00:02 [#02551192]
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this sounds far out but ive never seen witnesses say that the second plane had no markings
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freqy
on 2018-05-11 00:10 [#02551194]
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why did they not give it markings?
surly they could have.
If it was remotely controlled, they designed the thing.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-11 00:14 [#02551195]
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It shows either witnesses are generally unreliable or the official story isn't true,
I guess if something is flying very fast people have a hard time identifying what they are seeing, I didn't know quite a few people said it didn't resemble a normal airliner though
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freqy
on 2018-05-11 00:14 [#02551196]
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allot of these things appear half thought out, or intentionally so to confuse and disorientate.
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freqy
on 2018-05-11 00:17 [#02551197]
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like finding a passport of a man, street level, blown out the plane/tower then the news immediately claiming it was the hijacker. : /
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-11 00:18 [#02551198]
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yeah what makes questioning the whole thing in a reasonable manner so hard is that there is so many people presenting alternative evidence and it becomes a real chore to weed through the chaff to get to something that isn't somebodies fantasy.
As far as im concerned the main thing that throws suspicion on the mainstream account is WTC 7, even of you believe everything else has a reasonable explanation WTC 7 is incredibly weird. Skyscrapers dont fall down because of fires, they usually at least burn for a very long time into a complete shell
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freqy
on 2018-05-11 00:20 [#02551199]
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or nist saying no evidence of explosions. when we know there is plenty of evidence.
even the janitor said there was a bang before the 1st plane hit.
he walk out the basement and found a man with his skin hanging off.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-11 00:21 [#02551200]
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yes I think I remember when it happened them mentioning explosions on the live coverage
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freqy
on 2018-05-11 00:22 [#02551201]
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yeah, steel is very strong. so why did they collapse into a pool of molten metal?
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freqy
on 2018-05-11 00:24 [#02551202]
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-11 00:25 [#02551203]
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also the lobby looked like a large explosion had occurred there
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freqy
on 2018-05-11 00:27 [#02551204]
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i thought an engine from the plane fell through the elevator shaft
bomb before first plane hit?
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-11 00:32 [#02551205]
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I think they said it was fuel from the plane created a fire ball, but that wouldn't add up as this is only one service elevator that extended the entire height of the building, most have separate lobbys at regular intervals on the way up to join other elevators, also the amount of fuel would be negligible if it was able to reach the lobby
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freqy
on 2018-05-11 00:41 [#02551206]
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Where are the black box flight recorders that can withstand any crash?
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freqy
on 2018-05-11 00:42 [#02551207]
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They are orange box now.
flight 93 was the only one found intact and was not released.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-11 00:43 [#02551208]
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I think they did but not vitally important one like pilot voice, yet they recovered the terrorist passports!
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freqy
on 2018-05-11 00:45 [#02551209]
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neither plane that hit the towers had their box found.
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freqy
on 2018-05-11 00:45 [#02551210]
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-11 00:46 [#02551211]
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John Farmer, Jr., senior counsel to the Commission, stated that the Commission “discovered that...what government and military officials had told Congress, the Commission, the media, and the public about who knew what when—was almost entirely, and inexplicably, untrue.”
Farmer continues: “At some level of the government, at some point in time… there was a decision not to tell the truth about what happened.... The (NORAD) tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public.” Commission head Kean concurred: “We to this day don’t know why NORAD told us what they told us, it was just so far from the truth.”
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-11 00:47 [#02551212]
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shit that's really grim, finding bones constantly
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freqy
on 2018-05-11 00:50 [#02551213]
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so it could have been the quakers then, using holographic planes and Thermate
: /
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freqy
on 2018-05-11 00:53 [#02551214]
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strange confusion
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freqy
on 2018-05-11 00:54 [#02551215]
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must have been a lunch box
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-11 00:57 [#02551216]
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shit that's weird when the anchor says a black box has been found, then technical difficulties, and then next minute "oops I was wrong"
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freqy
on 2018-05-11 01:06 [#02551217]
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van with depiction of attack same day before attack
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freqy
on 2018-05-11 01:07 [#02551218]
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two suspects under arrest, the van exploded??
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-11 01:11 [#02551220]
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that seems a bit of a silly thing to paint on the side of your truck if you're part of a conspiracy
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-11 01:13 [#02551221]
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freqy
on 2018-05-11 01:13 [#02551222]
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youve prob seen this
bbc reporting collapse wtc7 (Salomon Brothers. CIA) before it happens
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-11 01:14 [#02551223]
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I think the only information we know that is incontrovertibly true is that two planes hit the world trade centre and exploded and as a result 3 buildings fell down, everything else is up for questions I think, especially since you cant take what the media/government for face value
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freqy
on 2018-05-11 01:15 [#02551224]
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"that seems a bit of a silly thing to paint on the side of your truck if you're part of a conspiracy "
yeah, i think it is to confuse, so nothing adds up.
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freqy
on 2018-05-11 01:15 [#02551225]
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allot more than three wtc1 2 3 4 5 6 7
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-11 01:17 [#02551226]
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weren't the smaller ones crushed by the two towers? I don't know
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freqy
on 2018-05-11 01:18 [#02551227]
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wtc7 is top right behind the reporter
omg watch the video, then they report it actually collapsing many minutes later.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-11 01:19 [#02551228]
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also I don't think a building can collapse like that (wtc 7) without having the correct columns destroyed simultaneously, it was too neat, it didn't subside or go down in stages it just pancaked
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freqy
on 2018-05-11 01:19 [#02551229]
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did you see the bbc footage?
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-11 01:21 [#02551230]
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yeah the building is right behind her head, I can understand making mistakes as it was a day of mass confusion, but saying an entire building had collapsed, before it actually collapsed, what the hell is going on there!
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-11 01:23 [#02551231]
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freqy
on 2018-05-11 01:26 [#02551232]
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then toward the end of the video they report again its fall, and it then does fall.
no doubt the bbc reporters were told to report it had fallen by their BBC boss.
yet no one knew it would fall ..and it hadn’t at that point.
result, confusion dred? powerless.
check out how the air force stood down on 9/11.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-11 01:28 [#02551233]
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yes I remember they were having a massive military exercise somewhere so the usual protocols weren't observed, very convenient
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freqy
on 2018-05-11 01:29 [#02551234]
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highly defended air space around and in new york.
normally those planes would have been shot down. As they took an irregular route.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-11 01:30 [#02551235]
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did you see the video I posted freqy of the dutch demolitions expert, apparently he died in a car crash 3 days after that vid as well
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freqy
on 2018-05-11 01:31 [#02551236]
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the so called terrorists had control of the air force?
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-11 01:34 [#02551237]
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well its just one of a number of coincidences which tries to enable the official account to make some sort of sense,
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freqy
on 2018-05-11 01:35 [#02551238]
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yes seen video.
set up for demolition whilst on fire. requiring 30 men to set the incendiaries.
not possible.
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freqy
on 2018-05-11 01:36 [#02551239]
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it must have been ready to go.
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