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is birdsong music?
 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2018-02-18 12:42 [#02544511]
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this is pretty much all i've been thinking about for the
past 10 years. it's driving me crazy


 

offline RussellDust on 2018-02-18 13:04 [#02544514]
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Yes it is, if that’s how you hear it.. Tolstoyed! (Nice to
see you)


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2018-02-18 13:21 [#02544517]
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Normal answer: sure yeah

Dipshit's answer: it depends on how much of "music" is just
"the voluntary production of sound" and how much is
implicate in the human cultural context that gives the sound
meaning and relevance.


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2018-02-18 13:43 [#02544518]
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im siding with the dipshit answer


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2018-02-18 13:45 [#02544519]
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i mean, the birds dont come out and play like a band would
do. its their communication. they dont mean to do music.


 

offline mermaidman on 2018-02-18 14:09 [#02544520]
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maybe they communicate in music, like two or more jazz
musicians improvising together. maybe they don't care to
communicate words like care or... things.


 

offline RussellDust on 2018-02-18 16:09 [#02544523]
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It’s like that eternal question asking what art is. It’s
subjective to the listener, or person viewing the
“art”.

Some will say that art is such if the artist says so, which
I don’t necessarily agree; but yeah I don’t think the
birds are “making music”, but we don’t know for sure.


 

offline RussellDust on 2018-02-18 16:11 [#02544524]
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And we could argue the fact that music is
communication
.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2018-02-18 16:30 [#02544525]
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did u know charlie parker was nick named "bird"

make's u thimk


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2018-02-18 17:33 [#02544529]
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The composer Messiaen famously was heavily inspired by
birdsong in his music.


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2018-02-18 18:28 [#02544531]
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you dont sing or make duets with others to communicate


 

offline RussellDust on 2018-02-18 18:30 [#02544532]
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I beg to differ!


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2018-02-19 12:03 [#02544561]
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yeah i can picture you jumping around and singing like a
sparrow at home with your wife


 


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