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if it wasnt for the wig i wouldnt know if it was a parody |
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parody? so she not real? hehe, i know just kiddin. |
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i didnt know feminism was in need of parody o_O half of the youth is still being suggested being pretty should be the only thing important for them |
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And the other half being told that they're gay and/or gender dysmorphic, amirite!?!?!? |
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Feminism has so many sub genres now, it’s silly. Anyway, truth is not in one place. |
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yes everything is very polarised online it seems, either your a chauvinist pig or a feminist Nazi. I purposely stay out of the debate as I have nothing to offer, suppose its one of those issues that has been going on from time immemorial |
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those right wing mongs and social justice warriors are just two sides of the same mode of thinking as far as I'm concerned, people who think in absolute terms and don't appreciate the subtlety of complex issues. |
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My mum had that terrible day time program on called loose women, and how they were saying that grid girls on formula one is old-fashioned and sexist same with darts girls, and they were saying they are just there to sexy up the event which is true. Then the next guest that came on was some model looking bloke and they were joking about his crotch and laughing like a group of harpies, their lack of self awareness was quite amazing |
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(didn't watch the vidya, sorry) i hate the hating on feminism. also this internet debate is just attacking straw men they make of both sides. for maximum drama i do pretty much identify as a sjw ^_^ |
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I like a bird with hairy armpits wearing a dark vest and a pair of shorts, a bit like Laura Croft to be honest. I don't even mind if she hasn't showered in the last couple of days, I'd still give her a portion. And if that doesn't make me a feminist ally, I don't know what does. |
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haha a portion |
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I welcome feminism as long as it doesn't descended into misandry and it is a genuine effort to rebalance real inequalities |
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I myself lean towards pain, suffering, cultural ignorance, pitiless capitalism, slavery, mass depression, and loss of self identity . |
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i believe that's team neoliberalism. it has everything that's not feminist and other good things, isn't that handy =) mr. LOL is one of the good non-feminists |
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so you have been listening to fitter happier by radiohead as well? |
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#metoo |
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so i read (listened to, in fact) Fire and Fury, by Michael Wolff one of the most surprising facts in it is that Steve Bannon's favorite paper is The Guardian (i come up with this now because when I wanted to know what neoliberalism is, I read a slew of articles on it on The Guardian, including one that says one of the goals of neoliberalism is to make us all lonely and depressed) and I guess that ties in with that I can't help liking Bannon a bit (just like Wolff, actually, I learnt from an interview): like so many, like me, he wants to overhaul the system. he just wants to overhaul it to something I (probably) don't want at all (probably, because I'm pretty sure, but you can never be totally sure until the moment is there, just like we didn't know exactly what Trump wanted) |
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I read about 100 pages in, but I thought i'll wait until some definite books come out when everything has straightened itself out, its interesting to live through a particularly important part of political history. |
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and I guess that ties in with that I can't help liking Bannon a bit (just like Wolff, actually, I learnt from an interview) At least it's an ethos! It's interesting how neoliberalism has assimilated most of the themes and terms of identity politics. The question is how it will be able to do the same with the neoreactionary right and even Bannonism. I'm guessing some form of Oprahfication, self help for pepes. I'm interested in |
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i feel you gotta keep up Fire and Fury will be Trumped again by a big Russia trial politically it's not *really* important to know though, more on a human level |
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Its scary and weird how chaotic things are at the top, you always get these feeling when you young that things are perfectly stable and expertly professional, reading part of the book the impression is the blind leading the blind, or the very incompetent guiding the totally incompetent, and you realise how much power these cretins potentially wields it utterly nuts. Its a international scale equivalent of when a small child gets their parents car keys and drives off down the motorway, untold damage will be done |
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it makes the news very interesting though, its a deep insight to how everything works |
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so i lost a lot of Facebookfriends over the identity politics thing. i'll explain it as shortly as possible: here in the Netherlands righties say 'stop importing' the black lives matter stuff from the US, kind of glossing over we also have a dark past, shipping slaves, having colonies. so i can abide by people being uneducated and i can abide by them being wrong (that is: not as lefty as me), but combined that's just too much and i just unfriend them. also because my Facebook is not a public forum. (so for the boring personal stuff) (yes at fleet's "At least it's an ethos! and lol etc at rest) |
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i did make this Facebookpost about this: "Fire and Fury is mostly about the inner workings of Trump's White House. Watching interviews with author Michael Wolff, I understand I'm supposed to draw the conclusion it's working bad. I don't completely disagree, but also feel Trump's White House (dys)functions a lot like most of the places I've worked at." by which I mean politics is just human work yes, the times are interesting I read No Is Not Enough, by Naomi Klein. she says, and I agree, Trump is a result, not a cause. I totally recommend the book. it's party for Trump addicts like us, part about how 'disaster capitalism' work and part about the solutions (softie solutions, but I'm afraid that's all we've got?) |
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yes he is a symptom not the root cause |
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not to say I think much better of the democrats either, they would be right of the conservatives I guess if they were in the UK |
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democrats are completely bought by wall street, it's criminal republicans are just worse in that they're maybe more bought by billionaires? i have zero sympathy anymore for the argument you should have voted Clinton to have kept out Trump. that's been going on for decades and part of why we're in this mess. besides wall street it's just this politics of trying to get on with everyone. partly that's good, because that *is* politics, but mostly that's gone way too far |
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yes the interests of the common man on the street are well down on the list of priorities I guess, I think Trump resonated with the drain the swamp spiel, well his campaign manager did well to use those soundbytes, it goes down well with someone who doesn't have much of a capacity for critical thinking, just a shame he is essentially the creature from the black lagoon as far as swamps go |
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totally if I'm calling the democrats criminal, crooked Trump is in another stratosphere above that, of course i hope the voter learns a bit from it the democrats (the dnc) sure seem to have not learnt, though, though who knows, maybe they'll put forth a decent candidate |
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I can empathise with them as they are being constantly bombarded by thinly veiled propaganda, and attack adds, you sort of have to go out of your way to get something that even beings to approximate the truth, its very obscured in most political systems |
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like something straight out of robocop |
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it's so terrible it's perfect still wouldn't mind too much if the nra got banned, but probably shouldn't think that, because then stuff I like will get banned too. in a democracy I can say 'screw the NRA to hell', though it's perfectly terrible because it's this brand thing Klein also talks about (in no Logo and No Is Not Enough): the brand is just a feeling, completely dissociated from the product. |
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the democrats (the dnc) sure seem to have not learnt, though, though who knows, maybe they'll put forth a decent candidate did you see how they got a spittle mouthed Kennedy mutant to deliver their SOTU rebuttal, they haven't learned a damn thing, they'll be running fricking Chelsea Clinton in 2024 if not 2020 |
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so it turns out the subreddit that i thought was mocking neoliberalism, is actually for it, just the original meaning https://www.reddit.com/r/neoliberal/comments/7usy48/the_mem of it: o_the_gop_doesnt_want_you_to_see/dtof0cv?context=2 having a slight identity crisis now. just hope you can be a neoliberal and socialist at the same time |
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xlt on mobile.. |
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My online dating profile simply reads "Yes, I have read the Kamasutra. Unabridged." |
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Individual choice and markets are of paramount importance both as an expression of individual liberty and driving force of economic prosperity It's this ahistorical, utopian sense that context doesn't matter that really gives it away - let's ignore the nature of the choices, that one man is choosing between rent and pain medicine for his dying wife, and another man is choosing between a big boat and a bigger boat. "The law, in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal their bread." - Anatole France |
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the side bar is probably why i thought it was a parody sub i still think it is half a parody sub, just like the_donald was for a short time, before alt right was invented |
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what's the short version? |
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*seven kids |
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i got confused and included him 7 +1 ...genuine mistake. |
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but read the conversation further down and i want to finish reading thing that's in the side bar. afaik the founders of neoliberalism weren't Ayn Rands, and I can believe neoliberalism means two things: a decent economic model as well as the name for the shit economics being shoved down our throats did I mention I'm reading Varoufakis? in a foot note he says: the way the 'silver ware' of Greece was being put on sale dirt cheap would have made Thatcher shiver', meaning the neoliberalism of today wouldn't even fly with Thatcher |
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sorry i haven’t read anything in here . hope i didn't disturb your conversation. i haven’t the focus tonight for anything. tnx |
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that's okay i didn't watch the video because i thought it might be depressing? |
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