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Too Much Music
 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2018-01-16 16:14 [#02542458]
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It has been said that we are living in a golden age of
music fandom; with a single click, we can access almost
every piece of music ever recorded, and for less than it
would cost to hear a single song on a jukebox in 1955. But
I've begun to feel that my rabid consumption of music, when
coupled with the unprecedented access encouraged by new
technology, has endangered my ability to process it
critically.


A Failed Experiment In Dedicated Listening


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-01-16 16:52 [#02542461]
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yes time is finite, I must admit embarrassingly not to
listen to any new music at all, I don't know if its age, or
a bias against new stuff, it doesn't seem to hold the same
appeal to me. I do listen to new stuff by peoples I already
like however.


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2018-01-16 19:35 [#02542470]
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i'll admit to listening with less care and attention to full
albums than i used to. having a data cap on my phone
internob does limit it somewhat but i'll quite often be
reading something on the kindle app or playing a couple of
games of chess while i listen. mind you, that article has
made me revisit oversteps, albeit posting this at the same
time


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2018-01-16 22:13 [#02542484]
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I'm cyclical, I go on new music binges, I think I listen to
less music overall when I'm not on a new music binge. Yeah I
put my library on shuffle or place a "compact disk" in the
"speakers box". One album for a whole week though, that's
punishing.

speaking of punishment we should start a gofundme to get
belb's bandwidth cap raised

ok who else started hunting for Screamers Bangers and Cosmic
Synths after reading the article

also I found this on a pitch fork best electronic
of 2017 list it's pretty great


 

offline welt on 2018-01-17 20:10 [#02542496]
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I couldn't finish reading the article. I mean: What the
fuck? You want to listen to music and you feel bad because
you don't do so? Just fucking sit down and listen to it.
There's NO ONE stopping you from it. It's literally as easy
as turning on the switch on the computer/stereo and then
sitting down and then listening to it.

But instead of doing just that he comes up with absurd,
super-complicated rules of listening only to 1 artist/week.
And then ... oh, surprise ... he fails.

..... I actually have the impression that people lose
interest in active music listening because their
personalties do in fact develop
but their listening
habits gets stuck in the past
. ... How can you be 40 and
be as excited about testorene-driven HipHop or Punk-Rock
that excites a 16 year old? It won't be possible. They
should welcome progress and mature and discover the wild and
exciting depths of Greogrian Chant and Iranian tar music.
...


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2018-01-17 20:23 [#02542497]
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you can be excited about the past (and its outlook on the
future) and enjoy gregorian chants or iranian music.
you can be maturely excited, too. whatever rocks your boat.


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2018-01-17 20:24 [#02542498]
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re: Iranian tar music

Link a youtube to some of that please



 

offline welt on 2018-01-17 20:32 [#02542499]
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setar

tar

Enjoy (hopefully :O )!


 

offline welt on 2018-01-17 20:37 [#02542500]
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Sure. I'm not saying you should go to the extreme of
abandoning your past. But I think it's probably for most
people more exciting when they continue to develop new
interests.

It's just an observation I made when it comes to my friends.
Those who are not passionate about music anymore are those
whose tastes developed in their early 20s and who now still
listen to the same styles but less often and with less
excitement. ... And then they complain that music is boring
and not as exciting as they were young anymore. .... But
they are not the same persons anymore. ..


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2018-01-18 01:27 [#02542510]
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that's awesome, I found one where he was playing a bowed
thing, he has incredible intonation and phrasing


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2018-01-18 02:57 [#02542511]
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So, I bought a new car in 2016 that was both the first
new car I've ever owned, and the first with bluetooth
audio. My phone provider lets me stream Google Play music
without counting against my data cap, and these 2 factors
combined to give me unprecedented shuffle play of the more
than 8,000 songs in my music library. Something about being
captive in my car gave me room to explore. Anywhere else was
like Belb said, listening with less care and attention.

At first, it was a new golden age for my music appreciation.
I had songs on my hard drive that I had never even listened
to before, at least not consciously. I felt shameful. I
began a journey of un-rediscovery and finally put ear to
airwave on songs I should have been listening to, and
enjoying, for years. I felt like I was getting to know a
family member I had ignored, or something.

But over time, I began skipping things I didn't know in
order to find something I'd recognize. This is how it is,
most days now. It's like I no longer have the patience for
new music and just want the gratification of the familiar. I
had been hoarding music so long I missed the memo that it
was no longer necessary to download mp3s, and by the time I
stopped to count the haul, I scarcely wanted it. What's the
use, anyway, of having so many songs and listening to so few
of them?

I don't think there's Too Much Music; I think I've just run
out of passion for being surprised or disappointed by any of
it. Listening to new music requires effort and carries risk
of disappointment, which taken to an end means giving effort
for disappointment. What's left is a Greatest Hits, with all
the same excitement. And so I'll play Port Rhombus for the
400th time.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2018-01-18 03:49 [#02542512]
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maybe you were downloading indiscriminately and a lot of
your haul was shit?

mainly what I'm looking for in new music is new ideas, novel
compositional strategies. I could easily download thousands
of "new" tracks that are just slight variations on the same
old ideas and I'd hate it all

check this out, qrter brought this to my attention
a while back it is great


 

offline welt on 2018-01-18 11:59 [#02542514]
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Great that you like it. That's a kamancheh he was
playing, I guess.

I'm also interested how you liked it, umbroman ... (& I
won't be offended if you consider it the worst music you
ever head)


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2018-01-18 19:35 [#02542521]
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Does "familiarity breed contempt" or is "to know you is
to love you"? In this research, we explore the role of
familiarity in music choice. We show that although consumers
say they would prefer to listen to unfamiliar music, in
actuality familiarity with music positively predicts
preference for songs, play lists, and radio stations.
Familiarity with music is at least as good, if not a better,
predictor of choice as are liking, satiation (which actually
positively predicts choice), and regret. We suggest that the
need for familiarity is driven by consumers' low need for
stimulation in the music domain, and show that when the need
for stimulation decreases, the power of familiarity
significantly increases. In addition to their theoretical
contribution, these results are informative for music
managers determining playlists, for the promotion of music
events and products, and for advertisers selecting the most
potentially lucrative music venues.


link

I recall newer articles that referenced a different study
but can't find them atm


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2018-01-18 19:47 [#02542522]
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fleetmouse you really want people to read lately


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2018-01-18 19:52 [#02542523]
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I'll grant an exemption in your case, see me in my office
after class to earn "extra credit"


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2018-01-18 19:53 [#02542525]
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hahahaha


 

offline welt on 2018-01-18 19:56 [#02542526]
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What I really want to know is whether plants enjoy
music. But the research is very sketchy and dubious


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2018-01-19 13:16 [#02542565]
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I bet plants have horrible taste, they probably like Andre
Rieu


 

offline welt on 2018-01-19 15:23 [#02542574]
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I too suspect that the full results about the musical
preferences of plants would be pretty frustrating.

When I look at cows, how they calmly and meditavely graze, I
speculate about how awesome their taste in music has to be.
But the facts are so different. THIS is what they
enjoy


 

offline welt on 2018-01-19 15:25 [#02542575]
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But don't get me wrong, I'm happy for the cows


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2018-01-19 15:40 [#02542583]
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How did I know it was going to be bal musette kind of stuff?
I'm partial to that music myself, I may have a little cow in
me, as you might say.

Also when they run towards him I had a moment of panic like
run you idiot, don't you realize those are cows?!


 

offline welt on 2018-01-19 20:25 [#02542664]
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How did you know? Telepathy, I guess. ... Since this thread
already contains links to studies: Cambridge University
funded biologists to conduct this empricial
research which suggests that telepathy is real


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2018-01-19 21:19 [#02542666]
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hey, take it to the x files thread buddy


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2018-01-19 21:48 [#02542675]
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too much of everything really...
you remember that saying of folks ever wanting to do this or
that,
but now there too old?



 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2018-01-20 02:05 [#02542680]
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it's possible that instead of predicting who's calling,
people are selecting from a superposition of multiple
possible universes and collapsing the wave function to the
desired eigenstate. Hello, yes this is cow


 

offline welt on 2018-01-20 12:59 [#02542684]
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Well, yes, why would anyone accept a perfectly simple and
straightforward explanation such as telepathy .. when
instead one could just posit the existence of a multitude -
potentially even an infinite multitude - of different
complete universes which manipulate each other in myriad
ways, Mr. Cow ?


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2018-01-20 13:30 [#02542685]
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Why not both? You still need Mind Powers to choose a state
and collapse the wave function. There's a great Greg Egan
novel called Quarantine that uses this as a plot device. The
Kindle edition is $3. moo


 

offline RussellDust on 2018-02-21 18:29 [#02544707]
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Telepathy... I think it’s a part of the « Intuition
Umbrella Project » for now.

I truly believe that as a species we were closer to, and
more aware of these “other “ senses at certain points
in history.

The true intuition, that state of knowing, past and beyond
any of the five senses, is lush.



 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2018-02-21 19:31 [#02544724]
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telephathy does not exist


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2018-02-21 19:33 [#02544725]
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less fashionable than your discourses, but maybe a bit
interesting to know to the little psychotic audience we have
here


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2018-02-21 19:35 [#02544726]
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there is no way through listening to your thoughts loudly


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2018-02-21 19:40 [#02544729]
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and fear that someone else can hear what you think! what a
disgrace.


 

offline RussellDust on 2018-02-21 19:40 [#02544730]
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Normally I’d argue my point, but I’m not gong to,
mohamed, and I hope you’re well!

Ok I can’t help it but say: I’m not talking about the
sort of telepathy you might be thinking of. I’m not
talking superhero movies.

Ok I’m in for it now.


 

offline RussellDust on 2018-02-21 19:42 [#02544731]
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If no one had anything to hide, I’m pretty sure we’d be
living in a more pleasant world. But yeah I get your point,
which is an important one.


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2018-02-21 19:45 [#02544732]
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im not ashamed to say i cant escape shit thoughts even if i
have nothing to hide. maybe something to say.


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2018-02-21 19:51 [#02544733]
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to add the experience to the theory i can tell you ive been
through that very same mental condition and i can assure you
its like living in hell


 

offline RussellDust on 2018-02-21 19:54 [#02544736]
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You mean you hid nothing, you went “Candide”?

Yes in a sick society, today, it must take great humility to
keep on being honest and open; but what if everyone was also
doing the same?


 

offline RussellDust on 2018-02-21 19:55 [#02544737]
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Are you ashamed of your shit thoughts? Is that why you want
them private?


 

offline RussellDust on 2018-02-21 19:56 [#02544739]
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Sorry I answered your posts from last to second to last. I
feel weird.


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2018-02-21 19:56 [#02544740]
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my contribution end here R, this is not an interview, who
has to get it has got it


 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2018-02-21 22:52 [#02544763]
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Telepathy exists, I have experienced it.

Also I felt there was too much music for me to listen to
before this period of information overload. Now I just don't
think about it because it really is overwhelming so once in
a while i go on bandcamp and type in a random word thats
popped in to my head and download like 3 or 4 free releases
that crop up and listen to them.

Then at the end of the year I have a flick through a bunch
of best of lists and see if anything takes my fancy, trying
to keep up is impossible.


 


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