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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2018-01-16 16:14 [#02542458]
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It has been said that we are living in a golden age of music fandom; with a single click, we can access almost every piece of music ever recorded, and for less than it would cost to hear a single song on a jukebox in 1955. But I've begun to feel that my rabid consumption of music, when coupled with the unprecedented access encouraged by new technology, has endangered my ability to process it critically.
A Failed Experiment In Dedicated Listening
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-01-16 16:52 [#02542461]
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yes time is finite, I must admit embarrassingly not to listen to any new music at all, I don't know if its age, or a bias against new stuff, it doesn't seem to hold the same appeal to me. I do listen to new stuff by peoples I already like however.
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2018-01-16 19:35 [#02542470]
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i'll admit to listening with less care and attention to full albums than i used to. having a data cap on my phone internob does limit it somewhat but i'll quite often be reading something on the kindle app or playing a couple of games of chess while i listen. mind you, that article has made me revisit oversteps, albeit posting this at the same time
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2018-01-16 22:13 [#02542484]
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I'm cyclical, I go on new music binges, I think I listen to less music overall when I'm not on a new music binge. Yeah I put my library on shuffle or place a "compact disk" in the "speakers box". One album for a whole week though, that's punishing.
speaking of punishment we should start a gofundme to get belb's bandwidth cap raised
ok who else started hunting for Screamers Bangers and Cosmic Synths after reading the article
also I found this on a pitch fork best electronic of 2017 list it's pretty great
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welt
on 2018-01-17 20:10 [#02542496]
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I couldn't finish reading the article. I mean: What the fuck? You want to listen to music and you feel bad because you don't do so? Just fucking sit down and listen to it. There's NO ONE stopping you from it. It's literally as easy as turning on the switch on the computer/stereo and then sitting down and then listening to it.
But instead of doing just that he comes up with absurd, super-complicated rules of listening only to 1 artist/week. And then ... oh, surprise ... he fails.
..... I actually have the impression that people lose interest in active music listening because their personalties do in fact develop but their listening habits gets stuck in the past. ... How can you be 40 and be as excited about testorene-driven HipHop or Punk-Rock that excites a 16 year old? It won't be possible. They should welcome progress and mature and discover the wild and exciting depths of Greogrian Chant and Iranian tar music. ...
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2018-01-17 20:23 [#02542497]
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you can be excited about the past (and its outlook on the future) and enjoy gregorian chants or iranian music. you can be maturely excited, too. whatever rocks your boat.
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2018-01-17 20:24 [#02542498]
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re: Iranian tar music
Link a youtube to some of that please
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welt
on 2018-01-17 20:32 [#02542499]
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setar
tar
Enjoy (hopefully :O )!
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welt
on 2018-01-17 20:37 [#02542500]
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Sure. I'm not saying you should go to the extreme of abandoning your past. But I think it's probably for most people more exciting when they continue to develop new interests.
It's just an observation I made when it comes to my friends. Those who are not passionate about music anymore are those whose tastes developed in their early 20s and who now still listen to the same styles but less often and with less excitement. ... And then they complain that music is boring and not as exciting as they were young anymore. .... But they are not the same persons anymore. ..
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2018-01-18 01:27 [#02542510]
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that's awesome, I found one where he was playing a bowed thing, he has incredible intonation and phrasing
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2018-01-18 02:57 [#02542511]
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So, I bought a new car in 2016 that was both the first new car I've ever owned, and the first with bluetooth audio. My phone provider lets me stream Google Play music without counting against my data cap, and these 2 factors combined to give me unprecedented shuffle play of the more than 8,000 songs in my music library. Something about being captive in my car gave me room to explore. Anywhere else was like Belb said, listening with less care and attention.
At first, it was a new golden age for my music appreciation. I had songs on my hard drive that I had never even listened to before, at least not consciously. I felt shameful. I began a journey of un-rediscovery and finally put ear to airwave on songs I should have been listening to, and enjoying, for years. I felt like I was getting to know a family member I had ignored, or something.
But over time, I began skipping things I didn't know in order to find something I'd recognize. This is how it is, most days now. It's like I no longer have the patience for new music and just want the gratification of the familiar. I had been hoarding music so long I missed the memo that it was no longer necessary to download mp3s, and by the time I stopped to count the haul, I scarcely wanted it. What's the use, anyway, of having so many songs and listening to so few of them?
I don't think there's Too Much Music; I think I've just run out of passion for being surprised or disappointed by any of it. Listening to new music requires effort and carries risk of disappointment, which taken to an end means giving effort for disappointment. What's left is a Greatest Hits, with all the same excitement. And so I'll play Port Rhombus for the 400th time.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2018-01-18 03:49 [#02542512]
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maybe you were downloading indiscriminately and a lot of your haul was shit?
mainly what I'm looking for in new music is new ideas, novel compositional strategies. I could easily download thousands of "new" tracks that are just slight variations on the same old ideas and I'd hate it all
check this out, qrter brought this to my attention a while back it is great
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welt
on 2018-01-18 11:59 [#02542514]
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Great that you like it. That's a kamancheh he was playing, I guess.
I'm also interested how you liked it, umbroman ... (& I won't be offended if you consider it the worst music you ever head)
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2018-01-18 19:35 [#02542521]
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Does "familiarity breed contempt" or is "to know you is to love you"? In this research, we explore the role of familiarity in music choice. We show that although consumers say they would prefer to listen to unfamiliar music, in actuality familiarity with music positively predicts preference for songs, play lists, and radio stations. Familiarity with music is at least as good, if not a better, predictor of choice as are liking, satiation (which actually positively predicts choice), and regret. We suggest that the need for familiarity is driven by consumers' low need for stimulation in the music domain, and show that when the need for stimulation decreases, the power of familiarity significantly increases. In addition to their theoretical contribution, these results are informative for music managers determining playlists, for the promotion of music events and products, and for advertisers selecting the most potentially lucrative music venues.
link
I recall newer articles that referenced a different study but can't find them atm
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2018-01-18 19:47 [#02542522]
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fleetmouse you really want people to read lately
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2018-01-18 19:52 [#02542523]
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I'll grant an exemption in your case, see me in my office after class to earn "extra credit"
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2018-01-18 19:53 [#02542525]
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hahahaha
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welt
on 2018-01-18 19:56 [#02542526]
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What I really want to know is whether plants enjoy music. But the research is very sketchy and dubious
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2018-01-19 13:16 [#02542565]
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I bet plants have horrible taste, they probably like Andre Rieu
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welt
on 2018-01-19 15:23 [#02542574]
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I too suspect that the full results about the musical preferences of plants would be pretty frustrating.
When I look at cows, how they calmly and meditavely graze, I speculate about how awesome their taste in music has to be. But the facts are so different. THIS is what they enjoy
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welt
on 2018-01-19 15:25 [#02542575]
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But don't get me wrong, I'm happy for the cows
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2018-01-19 15:40 [#02542583]
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How did I know it was going to be bal musette kind of stuff? I'm partial to that music myself, I may have a little cow in me, as you might say.
Also when they run towards him I had a moment of panic like run you idiot, don't you realize those are cows?!
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welt
on 2018-01-19 20:25 [#02542664]
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How did you know? Telepathy, I guess. ... Since this thread already contains links to studies: Cambridge University funded biologists to conduct this empricial research which suggests that telepathy is real
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2018-01-19 21:19 [#02542666]
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hey, take it to the x files thread buddy
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2018-01-19 21:48 [#02542675]
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too much of everything really... you remember that saying of folks ever wanting to do this or that,
but now there too old?
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2018-01-20 02:05 [#02542680]
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it's possible that instead of predicting who's calling, people are selecting from a superposition of multiple possible universes and collapsing the wave function to the desired eigenstate. Hello, yes this is cow
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welt
on 2018-01-20 12:59 [#02542684]
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Well, yes, why would anyone accept a perfectly simple and straightforward explanation such as telepathy .. when instead one could just posit the existence of a multitude - potentially even an infinite multitude - of different complete universes which manipulate each other in myriad ways, Mr. Cow ?
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2018-01-20 13:30 [#02542685]
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Why not both? You still need Mind Powers to choose a state and collapse the wave function. There's a great Greg Egan novel called Quarantine that uses this as a plot device. The Kindle edition is $3. moo
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RussellDust
on 2018-02-21 18:29 [#02544707]
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Telepathy... I think it’s a part of the « Intuition Umbrella Project » for now.
I truly believe that as a species we were closer to, and more aware of these “other “ senses at certain points in history.
The true intuition, that state of knowing, past and beyond any of the five senses, is lush.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2018-02-21 19:31 [#02544724]
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telephathy does not exist
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2018-02-21 19:33 [#02544725]
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less fashionable than your discourses, but maybe a bit interesting to know to the little psychotic audience we have here
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2018-02-21 19:35 [#02544726]
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there is no way through listening to your thoughts loudly
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2018-02-21 19:40 [#02544729]
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and fear that someone else can hear what you think! what a disgrace.
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RussellDust
on 2018-02-21 19:40 [#02544730]
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Normally I’d argue my point, but I’m not gong to, mohamed, and I hope you’re well!
Ok I can’t help it but say: I’m not talking about the sort of telepathy you might be thinking of. I’m not talking superhero movies.
Ok I’m in for it now.
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RussellDust
on 2018-02-21 19:42 [#02544731]
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If no one had anything to hide, I’m pretty sure we’d be living in a more pleasant world. But yeah I get your point, which is an important one.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2018-02-21 19:45 [#02544732]
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im not ashamed to say i cant escape shit thoughts even if i have nothing to hide. maybe something to say.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2018-02-21 19:51 [#02544733]
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to add the experience to the theory i can tell you ive been through that very same mental condition and i can assure you its like living in hell
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RussellDust
on 2018-02-21 19:54 [#02544736]
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You mean you hid nothing, you went “Candide”?
Yes in a sick society, today, it must take great humility to keep on being honest and open; but what if everyone was also doing the same?
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RussellDust
on 2018-02-21 19:55 [#02544737]
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Are you ashamed of your shit thoughts? Is that why you want them private?
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RussellDust
on 2018-02-21 19:56 [#02544739]
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Sorry I answered your posts from last to second to last. I feel weird.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2018-02-21 19:56 [#02544740]
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my contribution end here R, this is not an interview, who has to get it has got it
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2018-02-21 22:52 [#02544763]
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Telepathy exists, I have experienced it.
Also I felt there was too much music for me to listen to before this period of information overload. Now I just don't think about it because it really is overwhelming so once in a while i go on bandcamp and type in a random word thats popped in to my head and download like 3 or 4 free releases that crop up and listen to them.
Then at the end of the year I have a flick through a bunch of best of lists and see if anything takes my fancy, trying to keep up is impossible.
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