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offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2018-01-12 13:34 [#02542246]
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Watching Blade Runner in 2017


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2018-01-12 16:14 [#02542248]
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nice article, i was maybe 10 when my mum first let me see
blade runner (rented vhs of the more audience-palatable cut)
and i remember being pretty shocked by that first
"retirement". i can still see the blood and the plate glass
in my mind's eye... one of my first Adult Films. wish i
could go back and see it all over again tbh


 

offline RussellDust on 2018-01-12 17:00 [#02542249]
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I remember watching it alone as a kid on tv. What first
struck me and has forever stayed is the
feel/mood/ambience/atmosphere. Visually it was a huge blast
for me. Then it was that intensity you felt with Deccard and
the other characters. It’s when I first realised that slow
was good, that a science fiction movie didn’t have to be
all action and fast editing.


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-01-12 18:17 [#02542258]
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yes that's the thing I got out of the film most was the
dream like atmosphere, its like a futuristic fairy tale in a
way


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2018-01-12 18:21 [#02542259]
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Yep. those recent 7/11 raids too......good article.


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2018-01-12 18:22 [#02542260]
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the soundtrack is something else... just the first bit of
dialogue on 'blush response' is amazing, gives me goosebumps


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-01-12 20:08 [#02542274]
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the score complements the film so well, its definitely my
favourite, i rarely listen to soundtracks of films, but i
listen to the bladerunner one loads


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-01-12 20:12 [#02542275]
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LAZY_TITLE

tangerine dream soundtrack to the keep is good as well


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2018-01-12 20:34 [#02542284]
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Belb and Dusty - it would be wild to have seen it for the
first time as a kid! Ah, to have those memories impressed in
a tender mind. I saw it when I was a teen and though it was
beautiful, I was annoyed that Han Solo was the main actor,
which took me out of the movie a bit. Also I was too thick
to pick up on all the nuances and themes until later
viewings.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2018-01-12 20:46 [#02542295]
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Exactly - one of the Blade Runner themes that is made more
explicit in Villeneuve's 2049 is nationalism - where you
come from determines your worth. If it's not out of a human
woman's hoo-ha, tough luck buddy. Doesn't matter what you
can do, think, or feel. You are your origins.


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-01-12 20:49 [#02542296]
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Its like a great veil has been lifted, and the pretense
that we know what we are doing as a human race is crooked
illusion.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2018-01-12 20:54 [#02542297]
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It's the most musical movie, for me - not only because of
the actual soundtrack, but because of the rhythms and
movements of the film, how the lush visuals mesh with the
incidental sound effects, and the stark contrast between all
that beauty and the darkness of the subject matter - a
poisoned world, the brutality of Deckard's job, his
alienation and solitude. Makes it all the more poignant. The
sequence after Rachel shoots Leon and they go back to
Deckard's apartment - such aesthetic and emotional overload.
The lighting, the way the exposure blows out when something
bright and floating moves past the window. I don't fully
agree with the article's assessment of their relationship -
by the end of the movie he's entirely invested in her
personhood. It's a tragedy, not a satire. (talking about the
final cut, here)


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-01-12 21:03 [#02542298]
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yes its an article, written from a contemporary view, you
get the feeling she is equating Deckard with Harvey
Weinstein


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2018-01-12 21:17 [#02542299]
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I mean, she's not entirely wrong - there's an imbalance of
power, she's a slave and he's a master (maybe). When he
first discovers she's a replicant he sees her as a thing -
"how can it not know what it is?" he asks Tyrell. He has
contempt and then pity for her the first time she shows up
at his apartment to plead her case that she's real. Their
first sexual encounter is quasi-rape. But his experience of
her as a thinking feeling person humanizes her. At least I
like to think so. This ties in with a major theme of the
movie, that perceiving someone (even yourself) as a person
is what makes personhood. This is what's behind the constant
eye motif in the film.


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-01-12 21:20 [#02542300]
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Yes i get a bit uncomfortable, when he holds her and tells
her what to say in the love scene. When I was young I was
viewing the film entirely from Deckard's point of view, when
your older you realise he is a washed out, alcoholic,
hardened killer.


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-01-12 21:22 [#02542301]
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I like it when he comes to the realisation that Rachel isnt
just a machine when he tries to spare her feelings when he
mentions she has the memories of Tyrell's niece. If he was
beyond redemption he wouldn't have bothered


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2018-01-13 15:19 [#02542336]
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That's right, I think that's when it first becomes apparent
to him that she's not an automaton, that she has subjective
experience and isn't what they call a "philosophical zombie"
with no inner life. Later on after she shoots Leon he says
to her "Shakes? Yeah I get 'em too" so he's starting to
identify with her.


 


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