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RussellDust
on 2017-12-22 12:38 [#02540543]
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Surely you have an opinion on what’s going on. No?
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-12-22 13:41 [#02540544]
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I sort of do, but its kind of hard to encapsulate a many centuries old disagreement. I know its a cop out, but as far as I can see it they are both in the wrong, Israel acts against international law constantly, and Hamas stir the shit up so its a vicious circle,
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-12-22 16:28 [#02540545]
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Too much emotion evolved in the entire process, shame things that actually matter will never be resolved by reasonable people. Israel declaring Jerusalem its capital I don't really see as an issue as its a fact of realpolitik.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2017-12-22 17:40 [#02540546]
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you know you care Monoid, its the holy earth
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2017-12-22 17:49 [#02540549]
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sorry holy land
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2017-12-22 22:37 [#02540564]
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Nah, i just don't like antisemitism and racism. People should get over it.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2017-12-22 23:34 [#02540566]
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the israelis are not racist, it is a left wing myth, they have ultras like all societies, on the other hand palestinians are resentful, but im not sure how that makes them antisemites because i cant understand arab and couldnt dig deep into conversations.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2017-12-22 23:39 [#02540567]
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you know what i really dislike, reading stuff like 'you will pay the price' coming out of palestinian mouths.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2017-12-22 23:46 [#02540568]
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if only god had eyes, it wouldnt be the jews those who have to pay
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Cliff Glitchard
from DEEP DOWN INSIDE on 2017-12-23 17:12 [#02540596]
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If only there was a god.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2017-12-23 18:49 [#02540600]
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if there was a god everybody could see that the whole social bubble built around the palestinian cause its a sad, fake truth that hides way more brutal realities that r on the ground.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2017-12-23 18:50 [#02540601]
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i'll leave it at that.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2017-12-23 18:55 [#02540602]
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sad, fake and serve of a few
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2017-12-23 18:56 [#02540603]
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and stigmatized
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2017-12-23 23:32 [#02540638]
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Israel and palestine. Arabs and jews. We need peace. We need to overcome racism and antisemtism. Please stop it now, lets move on. Humanity needs to focus on more important things. Im a dreamer i know, but maybe one day you will join me, bla bla
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mermaidman
on 2017-12-23 23:46 [#02540639]
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monoid, my friend, don't even try. this is no place to make sense. at least it's good comedy when someone called mohamed is being racist to arabs on the internet. thinking about it, he might be a troll. but also he might not be, which makes it even funnier.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-12-23 23:57 [#02540640]
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LAZY_TITLE
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-12-24 00:01 [#02540641]
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I cant stand that boteach guy, its dickheads like him and hamas that are the problem
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mermaidman
on 2017-12-24 00:10 [#02540642]
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boteach guy is the one on the left, right? i don't care for how extreme he is but the guy countering him, would you say that he is right? that the jews deserved the holocaust?
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-12-24 00:14 [#02540643]
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sorry i didnt watch the vid cos the boteach guy was shouting, it was interesting that two rabbis were so diametrically opposed
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-12-24 00:15 [#02540644]
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He really said they deserved the holocaust? a rabbi said that, find that hard to believe
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-12-24 00:16 [#02540645]
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if thats what he said, then he must be a nutter
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-12-24 00:18 [#02540646]
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I think that is one of the tactics that the more extreme zionists use to brow beat ideological opponents. Accuse them of being anti semitic or holocaust deniers, when they bring up something like the IDF use of white phosphorus or something like that.
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mermaidman
on 2017-12-24 00:20 [#02540647]
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yeah he says hitler was the stick in gods hand that beat zionists that deserved it :)
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-12-24 00:23 [#02540648]
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That's a pretty evil thing to say, there is nothing anyone could every do to deserve anything remotely as bad as the holocaust, if anything is the definition of unjustifiable it is that
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mermaidman
on 2017-12-24 00:24 [#02540649]
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extreme left view what do you guys know about it that it just doesn't sound sane to you? i'm really curious cause i want to know if i missed anything.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-12-24 00:25 [#02540650]
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LAZY_TITLE
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mermaidman
on 2017-12-24 00:26 [#02540651]
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of course other than you have to get armed and kill right wing cause that's not even left ideology.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-12-24 00:27 [#02540652]
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dont know how they could artistion the two state when Israel and palestine both claim Jerusalem as their capital, but agree with what else he says
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-12-24 00:29 [#02540653]
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That's the issue isnt it the wankers on the extreme ends of the spectrum, who wont accept any compromise what so ever, their decisions are based on logic, just pure hatred and emotion.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-12-24 00:35 [#02540654]
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arent
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mermaidman
on 2017-12-24 00:35 [#02540655]
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yes me too.
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mermaidman
on 2017-12-24 00:38 [#02540656]
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yeah. that's what extreme is, right? i was thinking about things like you can shit into each others mouths and do heroin and die if you want to. if you're over 18 i suppose. cause you have to put a limit when a human becomes an adolescent, either it is 18 or 21 or 16, i don't know.
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mermaidman
on 2017-12-24 00:42 [#02540657]
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but you are right of course, extreme was and is when you leave the foundation of your ideology.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-12-24 00:43 [#02540658]
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Whats mind blowing is how many people have been maimed, and died over revisions of a bronze aged text. how many more thousand years of this crap are people going to have to deal with, thats the real turd in the mouth, trying to rationalise with someone so indoctrinated as an imam or right wing rabbi
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mermaidman
on 2017-12-24 00:46 [#02540659]
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yeah, we could have easily been one of those guys if we were borned into the right circumstances, thank GOD we are not.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-12-24 00:49 [#02540660]
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yeah accident of birth, i mean i suppose i did use ti think i absolute terms when i was 13 or something, but i grew out of it. Terribly self righteous, your truth is the only truth sort of thing, its a very dangerous way to be
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2017-12-24 01:18 [#02540662]
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hyperflake. of course there are jews who say that jews deserved the holocaust for not being jewish enough.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2017-12-24 01:18 [#02540663]
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i actually find this conversation really christmasy btw
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2017-12-24 01:21 [#02540664]
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hyperflake. forget what you read about white phosphorous. typical talking point used by all sorts to claim israel has genocidal intent with use of banned weapons. not worth you thinking about trust me
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mermaidman
on 2017-12-24 01:22 [#02540665]
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BORNED
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mermaidman
on 2017-12-24 01:22 [#02540666]
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i'm sorry i'm not british please don't hurt me
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2017-12-24 01:33 [#02540668]
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mohamed is correct about a lot of this btw. hyperflake acts like both sides have extremists end of story. like this situation is symmetrical. its an easy answer but it aint true. Palestine began with racism, continued it, and never let it go.
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mermaidman
on 2017-12-24 01:36 [#02540669]
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ok
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2017-12-24 01:41 [#02540670]
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you bummed about that? mohamed + monoid speaking fairly here
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mermaidman
on 2017-12-24 01:44 [#02540672]
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i'm so bummed my hole is gaping
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mermaidman
on 2017-12-24 01:47 [#02540673]
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but i don't think mohamed is right, but i guess that's my opinion, but i guess you can be racist and that's fine, but i guess i have to be a muslim to counter this bullshit and i'm not. but whatever ampi have a nice christmas. i mean it.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2017-12-24 01:48 [#02540674]
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i mean there are some serious nuts in israel tho gotta grant you that. we all know it. sure.
but do you remember? wasnt it last year? like palestinians go all in for that Purge style stab a jew free for all?
how can you have a state if you are acting like that?
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2017-12-24 01:50 [#02540675]
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what are you talking about mm
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2017-12-24 01:51 [#02540676]
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youve logged out about 3 times now
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