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RussellDust
on 2017-08-24 22:30 [#02529587]
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Fuck. Been reading about this Kroc Blanc, watching videos. You know how it goes, it leads to other vids etc..
I don't follow his battle, and ideas, but he's capable of making sense. Which kinda surprised me. I wouldn't want this guy as a friend though.
The true truth is truly gone. It's everywhere, in parts, but certainly not in one place.
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RussellDust
on 2017-08-24 23:22 [#02529601]
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Wow. Alain Sorel, Daniel Conversano.. these guys don't even like each other.
I've spent all night reading and watching French vids about these guys, and Kroc Blanc, and I feel sick. Not so much by them, to an extent, as they're just confused men trying to say what they believe in, but it's the amount of hate they instil, from those with them, but also from those against them.
Conversano is a massive racist, Sorel is big into the Jewish conspiracy.
But to explain why I'm just at a loss, and why I think the true truth is truly gone (El-p), I'll use an example.
Those against Conversano, which I can understand, aren't even smart. One woman, clearly out to show this guy is a douche, said this:
"You think you're a French man, yet I've never seen a French man look like you." (He has black hair and a beard)
So she's trying to have a go at his supposed pure stance. I get that. Yet I guess she's also saying, without meaning to, as she supports racial equality, that to look like a French man you need to have blond hair or something. So she is actually giving this guy credit, because I guess her statement implies all Arab French, and black French, don't look French either.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-08-24 23:24 [#02529603]
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ive noticed that about some rappers, they seem to be a bit anti-Semitic and buy into a Jewish Conspiracy
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2017-08-24 23:28 [#02529605]
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yeah honestly the bbc has done great stuff. just trying to explain that when the bbc makes mistakes it aint really propaganda.
its another one of these victim things u keep doing freqy. do you know what real propaganda is like? what its like to live under a system that really controls the information? stop acting the victim.
yes hyperflake the bbc has done so much good stuff - british stuff we should all be proud of. yet another piece of BRITISH CULTURE freqy dosnt give a care for
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2017-08-24 23:32 [#02529608]
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Black on black lies is worse than black on black crime The Jews share their truth on how to make a dime - kanye west
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RussellDust
on 2017-08-24 23:34 [#02529612]
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Kroc Blanc dude actually seems to have no opinion on Jews. He's just angry at fellow rappers hating France, when the country took them in.
One thing about anti semitism. I'm not anti Semitic, don't hate Jews in general, regardless of my opinion regarding Israel and Palestine, but it's tyring to keep hearing Jews are still mega victims, when for me, it seems they're not.
Yeah we get cunts being vocal, we get these abhorrent anti Jew movements. But I don't seem them as the number one, two, or even three persecuted race/religion right now.
I hear all too often about how muslims show go out in the stree and chant "not in our name", but i do t see many Jewish people or Israelis venting about Palestine.
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RussellDust
on 2017-08-24 23:35 [#02529614]
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Apparently freqy is o l'y just getting into this. Give them time.
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RussellDust
on 2017-08-24 23:35 [#02529616]
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I have to say, you have gone up in my esteem recently, AMPI.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-08-24 23:36 [#02529617]
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I think Jewish are great myself, the amount of of advances in science because of Jewish scientists is astonishing, made all our lives much better
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misantroll
from Switzerland on 2017-08-24 23:38 [#02529619]
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no im just blanc
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RussellDust
on 2017-08-24 23:40 [#02529622]
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Come on mate. Arabs, whites, Africans have all contributed to philosophy, art, and maths. You should just say you like people, I stead of generalising.
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freqy
on 2017-08-24 23:42 [#02529623]
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I like allot of bbc programs. I used to work alongside the bbc on a number of occasions and know a number of good people who used to work for them.
doesn’t mean i have to agree with the intentional bias, lies,the misinformation. the cover ups and the state our country is in as a result of the MSM and gov.
just because something or something does good things (as they are funded to do so) Does not excuse bad or even evil behaviour.
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freqy
on 2017-08-24 23:43 [#02529626]
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*something or someone
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RussellDust
on 2017-08-24 23:46 [#02529628]
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Freqy, be as hard on mainstream press as on conspiracy nuts. Be you, stick up for yourself.
This is all a projection for you, to make your own idea. To work out who you are, and what your, and I mean YOUR beliefs are.
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RussellDust
on 2017-08-24 23:47 [#02529629]
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The true truth is truly gone.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-08-24 23:47 [#02529630]
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I know I was just throwing into sharp relief how much they have contributed rather than the usual stuff you get said about the Jews rather than trying to take accomplishments away from any other culture
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-08-24 23:50 [#02529633]
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I think AMPI MAX and Freqy are both right, I know it sounds like a cop out but I think the bbc have given a lot to us culturally speaking,m not so much nowadays, and I agree with Freqy their news reporting leaves a lot to be desired, especially when it comes to stuff like war reporting, or having journalistic effort to put pressure of the government for stuff like Grenfell tower or whatnot
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RussellDust
on 2017-08-24 23:50 [#02529635]
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I know. You're such a well intended chap. I have to mess with you a bit sometimes.
You know, I turned the computer on yesterday, and have yet to go on it. You will get that compilation, with profuse apologies.
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RussellDust
on 2017-08-24 23:52 [#02529636]
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I like the Beeb. Check them out everyday. I like Vox, sometimes too.
As for not always being on point, can you realise, all of you lot here, how hard it must be to be a journalist? They don't have it all handed on a plate.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-08-24 23:53 [#02529637]
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I know everyones a right bastard apart from me, but what can you do!
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-08-24 23:54 [#02529638]
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-08-24 23:55 [#02529639]
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the news if you watch it now seems more like a light entertainment program, bring back the big ben bongs and sitting behind a desk looking really stern
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freqy
on 2017-08-24 23:57 [#02529642]
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i check the bbc news almost every day to see what people think is real!!
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RussellDust
on 2017-08-24 23:59 [#02529645]
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I think I give up with you. I feel really sad about it.
I maintain that I believe the true truth's truly gone, but you seem to have found yours. Good for you I guess. I hope it works out for you.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-08-25 00:00 [#02529646]
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I remember seeing this MOD document where they explicitly talked about using the bbc to put a favourable spin on the Iraq war,
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freqy
on 2017-08-25 00:00 [#02529647]
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news website that is...i could not sit through another news at 10 or alike, to be slooowly fed bias news..(VomiT)
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-08-25 00:00 [#02529648]
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again I feel personally the truth is between how you both see things, but this is of course my opinion
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RussellDust
on 2017-08-25 00:02 [#02529649]
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I feel sad when those that think they're on the good side, "fighting" the good fight, are actually just as narrow minded as those they're opposed to.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-08-25 00:03 [#02529650]
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maybe I'm sitting on the fence a bit, I must admit I don't really trust the main news for large international events that have some politicised stance on because its always got to come through filtered from director general/editors all down the line and the BBC definitely is a politicised institution that's no conspiracy, well I watch it but like anything I take it with a certain grain of salt
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RussellDust
on 2017-08-25 00:05 [#02529651]
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The news, the ten o clock news etc, is just bullshit. Not saying it's all lies. But I think all three of us can agree it does no good whatsoever.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-08-25 00:05 [#02529652]
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there are certainly a lot of journalists with good integrity at the bbc I do believe that, I grew a bit mistrustful of the bbc after the Afghanistan/Iraq conflicts when there were all those media blackouts
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2017-08-25 00:05 [#02529653]
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hey russell LAZY_TITLE please find the time to check this all the way thru. its about tony blair.
you should check out david aaronovitch book on conspiracy theories.
iraq war is another matter some other time perhaps.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-08-25 00:07 [#02529654]
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freqy
on 2017-08-25 00:08 [#02529655]
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Tony andreg keys
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RussellDust
on 2017-08-25 00:10 [#02529656]
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The viewers like to feel concerned, but powerless. The news is of no use to people whatsoever.
And yeah hyperflake, that's the thing, and thank you for not just blindly generalising. There's good journalists, fighting for a cause, and those that aren't, also possibly fighting for a cause.
Just look at that Danish journalist that got murdered by that cunt. She was awesome.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-08-25 00:10 [#02529657]
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Blair doesn't bat an eye lid
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-08-25 00:11 [#02529658]
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yes that is a really really odd story, poor woman
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RussellDust
on 2017-08-25 00:11 [#02529659]
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Ok man, I see it's a long one though, so not for tonight.
I'd still like to know why you're so passionate about him.
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misantroll
from Switzerland on 2017-08-25 00:13 [#02529660]
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so are I nazi for real ?
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misantroll
from Switzerland on 2017-08-25 00:14 [#02529661]
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my girlfriend is from Venezuela, should I tell her the good news ?
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-08-25 00:14 [#02529662]
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remember when D:ream played things can only get better at his victory god that song was poo
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RussellDust
on 2017-08-25 00:14 [#02529663]
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Yeah I'm not surprised, though judging by the source, and the lack of backing up, i take it with a pinch of salt.
The true truth has truly gone.
I'm also running out of beer, and have been spliffless for far too long.
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freqy
on 2017-08-25 00:15 [#02529664]
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if there is a global march against GM foods and the BBC does not inform the people about the build up, or the dates, and then does not report on it live,
and then does not write a story after it happened. just silence.
yet they publish a story that claimed that anyone who opposed GM foods was Wicked ( as in evil)
you can see it is very important to watch BBC news to see what people think is going on and what they feel is important.
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RussellDust
on 2017-08-25 00:16 [#02529665]
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Ooo she's South American, the second home of fleeing Nazis!
On a side note, I Heard some world renowned platic surgeon cunt saying Venezuelan woman were possibly the most good looking women on earth.
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RussellDust
on 2017-08-25 00:16 [#02529666]
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BBC claims anyone agains GM food is evil? Link please!
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-08-25 00:17 [#02529667]
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yes I suppose the trick is, if anyone professes they have the truth and they are the only truthful ones, you have to check it once twice, and thrice, and cross reference it for good measure and only they use your own digression and logic to ascertain if there is any validity in what they say
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RussellDust
on 2017-08-25 00:17 [#02529668]
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I guess they have shares in Monsanto.... right?
I guess you seem to think there's a bigger agenda.
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misantroll
from Switzerland on 2017-08-25 00:17 [#02529669]
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I only watch euronews for info. They just say what happens without shitting around the edges. Neutral AF
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RussellDust
on 2017-08-25 00:18 [#02529670]
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I guess it's just too easy to be complacent. Whatever side you're rooting for.
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freqy
on 2017-08-25 00:18 [#02529671]
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duster said "The news, the ten o clock news etc, is just bullshit. Not
saying it's all lies".
" I think I give up with you. I feel really sad about it."
why would anyone think you thought it was all lies? of course it's not.
if it was all lies, that would destroy the illusion.
bbc news is like a david Copperfield magic trick. you have to have real elements in magic for it to appear all real.
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