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if i type chomsky genocide denier into google it comes up with some guy who seems like a zionist trying to smear chomsky |
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if he did deny a genocide that is truly despicable, but i didnt see explicitly where he denied it, he just seemed to be quibbling about the definition of genocide which he seems to constitute wholesale ethnic cleansing, I dont know on such a serious issue id have to talk directly to the guy himself to see what he though |
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what? ok sure whatever man. you didnt have an FT subscription did you |
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no, i could see the article at first but after i closed it and opened it again it wanted me to subscribe, |
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truth is when i get into these highly charged contested debates over serious matters, like the legitimacy of Israel and stuff like genocide i zone out as i quite clearly am not qualified to deliver an opinion, there is so many thinly veiled agendas to smear each other i just loose interest, because arguments are put across with such subjective viewpoints |
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its chill anyway hyperflake no one really gets it. it dosnt matter just carry on. things remain the same. in this world pilger is worth reading - corbyn is a man of integrity - assange is not bad and evil like blair - and banksy continues. it all remains just like this why bother talkin about it dude |
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Well i would talk it about it more, but i sense im just going to be told im talking bollocks i mean what is your political viewpoint? I dont mean to offend you because outside of politics we seem to get on fine, you seem more conservative minded to me, (i might be utterly wrong) but if we arent going to see eye to eye from basic precepts we are just going to have a upsetting argument and I dont really want to argue |
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dont get upset hyperflake |
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Well I suppose if we agreed on everything we wouldn't have the occasional interesting conversation either, i liked the link to the monbiot chomsky thing you linked, |
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im really not very conservative honestly |
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Did you do politics for a degree? |
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nope written in the 90s. serious thesis. vital reading by professor Sophal Ear (his family escaped the khmer rouge). chomsky is a denier |
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yes thats my criticism of Chomsky, he is so eager to blame american foreign policy (most of the time correctly) that he cant see the wood from the trees He is intellectually dishonest on this issue it seems, your right to point his hypocrisy out. Im not one of his acolytes but I wouldn't dismiss everything he has wrote based on this, as I cant expect him to be right on everything, although this seems quite a large 'oversight' as it were |
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"He has criticized Noam Chomsky's support for the Khmer Rouge. “While my family worked and died in rice fields,” Ear said, “Chomsky sharpened his theories and amended his arguments while seated in his armchair in Cambridge, Massachusetts. I believe that he would probably have me blame the Americans and their bombs for causing everything around the Khmer Rouge to go wrong.” Ear has said that “perhaps someday Chomsky will acknowledge his ‘honest errors’ in his memoirs, speaking of the burdens of academia and the tragic irony of history. His victims, the peasants of Indochina, will write no memoirs and will be forgotten. They will be joined by his North Korean and Bosnian victims…For decades, Chomsky has vilified his critics as only a world class linguist can. However, for me and the surviving members of my family, questions about life under the Khmer Rouge are not intellectual parlour games." i found this on the wiki of that guy you mentioned, quite sober reading |
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"What's the main difference between these two? Chomsky with all his book-learning has only ever propounded one idea -- American imperialism is responsible for all the world's woes, whereas Hitchens' erudition encompasses so many as to boggle the mind. As Hitchen's says, "This is the sum total of what has been learned, by the guru of the left, in the last decade." |
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thx hyperflake feel a lil better now |
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yes ive seen he selectively quotes himself, and is very good at tenuous language and being seemingly none committal, so he can pivot around something he has said in the past perhaps he has gotten worse as he as gotten older i have no idea |
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i honestly feel more relaxed now. nice one. thats true about hitchens too. thanks again |
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I like Hitchens more simply because he is more persuasive in his arguments and has a sense of humor, he certainly had an arrogant streak as well, but every public intellectual has pros and cons i guess, i dont slavishly follow any ideology really, thats the key i guess |
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Look at this thread, fighting amongst ourselves. The terrorists have won!!! |
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im amazed it didnt turn into an argument for once, amazing stuff! |
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There's still time... |
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there is probably some formula that describes the number of posts that are needed before an argument breaks out, |
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Abbott will be in control of national security and immigration. |
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you mean RZA, the abbot? |
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unfortunately not. |
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terror defcon downgraded to mild peril |
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bloody hell |
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they didnt put the handbrake on and almost got ran over by their own car |
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Shes an idiot rather than malicious i think |
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loool the zoom |
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y see where she walks off lol. 4.21. |
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does seem a bit racist though have to say |
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dont know how she can claim it was taken out of context it can only be taken one way really |
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" The Coudenhove-Kalergi plan" all the gears are in alignment now. |
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whats that Freqy? |
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is that the star trek maneuver kirk does? |
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its an impossible situation to win, but he did anyway |
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from memory, i believe is the plan to wipe out ethnic Europeans. conceived in 1928 by ~Richard Coudenhove-Kalergi. one of the main reasons for the pan European union now EU |
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hence manufactured wars and opening all borders. |
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Sounds a bit grim, why would anyone want to do that |
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I think its to do with ending Christianity. and also there is something in the culture or genetics that threatens the ruling class. |
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yes it cannot be denied things are changing greatly |
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I like diversity but it is only temporary. The dominant culture/ ideology will dominate and wipe out diversity. |
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yes its true, things will regress if religious based cultures take over, |
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