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offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2017-05-31 22:28 [#02521229]
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to RD

man, some time ago aphex twin retweeted a track on
soundcloud. i listened to it, it wasn't acid or some aphex
clone, it was plain and simple techno, so perfect, with the
few elements going together and even fitter drum additions.
with simple but frankly mindblowing transformations of
sounds. but at the same time clean and transmitting calm.

thats the music i would be able to do, but not at that level
now!


 

offline RussellDust on 2017-05-31 22:30 [#02521231]
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I've been through hell and back with drugs. I don't like
people making comments that generalize.


 

offline RussellDust on 2017-05-31 22:31 [#02521233]
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Male your own music. You're Mohamed. Be proud of that.

I will not longer argue about the subject, because it's
clear I can't get my point across.


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2017-05-31 22:31 [#02521234]
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ok, ok


 

offline RussellDust on 2017-05-31 22:32 [#02521235]
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I love Kate Bush, doesn't mean I have decided sounding like
her is the best I can do. Take it as an insult if you wish.


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2017-05-31 22:32 [#02521236]
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im not mohamed. im mohamed just on this site.


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2017-05-31 22:33 [#02521237]
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you know what really makes me proud? people caring about
other people like you


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2017-05-31 22:34 [#02521238]
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quite the generality! lol


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2017-05-31 22:35 [#02521239]
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why are you stirring up shit calm down, dude


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2017-05-31 22:38 [#02521241]
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he wrong about ur spam mohamed. ignore it


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2017-05-31 22:39 [#02521242]
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do we have to talk about your fucking failed wedding in this
thread russel dust


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2017-05-31 22:40 [#02521244]
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Doubt he even listened to it


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2017-05-31 22:43 [#02521245]
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¯\_(ツ)_/¯


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2017-05-31 22:46 [#02521246]
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russell is gonna be pissed im logging out


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2017-05-31 22:49 [#02521247]
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forget this shit, really fuck off dude, dan was right


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2017-05-31 23:23 [#02521250]
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stop attacking anyone in your view. its not the first time
you accuse people of being in need of friends, the fuck you
are here for.


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2017-05-31 23:25 [#02521251]
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umbroman was never a troll in all of his accounts, it
depends on what information you wanted to be posted from him


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2017-05-31 23:27 [#02521252]
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you gang up everytime, you do sound like the one desperate
and in need of friends at the current state of affairs.


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2017-05-31 23:36 [#02521253]
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mo come to my links thread and listen a few tracks and get
chilled


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2017-05-31 23:46 [#02521258]
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i need to get up early tomorrow


 

offline SignedUpToLOL from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2017-06-01 01:08 [#02521260]
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I think, when we do get XLT 2, then there'll be a schism.

Which side will *you* be on?

Food for thought.


 

offline Portnoy on 2017-06-01 09:56 [#02521269]
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dont fool yourself, mo. Umbroman is trolling in this thread
too.

Everything he says just affirms your negative feelings.
He’s saying exactly what u want to hear, riling u up even
more*.

Unlike RD, who’s saying what u dont want to hear.

I wonder what kind of feedback makes u grow more as a
person/musician?

RD can be harsh but I don’t think hes being malicious.

A grain of salt is key!

I aint perfect either, but lately I’ve been trying to work
on my emotional intelligence. God knows it is pretty
terrible in general.

mohamed, as someone who’s always fighting for authenticity
in posting and music etc, one would think u would gravitate
more towards that kind of honesty.

*I must say though I always confused chachmaster3000 and
umbroman, though i have a strong feeling umbro has been
trolling under some other guises! Just not sure which ones.
Could be wrong though! *You seem tame for the most part,
except when ur making naughty posts.


 

offline Portnoy on 2017-06-01 09:59 [#02521270]
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XLT is small enough as it is, if the already low population
cant get along then what is left?

I suppose it’s normal, always some argument at xlt.
Amazing how quickly that escalated back to shit vibes.

We all have some shit in our personal lives, why come here
and get mad at each other. U all share the love for
excellent xlt.

p.s I like Mohams tunes - I completely get his strong base -
slight variation approach. I’ve always appreciated that
about his tunes. Sometimes a bit sterile but every so often
you just nail the vibe imo. Like that one tune u post on
soundcloud which I *liked*



 

offline Portnoy on 2017-06-01 10:14 [#02521271]
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yup Im annoyed at some peoples having a fight on the
internet I've never met. Bloody hell.


 

offline RussellDust on 2017-06-01 11:47 [#02521272]
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I come across as mean or whatever, but this guy really has
issues. I guess Dan is right, and he agrees that your a
passive agressive, bitter man who can't take criticism. As
for my wedding, what are you talking about? I'm not high
jacking your read with my wedding, I just said I thought
your music was crap, but I made an effort to put it in a
nicer way.

Haha I love how easily you bend left and right, now because
of trollbroman.

I wrote an apology because I couldn't believe you got so
annoyed I'm not like others bigging up your music.

At least I'm not a mean cunt.

AMPI, umbro... absolutely no surprise.


 

offline RussellDust on 2017-06-01 11:51 [#02521274]
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I'm sorry your life is a lonely affair, Mohamed. I get it
why you come here.
But of course if someone doesn't like your music, then let's
all attack him!

I'm happy this has brought you and AMPI and umbroman
together. You people have no heart.

It's not my fault your life is shit!

Grow up, get a girlfriend, you bald tit!


 

offline RussellDust on 2017-06-01 11:52 [#02521275]
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Haha sorry portnoy, replied to you it seems but quickly
thought I was talking to "I've lived in Egypt blah blah
blah" man.

I will just ignore them now, and feel stupid for trying to
make things better.

He doesn't even know when he's being trolled by others....


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2017-06-01 12:01 [#02521276]
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wtf russell lol leave me alone i thought we were snyder
chums


 

offline RussellDust on 2017-06-01 12:06 [#02521277]
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We are chowder chums.

I'm very sorry I posted a negative review.... sigh

All this fuckery because I dared speak my mind.

When Mohamed is famous, I hope he'll realize that he will
inevitably get a fair share of criticism. It's a part of
life, and unless the guy mocks your mum, it shouldn't be
taken so badly. Grow up Mohamed, or tell people that when
you spam stuff you're only prepared to hear positive
comments.


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2017-06-01 12:09 [#02521278]
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I have never lived in egypt, the fuck you talking about


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2017-06-01 12:12 [#02521279]
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Umbroman is a guy with extreme mental issues and you keep
trampling on him


 

offline RussellDust on 2017-06-01 12:13 [#02521280]
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Actually having a go at me about my wedding for no ducking
reason just shows how low some people can go. Really, really
low. I only mentioned going through a hard patch. Agressive
responses to this are not clever, authentic, or nice. They
show very little humanity.

Are you happy you can now gang up on me? After we had both
agreed to put it behind us? Pathetic.

Well we're patching things up with my wife, which is nice.
So no need to attack me there.

Nice to see some intelligent members here who understood I
was maybe a bit harsh, but certainly not mailcious or with
intent to hurt.



 

offline RussellDust on 2017-06-01 12:14 [#02521281]
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You keep talking about Egypt, endlessly. Didn't realize it
was just a holiday.

Umbroman is a fucking troll.


 

offline RussellDust on 2017-06-01 12:15 [#02521282]
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Oh I see what this is now, revenge of the i don't know
whats!

You think I trample on people? Is this what this is all
about?

Make a fucking band together!


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2017-06-01 12:17 [#02521283]
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My life is ok, sexless but ok, as for the music you just
dont have the manners to express yourself negatively without
sounding like a complete twat. I dont need that kind of
opinions. You can keep it for yourself


 

offline Descent from the salt of Satan's sweat. (United Kingdom) on 2017-06-01 12:40 [#02521284]
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Mohamed, you've been defending your music as being not
something, but you haven't spoken to what it is, what it
means to you, and how the process is something that is an
output of yourself. You have dreams of conquering music, and
bettering yourself, and it's a positive thing. Not everyone
will enjoy your music, and even if they do, they may get
something different from it than you envisaged.

The music is your own, but there are people out there who
want you to reach your goal, and will tell you directly what
they think. These are things to consider, avenues to
explore. I've sent RD music before, and he's nothing but
honest about what he hears, which is refreshing. I'd much
rather hear someone's genuine reaction, than telling me it's
all fine and proper.

It's always difficult to read, or hear criticism of your
work, but it's your choice to take it on, or ignore it.
Attacking someone because they put their emotional response
direct is the easy way out.

Anyway I love you all and I've packed sandwiches.


 

offline RussellDust on 2017-06-01 12:42 [#02521285]
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Blah blah blah...


 

offline RussellDust on 2017-06-01 12:43 [#02521286]
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Your music is the worst I've ever heard in all my life, and
past lives!


 

offline Descent from the salt of Satan's sweat. (United Kingdom) on 2017-06-01 12:47 [#02521287]
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I must be doing something right, then!


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2017-06-01 12:54 [#02521289]
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Twat! Twat! Twat!


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2017-06-01 12:59 [#02521290]
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Thanks guys for your feedback, hopefully we all become
genuine and outspoken and honest like russeldust one day,
for now im afraid we have to make it with your rotten ears


 

offline Portnoy on 2017-06-01 13:03 [#02521291]
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I love my gf, just now she made me giggle.

She said wow that was the best lunch I ever had, I heard her
but only responded later because I was lost in thought about
this thing. She said, 'What's up?'

I said internet drama.

"What internet drama?"

I said, "some guy posted his music on xlt and the other guy
didn't like it. There was some misunderstanding and then
more misunderstandings and now they're arguing. Some other
people got involved too. Myself included.

"Oh my god. Kindergarten!"


 

offline Portnoy on 2017-06-01 13:05 [#02521292]
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I think the umbroman trampling could refer to me also. I did
call him a troll on numerous occasions and a 'racist cock'
once.

That was before he spoke about his mental issues, or at
least, I didn't know about it.

That doesn't excuse him from being manipulative and a dick
however.

Afaict umbroman suffers from some sort of schizophrenia.
That's doesn't mean no one should ever make fun of him.

No offense mo but your English isn't exactly the sharpest.
Don't get me wrong, not bad but I'd be careful about
interpreting 'intent' and meanings which aren't there.

The whole thing did start with you misinterpreting what RD
had said. Something about money.

This is not even my fight but I can't bear to sit here and
watch it unfold.

Hyperflake where are u? Say something reconciliatory.

I'm not the right person for this.


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2017-06-01 13:06 [#02521293]
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:)


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2017-06-01 13:11 [#02521294]
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Nope, you shouldnt make fun of disabled people. I know my
english is not good, but i can recognize between umbroman
and russedust, and allow me to think the first might have an
ideology you dont like but hes way gentler.


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2017-06-01 13:22 [#02521295]
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Umbro, lets team up cos russeldust has said so. Ha


 

offline Portnoy on 2017-06-01 13:28 [#02521296]
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You shouldn’t make fun of disabled people for their
disabilities (maybe if u do it in a tasteful way at the
right time, with a family member, for ex) but u can make fun
of them about other things. Why not.

As for umbro's ideology, he hasn't exactly spelled it out
but then, he does have Pepe the frog as his avatar.

He comes across as gentle yes. And he does look gentle too,
judging from that picture. He rarely makes wordy posts so
his personality doesnt really come out,


 

offline Tussle Toss from United States on 2017-06-01 13:31 [#02521297]
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*farts*


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-06-01 13:45 [#02521302]
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I though Umbroman looks like a young antiques expert,


 

offline RussellDust on 2017-06-01 13:47 [#02521303]
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Of course if I don't like your music, Mohamed, I must have
rotten ears.
You're so cocky, with fake humility. If a music paper didn't
like your stuff, would you send people over to "get them"?


 


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