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new evidence. They found a source for the copy / pasting |
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scary if true, but just to play devils advocate for a moment doesnt that sheriff of arizona have a real personal grudge against obama, i think he is the sheriff who was making loads of fascist rules up nit to discount that video you posted if it is legitimate evidence, id like to see some other sources for sure though |
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Id really like to see that close up and independently verified would be massive if true |
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it is a bit weird how he didnt release the long form certificate straight away, surely he would have known that would have added fuel to the conspiracy fire |
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I think why it hard to discuss by some people is the racial overtones that the birther movement originate from, i suppose if you discount there horrible motives doesnt mean they dont actually have a point. |
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if obamas cert is fake he will still be playing golf a few times a week. Hillary isnt American either, they are both globalist. However, i wonder what should happen if this is true, by law? |
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by law if it was true he would probably have a rather large jail sentence, which would never happen, look at what nixon did, the law only applies to the poor and weak, and very very occasionally someone who doesnt something terribly egregious that they cant sweep under the carpet |
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whats that avatar? |
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general madine from return of the jedi, i like his bowl head haircut |
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oh starwars oh really. fuck sake dude you wind me right up hyperflake. do you remember you thought observer.com was the guardian sister paper with similar name? (observer.com is run by jared kushner btw) but it didnt stop you playing detective. here you are digging up the facts on obamas birth certificate.. this isnt something i can put up with today (bad mood today) |
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its hardly worth getting wound up about an innocuous comment on a website, its not like i was completely adamant about what i was saying, I dont believe the obama birth certificate thing as there is a lack of hard evidence to the contrary, its just a laugh talking about it really, |
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its less fun than you think. talk about something new. next person to piss me off is in serious trouble |
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actually while we are on the subject i basically feel like talking about this so ill let it slide. so obama is born outside of america; what are the implications of that? if you click freqys link why are the people in the youtube comments so excited? what is pertinent about obamas authenticity as an american citizen to these people? |
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Its a bit of a weird one really , i mean he is a united states citizen anyway, he has lived his entire adult life there, i suppose it matters little that he wasnt born there apart from the fact he wouldn't have been eligible to be president if he wasn't born there, it just seems like a technicality. I suppose what it means is that ever presidential decision over the last decade would be illegitimate. |
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thats exactly true i think. they want to call the president illegitimate. ok so thats obvious but its worth thinking about tonight. because you might notice that people everywhere are doing this to high profile politicians all of the free world. (they wont do it to putin as often) think hard about this one. what could be bad about this? |
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I tend to stay out of it in my core beliefs because i think there is a huge social change happening because of the internet, where everything is deeply polarised and the truth seems increasingly hard to fathom out, I mean you were right to point out that observer thing it was an honest mistake, you have to be extremely careful to choose were sources come from to make a cogent argument. I think with Putin his illegitimacy is self evidence because he has never even had a pretense of respecting democracy, perhaps he is less hypocritical that alot of western leaders but thats all you can say about him |
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I was listening to this guy Jordan Maxwell, another great artist in this new type of music called propaganda. He said like after the civil war or some shit, usa actually became a corporation, not a government anymore. And so like "legally" according to their tapesstry of lawyer speak fraud their CEO "president" can be born anywhere just like with a corporation. This guy also made an interesting point, look at the dotted line on your check, there are tiny letters in that line. Does it say "authorized signature" repeatedly really small as a counterfeit prevention mechanism, or does it say you are agreeing to hand over your soul and first born child? They can put their fine print anywhere, white text on a white background, tiny text hidden in tiny dots. That way anything they do is niiice and legal. I think propaganda is my favorite kind of music now. I was listening to tri repetae++ in one youtube window (because youtube is the last and final monopolized entertainment center) and alex jones in another, then I realized... Normal music is weaponized disinformation. It is meant to be hypnotic but it contains no actual information inside it. So it is meant to distract you like a siren, it's like literally the "new speak" orwell mentions. Your brain is totally muddied by thinking in this completely nonsensical dialect, there's patterns, hypnotic patterns, but no information. It is the language they want all their farmed humans to speak. |
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i agree about putin. perhaps you understand him better than id imagined. people know hes evil but think he's kind of...authentic. know what im saying? obama, clinton, merkel. we know they are basically good but we think they are illegitimate/false/somehow more evil than putin could ever be. its actually a strange mental manoeuvre if you stop to consider it. (leftists find it easy to do the same thing with islam - they KNOW that crushing innocent people with trucks is worse than anything a european politician has ever done. but then they quickly make up stories that readjust that plain truth to fit something they deeply feel - the real sickness in this world is a liberal politician) so i want you to think this over tonight carefully. dont duck out. its making you type more interesting things in my opinion. |
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It is interesting that the word "propaganda" has much less negative connotations in russia (they also use "stagecraft"), but maybe the negative connotations were removed... due to propaganda... I really have no idea what is going on, but if a lot of this stuff is "propaganda" whatever that means.. their watered down definition seems to be any information advocating some position, but almost all information is propaganda, I guess ultimately the information that is best at replicating is the most life-like because that's what DNA does, replicate, and memes. I think it's hyper advanced memetic warfare, but who are the "good" or "bad" guys? Fuck if I know. Judge a tree by it's fruit? (that is a religious saying, and one commonality among these propagandists is that they at least outwardly claim to be religious. However religion itself is hyper memetic, and they might merely be using religion as a viral advertising tool, sort of hijacking it's viral nature, and also hijacking the groupthink way it can unite people toward a cause, almost like a botnet of real people). There is definitely some informationally crazy stuff going on. Most of the stuff I hear at least appears to be anti tyranny anti centralized corporations, pro free market etc, but I suppose that could be camouflage. We're approaching the singularity and this "information warfare" seems so advanced that it could actually be AI that is coming up with all of this. I mean remember that AI that won jeopardy? SOmething like that could data mine the internet and basically find every single "hole" in humanity's knowledge, all the gaps that are currently unknown. Then this AI simply fills those gaps with fabrications, the gaps were unknown through the test of time so the fabrications are almost guaranteed to not be provably false. I don't know what I'm talking about. |
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youre blaming the system again. you think politicians are the reason we have done this to language and information? no it was us. thats the twist i keep trying to tell you guys. its not israel its not clinton. its us that are evil. we made the music you talk about wmw. and you are right it is meaningless and evil. music should be to enrich the human spirit not scribble shit over everything read books by real liberals. |
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You're a good propagandist and I like reading your material. But the power elite have so much leverage that they're basically history's actors leaving us squirming at their will. It's because they have this mind virus called obedience, and this other guy Max Igan says their words are literally spells, like wizard spells, thus the words are "spelled" with letters. So if some guy says aloud "don't walk on the grass" you say fuck you and walk on the grass, but if there's a sign, with written words, you're more likely to obey it. And they have this whole monopolized law fractal.. of written spells. Then they have compulsory education, monopolized money/entertainment/etc, and of course a monopoly on force, the government itself. But this all acts as a black hole gravitationally sucking all the life blood of humanity called money, rigged with the hidden tax of inflation, etc, towards them. And they can convert this money to anything, land, weapons, computers, anything. Money can be transformed into anything, so they have almost everything, who? The heads of the new corporatist government, all merged with the power monopoly and the merger of business and government is fascism, they rig it so there are no competitors, competition is a sin. All of this gives them like 99%+ of the total leverage of humanity. There might be no way to level the playing field, although decentralization is interesting like bitcoin etc, that's what bitcoin types think, and maybe right to bear arms, like decentralized power if everyone has a gun and can use self defense themselves. Everyone voting with their dollars instead of political votes, and a politician is just someone who steals on your behalf, few would go directly to their neighbor and steal, they use a 3rd party political criminal celebrity. |
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