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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2016-05-17 18:20 [#02496118]
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https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/september-11th-redux#/
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 18:26 [#02496119]
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bit lost for words with this one
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freqy
on 2016-05-17 18:32 [#02496120]
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cool idea but
The twin towers construction manager has already stated the twin towers were built for 'multiple' 707 impacts.
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cant get more scientific than, that considering tests have already been done.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 18:37 [#02496121]
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they would have to build like for like to get anything resembling a fair test and that would cost billions, anyway we all know via simulation you have to change and fiddle around with the parameters alot to get the towers to fall down in the fairly precise vertical manner in which they fell
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RussellDust
on 2016-05-17 18:48 [#02496122]
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Shaggy did it.
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2016-05-17 18:54 [#02496123]
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Mr Bombastic elephantastic
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2016-05-17 19:08 [#02496124]
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Tvy8-8q6U8
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chachmaster3000
on 2016-05-17 19:45 [#02496127]
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bush, storytelling to school children, a training mission to mimic the exact events there were unfolding simultaneously...
our resilience to believe the good, or innocent err in people when it really matters is what makes lying so fun :)
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 19:59 [#02496129]
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chachmaster3000
on 2016-05-17 20:09 [#02496132]
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he looks so both guilty and stupid. it's hard to tell if he knew. if he didn't know i figure at least one of the three stooges knew.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 20:11 [#02496133]
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yeah its impossible to say, i have to say Dick Cheney always gave me the creeps
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 20:20 [#02496134]
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FBI guy makes some interesting points
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chachmaster3000
on 2016-05-17 20:30 [#02496135]
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Yea I don't even need further validation. From top to bottom, people are people, and psychos get in to politics for power all the fucking time.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 20:43 [#02496136]
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yes power attracts psychotic types thats unarguable
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freqy
on 2016-05-17 20:56 [#02496137]
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the fbi man died, likely from poisoning.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 21:30 [#02496138]
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really? how did they get him
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freqy
on 2016-05-17 21:50 [#02496140]
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I dont know much but a brief google of him. was pretty recent anyways.
check this one
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2016-05-17 21:58 [#02496141]
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what do you think of that video hyperflake?
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 22:00 [#02496142]
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the chemtrails one?
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RussellDust
on 2016-05-17 22:05 [#02496144]
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Dying from cancer does happen, rather a lot.
"Exactly", some will say.
I dunno. I hate all forms of propaganda.
Chemtrails do exist, but not the extent a lot of ignorant people believe.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 22:06 [#02496145]
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I think they are contrails rather than chemtrails because air humidity changes how long contrails and water vapor evaporates. Obviously the government has sprayed sections of the population back in the 40s and stuff like that so its not beyond the realms of possibility, i think its a much more nebulous proposition than discussing 911, more irrational thinking involved to arrive at that conclusion, basically i dont see enough evidence myself at the present time
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 22:10 [#02496146]
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No doubt they carry out small scale experiments for stuff like inoculation for pandemics and population control. There is so many government agencies with weird agendas, do i think its currently a wide spread active thing, probably not
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2016-05-17 22:24 [#02496147]
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i think this is strange that we find democracies hard to trust. clinton cant keep a few emails secret. how are 'they' supposed to bury a government plan to spray populations with death/mind control vapour
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 22:32 [#02496148]
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yes thats one of my objections to conspiracy theories on the whole, however there are so many quasi government organisations embedded within america that arent really that beholden to the law of the land that could probably get away with quite a bit, you would like to think that there would be a whistle blower from someone who would say this is an evil scheme,
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2016-05-17 22:35 [#02496149]
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i dont think there are many psychos in democracy government. its an unfulfilling job requires patience and timing, not psycho impulsivity.
psychos want to overthrow and devolve state infrastructure because the state enshrines respect for human autonomy and psychos think that is all guff and rubbish and we should be stripped of that and be something more basic and pure. thats why they are usually the revolutionary type of radical. i think this is often the case.
so really you are supposed to watch out for people who want to undermine the state in extreme ways like violence or humiliation - basically the same way you would worry about someone who wants to do that to an individual human
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2016-05-17 22:40 [#02496150]
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fine lines between psychos and cunts i guess. i think democracy has mostly twats
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 22:41 [#02496151]
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I definitely think there are elements of that type of person in the republican party at least, i wouldnt say its the majority of them but there are definite elements that crave obscene power and laugh at the proles. I think people like Dick Cheney and the like definitely exhibit that sort of behavior.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2016-05-17 22:46 [#02496152]
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cheney laughed at the proles and mao gathered the proles but cmon which one is really a psycho here and which one a cunt
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 22:46 [#02496153]
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Do i think a cadre of these people conspired to do stuff like 911 i cant say, if they did wouldn't terribly surprise me as they definitely do have a contempt for democracy, their actions bare that out, sexed up dossiers, patriot act, getting all their corporate mates (Halliburton etc) on the military gravy train. At the very least they have benefited a great deal from all the chaos and strife, i think thats what makes people suspect, well it makes me question stuff
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2016-05-17 22:47 [#02496154]
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cersei lannister or the high sparrow?
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 22:49 [#02496155]
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well i say on the whole Mao killed alot more people i wont argue that, im just surmising with Cheney, perhaps he is more of a cunt than a psycho, probably a combination
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 22:52 [#02496156]
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oh god neither, i really dislike the high sparrow more though its hard to say why
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chachmaster3000
on 2016-05-17 22:52 [#02496157]
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"so really you are supposed to watch out for people who want
to undermine the state in extreme ways like violence or humiliation - basically the same way you would worry about someone who wants to do that to an individual human "
i dunno. when you are a type-a narcissistic cunt and have so much power that most people are mere numbers or ants...well, i don't think you need to have angst to take out a few thousand
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 22:52 [#02496158]
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great actor Johnathan Pryce
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2016-05-17 23:05 [#02496159]
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in government (the more democratic it gets) power is usually diluted in lots of ways. so not always a suitable place for the really power hungry. its mostly full of ambitious types with small-medium agendas, often passionate about policy and boring stuff like that. some care about bigger things like a better world yet have a deluded vision and do terrible things. some are opportunists who find bending policy can favour themselves and they love to just have things their way even if it disadvantages people - but still not a madman
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2016-05-17 23:06 [#02496160]
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yeah hes good at that. you watch latest episode?
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 23:08 [#02496161]
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I largely agree with what your saying, but i think people like Nixon occasionally get through the net and do stuff like
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 23:10 [#02496162]
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yes it was a good one, i think anything that take place with daenerys is the shows week point as its been padded out for at least 4 seasons
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2016-05-17 23:17 [#02496163]
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she had a good bit this time tho. so what did u think of sparrows reasoning LAZY_TITLE here
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chachmaster3000
on 2016-05-17 23:18 [#02496164]
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you're holding on to my loose usage or the term psycho, and you are relying on the idea of democracy too much imo, especially for the USA where public and private blind lines all the time. it's all human behaviour and we are no where near having a great institutional firewall of accountability.
i know what we are capable of, and all we are doing here is ruminating over who did what already happened
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 23:26 [#02496165]
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I;m not sure of his reasoning, if he is telling the truth and has no ambition of his own then he is the most straight forward character in the program, surely there must be more to it than that, perhaps he is seeking vengeance for some reason., i havent read the books so i dont know for sure
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2016-05-18 22:31 [#02496175]
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no dude. what is straight talking about seeing thru the story? what is honest about leaving a feast? good food just left to waste. what is straight here?
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2016-05-18 22:36 [#02496176]
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i hope he gets killed by the end of this season
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2016-05-18 22:46 [#02496177]
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the camera goes in on his face like he has a point. i just find him bad
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-19 10:50 [#02496182]
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yes religious zealots are incredibly annoying, i like the idea of the character as it adds another dimension to the story, its obvious he is going to die a nasty way, probably some variation of the walk of shame with hot pokers up his rear end
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