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offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2016-05-17 18:20 [#02496118]
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https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/september-11th-redux#/


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 18:26 [#02496119]
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bit lost for words with this one


 

offline freqy on 2016-05-17 18:32 [#02496120]
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cool idea but

The twin towers construction manager has already stated
the twin towers were built for 'multiple' 707 impacts.

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cant get more scientific than, that considering tests have
already been done.


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 18:37 [#02496121]
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they would have to build like for like to get anything
resembling a fair test and that would cost billions, anyway
we all know via simulation you have to change and fiddle
around with the parameters alot to get the towers to fall
down in the fairly precise vertical manner in which they
fell


 

offline RussellDust on 2016-05-17 18:48 [#02496122]
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Shaggy did it.


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2016-05-17 18:54 [#02496123]
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Mr Bombastic elephantastic


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2016-05-17 19:08 [#02496124]
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Tvy8-8q6U8


 

offline chachmaster3000 on 2016-05-17 19:45 [#02496127]
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bush, storytelling to school children, a training mission to
mimic the exact events there were unfolding
simultaneously...

our resilience to believe the good, or innocent err in
people when it really matters is what makes lying so fun :)



 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 19:59 [#02496129]
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LAZY_TITLE


 

offline chachmaster3000 on 2016-05-17 20:09 [#02496132]
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he looks so both guilty and stupid. it's hard to tell if he
knew. if he didn't know i figure at least one of the three
stooges knew.


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 20:11 [#02496133]
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yeah its impossible to say, i have to say Dick Cheney always
gave me the creeps


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 20:20 [#02496134]
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LAZY_TITLE

FBI guy makes some interesting points


 

offline chachmaster3000 on 2016-05-17 20:30 [#02496135]
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Yea I don't even need further validation. From top to
bottom, people are people, and psychos get in to politics
for power all the fucking time.


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 20:43 [#02496136]
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yes power attracts psychotic types thats unarguable


 

offline freqy on 2016-05-17 20:56 [#02496137]
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the fbi man died, likely from poisoning.


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 21:30 [#02496138]
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really? how did they get him


 

offline freqy on 2016-05-17 21:50 [#02496140]
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I dont know much but a brief google of him. was pretty
recent anyways.

check this one


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2016-05-17 21:58 [#02496141]
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what do you think of that video hyperflake?


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 22:00 [#02496142]
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the chemtrails one?


 

offline RussellDust on 2016-05-17 22:05 [#02496144]
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Dying from cancer does happen, rather a lot.

"Exactly", some will say.

I dunno. I hate all forms of propaganda.

Chemtrails do exist, but not the extent a lot of ignorant
people believe.


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 22:06 [#02496145]
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I think they are contrails rather than chemtrails because
air humidity changes how long contrails and water vapor
evaporates. Obviously the government has sprayed sections of
the population back in the 40s and stuff like that so its
not beyond the realms of possibility, i think its a much
more nebulous proposition than discussing 911, more
irrational thinking involved to arrive at that conclusion,
basically i dont see enough evidence myself at the present
time


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 22:10 [#02496146]
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No doubt they carry out small scale experiments for stuff
like inoculation for pandemics and population control. There
is so many government agencies with weird agendas, do i
think its currently a wide spread active thing, probably not


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2016-05-17 22:24 [#02496147]
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i think this is strange that we find democracies hard to
trust. clinton cant keep a few emails secret. how are 'they'
supposed to bury a government plan to spray populations with
death/mind control vapour


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 22:32 [#02496148]
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yes thats one of my objections to conspiracy theories on the
whole, however there are so many quasi government
organisations embedded within america that arent really that
beholden to the law of the land that could probably get away
with quite a bit, you would like to think that there would
be a whistle blower from someone who would say this is an
evil scheme,


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2016-05-17 22:35 [#02496149]
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i dont think there are many psychos in democracy government.
its an unfulfilling job requires patience and timing, not
psycho impulsivity.
psychos want to overthrow and devolve state infrastructure
because the state enshrines respect for human autonomy and
psychos think that is all guff and rubbish and we should be
stripped of that and be something more basic and pure. thats
why they are usually the revolutionary type of radical. i
think this is often the case.

so really you are supposed to watch out for people who want
to undermine the state in extreme ways like violence or
humiliation - basically the same way you would worry about
someone who wants to do that to an individual human


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2016-05-17 22:40 [#02496150]
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fine lines between psychos and cunts i guess. i think
democracy has mostly twats


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 22:41 [#02496151]
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I definitely think there are elements of that type of person
in the republican party at least, i wouldnt say its the
majority of them but there are definite elements that crave
obscene power and laugh at the proles. I think people like
Dick Cheney and the like definitely exhibit that sort of
behavior.



 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2016-05-17 22:46 [#02496152]
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cheney laughed at the proles and mao gathered the proles but
cmon which one is really a psycho here and which one a cunt


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 22:46 [#02496153]
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Do i think a cadre of these people conspired to do stuff
like 911 i cant say, if they did wouldn't terribly surprise
me as they definitely do have a contempt for democracy,
their actions bare that out, sexed up dossiers, patriot act,
getting all their corporate mates (Halliburton etc) on the
military gravy train. At the very least they have benefited
a great deal from all the chaos and strife, i think thats
what makes people suspect, well it makes me question stuff


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2016-05-17 22:47 [#02496154]
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cersei lannister or the high sparrow?


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 22:49 [#02496155]
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well i say on the whole Mao killed alot more people i wont
argue that, im just surmising with Cheney, perhaps he is
more of a cunt than a psycho, probably a combination


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 22:52 [#02496156]
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oh god neither, i really dislike the high sparrow more
though its hard to say why


 

offline chachmaster3000 on 2016-05-17 22:52 [#02496157]
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"so really you are supposed to watch out for people who want

to undermine the state in extreme ways like violence or
humiliation - basically the same way you would worry about
someone who wants to do that to an individual human "

i dunno. when you are a type-a narcissistic cunt and have so
much power that most people are mere numbers or ants...well,
i don't think you need to have angst to take out a few
thousand


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 22:52 [#02496158]
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great actor Johnathan Pryce


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2016-05-17 23:05 [#02496159]
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in government (the more democratic it gets) power is usually
diluted in lots of ways. so not always a suitable place for
the really power hungry. its mostly full of ambitious types
with small-medium agendas, often passionate about policy and
boring stuff like that. some care about bigger things like a
better world yet have a deluded vision and do terrible
things. some are opportunists who find bending policy can
favour themselves and they love to just have things their
way even if it disadvantages people - but still not a madman


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2016-05-17 23:06 [#02496160]
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yeah hes good at that. you watch latest episode?


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 23:08 [#02496161]
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I largely agree with what your saying, but i think people
like Nixon occasionally get through the net and do stuff
like

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offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 23:10 [#02496162]
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yes it was a good one, i think anything that take place with
daenerys is the shows week point as its been padded out for
at least 4 seasons


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2016-05-17 23:17 [#02496163]
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she had a good bit this time tho.
so what did u think of sparrows reasoning LAZY_TITLE
here


 

offline chachmaster3000 on 2016-05-17 23:18 [#02496164]
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you're holding on to my loose usage or the term psycho, and
you are relying on the idea of democracy too much imo,
especially for the USA where public and private blind lines
all the time. it's all human behaviour and we are no where
near having a great institutional firewall of
accountability.

i know what we are capable of, and all we are doing here is
ruminating over who did what already happened


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 23:26 [#02496165]
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I;m not sure of his reasoning, if he is telling the truth
and has no ambition of his own then he is the most straight
forward character in the program, surely there must be more
to it than that, perhaps he is seeking vengeance for some
reason., i havent read the books so i dont know for sure


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2016-05-18 22:31 [#02496175]
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no dude. what is straight talking about seeing thru the
story? what is honest about leaving a feast? good food just
left to waste. what is straight here?



 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2016-05-18 22:36 [#02496176]
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i hope he gets killed by the end of this season


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2016-05-18 22:46 [#02496177]
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the camera goes in on his face like he has a point. i just
find him bad


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-19 10:50 [#02496182]
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yes religious zealots are incredibly annoying, i like the
idea of the character as it adds another dimension to the
story, its obvious he is going to die a nasty way, probably
some variation of the walk of shame with hot pokers up his
rear end


 


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