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freqy
on 2016-03-22 20:59 [#02493612]
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Again, for why?
25+ killed. 100's injured in Brussels.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-03-22 21:10 [#02493613]
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unfathomable mind set, they will achieve nothing but their own destruction
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-03-22 21:16 [#02493614]
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just been reading this
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freqy
on 2016-03-22 21:17 [#02493615]
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page dead already. been deleted. : /
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-03-22 21:17 [#02493616]
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^
correct link
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2016-03-22 21:24 [#02493617]
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fuck them and the jackals feasting on them
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freqy
on 2016-03-22 21:29 [#02493619]
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tnx hypie, I shall read this.
Not sure how I feel after today, as I was shocked, but many of us spectating from afar were not as shocked as we all should be, as this is becoming far too common place, so, I am not sure what to type, I just wish for peace.
freqy x
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-03-22 21:35 [#02493621]
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^ yeah its hard for me to say anything constructive about it, rather than i wish it wasnt happening,
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2016-03-22 21:48 [#02493622]
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where is fleetmouse
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2016-03-22 21:55 [#02493623]
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i would just like to say about that article that these individual acts does not represent an entire community and/or entire belief, it's obvious but also not very obvious
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2016-03-22 22:01 [#02493625]
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also crime is not connected with terrorism at all
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-03-22 22:07 [#02493626]
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LAZY_TITLE
just been reading this, seems like a mix of being totally feckless and complacent, and having administrative weird setup, so thats part of the problem
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2016-03-22 22:09 [#02493627]
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i would rather try to find an explanation of what these bastards do in similar acts perpetrated by people of different ethnicity. i think what you'll find is that these represent the most fucked up people in every society. simple
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-03-22 22:13 [#02493628]
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yes its true, scapegoating a whole aspect of society isnt going to help
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-03-22 22:15 [#02493629]
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i think its more inherent culture hatred of the west from angry young men, who use the veil of religion as a pretext for releasing their angst, thats my view anyway, how big an impact religion has on making someone blowing themselves up im not sure, it might be a large component but how large i have no idea
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2016-03-22 22:28 [#02493630]
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i don't know, i only speak for what i have seen. i don't think anger alone can do that. everyone can be angry for a variety of reasons. and i think religion here has the sentiment of belonging as the color of a t-shirt in a L.A. neighborhood. everytime i found myself in front someone that gave me the feeling of talking extremism or radicalization it was alway someone that i felt was fucked up. really fucked up. as my online dictionary translates, sinister, evil, malevolent.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-03-22 22:32 [#02493631]
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yes truth be told i cant understand it or comprehend it, its an alien mode of thought
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2016-03-22 22:49 [#02493632]
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just don't fall into generalization and the stereotypes the media imposes you. you would be surpised to know that their mindset is closer to something you have already encountered in your life than something you aren't aware of, even if you never met a muslim, or a salafist, or whatever you want to call them.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-03-22 23:05 [#02493633]
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yeah your right about that they are all fascists just on the different end of the spectrum, i know its very dangerous to generalise,
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big
from lsg on 2016-03-23 03:42 [#02493635]
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IS really has a childish mindset, still playing cowboys and indians, or westerner and whatever medieval muslim caricature. but certainly not in a good way.
rip victims, g/l survivors and families and friends.
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big
from lsg on 2016-03-23 03:43 [#02493636]
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fleets's our Ja
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2016-03-23 06:52 [#02493637]
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allah's so sick of this shit, I tell's ye
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SignedUpToLOL
from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2016-03-23 11:48 [#02493639]
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As usual, the first concern after yet another islamist atrocity that targets non-muslims is "how will this affect muslims?" If you're such a problematic people maybe you need to fucking change.
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SignedUpToLOL
from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2016-03-23 11:58 [#02493640]
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I see they pulled that fucking stupid #CallBrussels exercise in offering up your hipster anus video.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2016-03-23 16:22 [#02493643]
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well, talking about problematic people waving archaic religions maybe muslims aren't really the only ones that in the need of a change
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2016-03-23 16:24 [#02493644]
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that
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SignedUpToLOL
from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2016-03-23 17:58 [#02493655]
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That's called whataboutery.
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SignedUpToLOL
from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2016-03-23 18:30 [#02493659]
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Oh sorry, I missed it, you mean the jews. Well if they're the ones pushing your buttons, and you act entirely predictably, I'd still suggest you have to change, if only for your own good, let alone everyone fucking elses.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2016-03-23 20:10 [#02493665]
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no i mean christians too. i'm not muslim by the way
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SignedUpToLOL
from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2016-03-24 13:32 [#02493671]
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As a florist, chalk manufacturer and supplier of high-powered lighting I only look forward to more religiously-inspired attacks (not necessarily muslim, but of course they will be)
The One-Stop Shop for All Your Terror-Sentimentalizing Ne...
Post-Jihad Gesture Theater: Je Suis Sick of It
A terrorist attack has happened in Europe. Let the standa...
Europe Is Again at War
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-03-24 14:16 [#02493672]
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^ yes hollow gestures indeed, these flowery sentiments sort of partially mask the seriousness of the situation,
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-03-24 14:19 [#02493673]
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funny how everyone sort of forgot about the attacks in turkey
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SignedUpToLOL
from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2016-03-24 14:38 [#02493674]
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I suppose the difference was that, in this instance, there wasn't the deep suspicion that the government had done it themselves in order to accelerate their wishes to carry out attacks on their own people and their neighbours. Did Brussels shut down all media when the bombs went off? No. Did Ankara? Yes. Why fucking might that be?
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SignedUpToLOL
from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2016-03-24 14:41 [#02493675]
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What was Yemen's response to the bombs in Ankara? Do you think they lit up any remaining building with the Turkish flag? Saudi Arabia? Morocco? Algeria? All in mourning writing something in chalk. Some feckless "refugee" holding up a sign given to him by a jobless european volunteer that says "Soz 4 Ankara"?
Fuck me a river.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2016-03-24 16:37 [#02493676]
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feckless refugee
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-03-24 18:17 [#02493681]
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^ Brussel sprouts?
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-03-24 18:19 [#02493682]
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yeah i suppose that makes sense, is there any definite proof that Turkey did it to themselves?
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freqy
on 2016-03-24 18:22 [#02493683]
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If this was Islam causing trouble then why would a Muslim bomb a place where more Muslims could be? This does not make sense.
why bomb Europe, when so many musilm migrants are just about to travel across Europe and are in need of a safe happy passage.
Why target a train station 'before' the mass migration? They need that train station to work!
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-03-24 18:28 [#02493684]
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I agree that it hardly makes any sense, i would say that the mind of a fundamentalist probably isn't the most logical to begin with
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SignedUpToLOL
from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2016-03-24 18:52 [#02493685]
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Well yeah, that's the chump I had in mind.
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freqy
on 2016-03-24 19:08 [#02493686]
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Well its hard to help the situation, if we don’t really know the whole story.
If we did not pollute so much and got into solar sooner and did not bomb innocent people in eastern cities and all worked together to grow organic food, did not use non biodegradable materials, made sure the wage gap was not so extreme and no one went hungry and so forth. maybe we would have had to take many steps back...but once we started walking forward again we would all be going at a good pace and not falling over and down into pits of hell.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-03-24 19:13 [#02493687]
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^ i feel totally helpless, someone was posting encoh powell quotes like i told you so on facebook, people fall back into old prejudices and biases, take things out of context, twist them, add irrelevant arguments, make a nuanced situation one tracked. Im really sick of it, i thought we were meant to be civilized and think with our heads, everyone around me is like oooo imigration and stuff people who normally are really rational and been left wing all their lives, they are falling into the usual trap
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-03-24 19:29 [#02493689]
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your right invading the wrong countries is partly the catalyst for these events, is it the root cause im not so sure, i wouldn't absolve radical muslims of what they are doing either. You know what this situation is starting to resemble? it reminds me of Israel and Palestine, blaming each other ad infinitum, because neither side is ready to apportion their own share of the blame, i can see their being a good end to any of this, too many reactionaries on both sides, too little political will to make hard choices
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-03-24 19:30 [#02493690]
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cant
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-03-24 19:36 [#02493691]
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i think the worst thing the west has ever done is help prop up that source of evil Saudi Arabia, thast a source for a lot of the worlds woes, thats were wahhabism comes from,
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chachmaster3000
on 2016-03-24 20:18 [#02493692]
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Anyone ever think about the disenfranchisement and participatory malaise between state and society? Corporatism and resultant homogeneity of culture going on in the west? The rise of hyper individualism? Does it sometimes make you feel lost or without a purpose?
There are societies experiencing far more frequent and complex and overreaching issues than any societal suffering in the west. These terrorists are lost in ways most of us will never be able to comprehend, at least until we are living it.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2016-03-24 21:09 [#02493693]
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its alright guys i think things might pan out ok soonish
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2016-03-24 21:14 [#02493694]
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but you wont feel good (youll feel very anxious) if you dont do a bit of proper reading on all this. just saying
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freqy
on 2016-03-24 23:27 [#02493695]
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So from your reading, you know why they bombed a train station where Muslims may be, and not a military or Gov building and why they would do such a thing before the mass migration of spring and summer?
If it was a calculated attack on the people, were the bombers trying to have the boarders strengthened? More funds for police and military?
That does not add up. Unless it was not IS.
if that that was the objective...to create an attack before spring migration to encourage better boarder control.. then why is the media telling us it 'was' IS.
IS do not want better boarder control. Surly.
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SignedUpToLOL
from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2016-03-25 16:33 [#02493701]
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If you write "boarders" once more I will appeal that you have your DLA stopped.
Your wet cardboard mind just cannot accept, freqy, and you're not alone on this so don't feel too bad, you cannot accept that people will do this. For your traumatised, fluffy excuse for a brain to survive you have to think that there has to be some other reason for this attack. And all the other ones. And the one tomorrow. It has to be a false flag attack. People aren't this awful. It's our fault, we did it to ourselves. It's more complicated than we can understand. It's not Muslims finding the only way to reconcile their bat-fuck identity with the 21st Century is to blow themselves, and anyone around them, up.
Who behaves like that? What angry, outdated, redundant culture lashes out on one hand so muderously and at the same time so pathetically gay and petulant?
Any time any of these loons commits an atrocity, their reasoning left behind on their shitty Facebook page is seldom as "nuanced" and "complex" as you'd give them credit for. Do you read ISIS's cod-religious, pompous, blousy proclamations and think "Hmmm, well, I don't agree with their methods entirely but their legitimate grievances are based on a nuanced understanding of geopolitics and history"?
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