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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2015-05-10 17:23 [#02486542]
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My macbook busted so I'm going all gear for the moment, but I need a sequencer and I'd like some recommendations. I'm trying to stick to a budget so built in synth/sampling is nice but not necessary. It doesn't have to be new either, as long as it's not so old that it only saves to floppy or zip, etc. I'd like it to be intuitive enough that it doesn't send weird program change messages on its own or frustrating things like that.
Maybe an older MPC or something else?
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2015-05-11 10:12 [#02486558]
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I don't even know what a sequencer is, the system made me too poor to afford one anyway. I would search youtube for: sequencer review. You can still use youtube to learn things like which sequencer to buy and flat earth theory, they are still mostly in the phase of appearing like a public commons, not yet at the phase where they use the power from their first mover advantage and monopoly the public built to shut it all down and turn it into insider-only unlevel playing field rigged market propaganda surveilled weaponized piece of infrastructure. All other centralized systems take this path, ebay already did, soundcloud will eventually, you can't trust anything.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2015-05-11 13:34 [#02486563]
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possibly one of the small Yamaha QY sequencers, used - they have onboard sounds but also midi out. I think russelldust has one, he'd be able to tell you more.
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SignedUpToLOL
from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2015-05-11 14:19 [#02486569]
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Can't be done.
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Descent
from the salt of Satan's sweat. (United Kingdom) on 2015-05-11 14:47 [#02486572]
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Yeah, RD is a beast with the QY!
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2015-05-12 02:10 [#02486584]
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Basically I have two situations to tackle. One is my Volcas which have no external save or midi out. So it's either sample them, sequence them externally, or just be OK with capturing sessions and only having audio if I clear the onboard patterns.
The other is my Waldorf Q which has a 32 step sequencer but it's old school. I'd like to chain patterns and make song arrangements. Over tried using Ableton for this stuff and I just kind of hate it.
I'll check out the QY though thx.
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2015-05-21 04:05 [#02486750]
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I think for now I'll try to sequence from the Waldorf. I can't make a song arrangement per se, but 16 32-step patterns is better than the 8 8-step ones on the Volcas. Fading in and out patterns will just give it a Tri Repetae or Analord feel. Plus you can actually transpose patterns over the keyboard which gives more options for changes.
Later I'll decide whether to get a sequencer or look into tablet or touch screen mpc type options. I just always had problems using midi with Ableton Live.
wMw a tracker is a kind of sequencer.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2015-05-22 12:54 [#02486764]
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this looks qool
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2015-05-22 21:39 [#02486767]
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That price point tho. It'd be perfect for like half that. More in the range of Arturia's beat pro, except that's monophonic.
I might just get a newer drum machine like the Akai XR20 and use it to frame song arrangements and maybe sequence a bass synth while I live toggle patterns on other gear.
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larn
from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2015-05-23 08:00 [#02486776]
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If you're used to the volcas then why not get a Korg ESX 1 SD? You can store all your songs on a memory card (better to get the SD version)
I just got a volca sample, sounding pretty shit hot at the moment, i like the limitations because it makes me work harder with that i have
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2015-05-23 09:12 [#02486777]
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A Yamaha An1x (with usb mod) or an Elektron unit would cover your needs.
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2015-05-23 09:13 [#02486778]
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sorry, rm1x
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2015-05-23 16:07 [#02486786]
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i like the limitations because it makes me work harder with that i have
That's exactly where I'm at. In a Daw when I want the part to change I'd just write a new pattern and punch in or hit record and play. That's easy, except that now the most native version of my song is basically a DAT backing track. Even if there's midi clips and softsynths it's like having vector layers in a Photoshop file.
Now I have to do things like run the change parts to the sub outs and switch over on the mixer because all the patterns play at once or are buried in dials and menus that aren't instantly accessible.
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2015-05-23 16:25 [#02486787]
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Yea if I could afford an Octatrack I'd be all set. Sample it, sequence it, cares. I bet you could resample everything and not even worry about load times.
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2015-05-23 16:47 [#02486788]
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I've been documenting my efforts on facebook.
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freqy
on 2015-05-23 18:25 [#02486789]
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(didnr read all the thread so probably might not be rel)
atari st cubase
better still get a cheap pc an old p3 for 25 squid. midi and even wav, aiff
get xp next to nothing , probably come on the pc.
get cubase next to nothing.
run midi through serial or get a cheap usb midi thingy
ebay
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2015-05-25 13:23 [#02486796]
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I use an octatrack although it's surprisingly limited as a MIDI sequencer if you're using polyphonic instruments. Have you looked at the Arcturus stuff? The beatstep is great for a single synth and the pro looks nice with two sequencer tracks and a drum track.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2015-05-25 13:26 [#02486797]
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I men arturia, fucking auto correct
beat step pro
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2015-05-25 13:51 [#02486799]
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I read the specs and it said it was monophonic only. Then I watched the demo video and sure enough everything was arpeggiated.
Makes sense about the octatrack if it's primarily a sampler. The DSP lover in me would be OK with a resampling workflow, but I think maybe the Yamaha rm1x would sequence my Q pretty nice. 16 channel, polyphonic, pattern chaining and song arrangement I feel lush just thinking about it.
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2015-05-25 22:17 [#02486810]
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Ironically a large part of my motivation is that my Macbook broke and so I've been using Cubase VST 5 on an iBook running Mac OS 9 to record.
I COULD sequence my gear from it. I have more than one USB midi interface. I've had the ability to sequence midi from a computer for 15 years tho and there's a reason I barely dabbled in it. Always latency or sync problems or some other wonkiness, or it just won't play the sound. Now using a midi controller for softsynths? Absolutely, it works. If I had Maschine or something I might feel differently who knows.
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diamondtron
on 2015-05-27 11:09 [#02486840]
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