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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2015-05-06 12:54 [#02486398]
Points: 10789 Status: Regular
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#edstone was bad but u should still vote for labour.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2015-05-06 13:06 [#02486399]
Points: 10789 Status: Regular
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The Conservative party is a dangerous party. Driven by the raging cultural warriors of the right, half out of its mind with fear of Nigel Farage, it no longer conserves but destroys with as little thought for the consequences as a brattish public schoolboy trashing a restaurant.
Its threat to repeal the Human Rights Act and pull out of the European convention on human rights reveals how it has become its own negation. Conservatives flatter themselves that they defend the individual against the over-mighty state. Yet they propose to tamper with rights hundreds of millions of people recognise as their last defence against state power. Tory officials tell me and anyone else who wonders if they know what they are doing that we have no need to worry. Existing European rights will be incorporated into David Cameron’s new British bill of rights. All that will change is that English judges will no longer have to follow the rulings of the Strasbourg court.
If that’s truly the limit of Cameron’s ambition, the only question that arises is: why bother? I don’t believe it is.
Nick Cohen
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2015-05-06 16:13 [#02486401]
Points: 31015 Status: Regular
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is it just me or does Ed Milliband look a bit like an undeveloped fetus, i will probably vote for him anyway the feckless wretch
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SignedUpToLOL
from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2015-05-06 16:30 [#02486402]
Points: 2853 Status: Regular
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One has to vote, one has to. But which out of this lot...? I have ZERO love for the Tory Party. ZERO. I can understand Conservatives, Tory voters, but the actual Tory Party? Dear God. I should favour Labour but they've lost the plot. The Greens? They're the popular choice amongst those that bash the LibLabCon but... have you seen their policies? They are BATSHIT.
Whoever gets in, or whatever mishmash, the outome will be the same. I suspect we will get involved in Syria whoever gets in, there's been a growing resurgence of "news" again from that area. Cover ups of Establishment child abuse will remain covered up. Reports on illegal wars, meant to have been out in 2010, will remain unpublished. Controls on immigration will be talked up whilst building an eight-lane bridge from North Africa to Southampton to save on migrant deaths. No significant numbers of affordable new housing built, no significant infrastructure expansion. Anything not yet sold to the Russians, Saudis or Qataris will simply be given to them. Oh, and we'll go to war with Russia, to cap it all off.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2015-05-06 18:19 [#02486410]
Points: 18042 Status: Lurker
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For a change, things actually look better election wise in Canada and the US.
The NDP just took control of Alberta and I'm hoping that's a sign of things to come in the federal election this fall, because the "Liberals" are fucking cunts indistinguishable from the conservatives on most issues.
And in the US, Bernie Sanders running for prez and endorsing popular Elizabeth Warren style things like breaking up the fucking banks is going to at least drive Hillary slightly left of the center-right-neolib-neocon groove she's worn in her chair.
What are the batshit policies of the english greens, I wish to laugh.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2015-05-06 20:45 [#02486411]
Points: 10789 Status: Regular | Followup to fleetmouse: #02486410
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Green Party is full of these kinds of twats.
deputy twat
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2015-05-06 21:23 [#02486412]
Points: 10789 Status: Regular | Followup to SignedUpToLOL: #02486402
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vote labour to defeat tories. then we can spend next 5 years more comfortably assessing what improvements we can make to the center left (which thankfully isnt that left at all). the tories cant pull off center right and are going to tailor themselves to ukip voters. the only way to a sensible center is then thru the labour left.
if the tories get in they will shamelessly pander to loudmouth rightwing protest voters that know the tories are scared of them. tories as per tradition will also fuck the poor and immigrants pretty hard. that will fan flames and everywhere i see dry kindling.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2015-05-06 21:43 [#02486414]
Points: 10789 Status: Regular
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bob from brockley keeps a good blog on uk politics some of his musings might be useful
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2015-05-06 21:45 [#02486415]
Points: 31015 Status: Regular
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Imagine if peter Andre was prime minister and listening to good music was a thought crime.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2015-05-06 21:47 [#02486416]
Points: 31015 Status: Regular
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George Galloway is right cnunt good public speaker though
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2015-05-06 22:11 [#02486417]
Points: 10789 Status: Regular | Followup to Hyperflake: #02486416
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yah its totally sickening how much money he makes doing what he does. i'd love to see how ppl like galloway make connections with dictators. does nick griffin just phone up syria and ask if theres anything he can help out with..
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2015-05-06 22:39 [#02486418]
Points: 31015 Status: Regular
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what a toady creep
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2015-05-06 23:44 [#02486419]
Points: 18042 Status: Lurker | Followup to AMPI MAX: #02486411
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ah, troofers, not surprising... I tend to think of troofers as right wing but political wings meet on the extreme flipside.
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wavephace
from off the chain on 2015-05-07 00:46 [#02486420]
Points: 3098 Status: Lurker
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just vote for me ok
write in "Richie Ball" - NDC political party
reasonably extreme and extremely reasonable
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2015-05-07 01:26 [#02486422]
Points: 6123 Status: Lurker
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ampimax, there's only 30 right wing tory mps left. the rest are lib dems in disguise. anything populist coming out of cameron's mouth is a lie to win votes.
probably the tories and libdems will merge to make a new party. Do What Nathaniel Rothschild Wants Party. there is already a british constitution (unwritten yet effective.) your vote is less than effective, only converting to judaism gives you a chance to navigate the chaos. come on guys, we all know the jews are in charge. let's be jews too. it's time to convert.
nick cohen isnt too bad but he does deny some obvious stuff about how the system works, not sure if it's deliberate.
fuck the parties. judaism has the answers. fuck palestine. israel 4 life
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2015-05-07 01:53 [#02486423]
Points: 10789 Status: Regular | Followup to umbroman3: #02486422
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you read this? LAZY_TITLE
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larn
from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2015-05-07 02:27 [#02486424]
Points: 5473 Status: Regular | Show recordbag
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The private school pompous pricks are going to:
*let armament manufacturing companies buy out the NHS, *carry on taxing your disabled nan for her spare bedroom. *carry on supporting big businesses; letting them get away with 0 hour contracts and giving them big tax breaks
*do nothing about major corporations dogging tax while poor people pay their tax and end up in a food bank.
*Keep demonizing the poor and unemployed with the anti scrounger propaganda while the banking criminals get away with murder.
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ddrummondd
on 2015-05-07 02:38 [#02486425]
Points: 558 Status: Regular | Followup to SignedUpToLOL: #02486402
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preaching to the coveted (sic)
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ddrummondd
on 2015-05-07 02:39 [#02486426]
Points: 558 Status: Regular
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fuck me wheres my avatar gone cunts
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2015-05-07 13:54 [#02486434]
Points: 6123 Status: Lurker
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Fletch
Fletch Lives
Fletch Lives in Israel
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2015-05-07 20:34 [#02486450]
Points: 18042 Status: Lurker | Followup to umbroman3: #02486434
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we have reviewed your application and are unable to admit you as a member of the tribe at this time
thank you for considering the tribe
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2015-05-07 20:42 [#02486451]
Points: 14867 Status: Regular
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voted for labour, although where i live is a safe seat anyway.
how come people think who they vote for should be a secret? seems like the effect of some divide and conquer tactics to me.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2015-05-07 21:02 [#02486452]
Points: 18042 Status: Lurker | Followup to horsefactory: #02486451
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it should remain a private and unspoken matter so bosses don't know who to promote and who to fire
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Cliff Glitchard
from DEEP DOWN INSIDE on 2015-05-08 00:38 [#02486460]
Points: 4158 Status: Lurker
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I voted UKIP. Probably more out of dislike for the Tories and Labour than anything. I hope it increases pressure on them to buck their ideas up, as in reality it is, and will only ever be, a two horse race between these two, despite neither really being worthy of a vote.
Like choosing Cancer or Aids.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2015-05-08 01:16 [#02486461]
Points: 18042 Status: Lurker
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the problem is winner take all voting schemes. everyone should switch to proportional representation.
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Cliff Glitchard
from DEEP DOWN INSIDE on 2015-05-08 02:30 [#02486462]
Points: 4158 Status: Lurker
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FPTP is BS, IMO.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2015-05-08 13:14 [#02486473]
Points: 10789 Status: Regular
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more tories then.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2015-05-08 13:41 [#02486474]
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cos u had to get the tories out u see....it wasn't really like cancer/aids now was it. big differences. very stupid.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2015-05-08 13:55 [#02486475]
Points: 10789 Status: Regular
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pressure on them to buck up ideas? what message did we tell the 2 horses?
we want trash policies for our hysterical standpoints on petty issues.
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Cliff Glitchard
from DEEP DOWN INSIDE on 2015-05-08 14:47 [#02486476]
Points: 4158 Status: Lurker | Followup to AMPI MAX: #02486475
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As it stands, absolutely zero. However, a 13% vote share of near 4m under PR would have rightly won 80+ seats, showing their 'trash policies for hysterical standpoints on petty issues' are deemed of value to voters.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2015-05-08 17:53 [#02486477]
Points: 19368 Status: Lurker
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listening to this while reading the thread before going to presidential election poll this Sunday...not much difference across Europe...or the World, even ?? scary. democracy = shit - but IS monarchy THE solution ? dunno
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2015-05-08 18:22 [#02486478]
Points: 10789 Status: Regular | Followup to obara: #02486477
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obara come to israel.
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drill rods
from 6AM-8PM NO PARKING (Canada) on 2015-05-11 14:50 [#02486574]
Points: 1171 Status: Regular | Followup to fleetmouse: #02486410
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That Alberta result was mad. Wonder how long they'll last tho, before the oil patch revolts?
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betamaxheadroom
on 2015-05-12 02:00 [#02486583]
Points: 1066 Status: Regular | Followup to AMPI MAX: #02486478
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not online. it's bad enough irl.
but.. ampi, you mention the abolition of the human rights act as if humans have no rights anymore. you sound like derek hatton.
it's being re-written AS YOU KNOW so lets have your [mong] opinion on that and what you think about OUR "bill of rights".
i'm not saying youre wrong but dont fall into the trap of echoing the media bullshit about this. the tories are stripping away a couple of things and trying to give our country more power over certain legislation. now, i am more than aware what this is but are you? i see no evidence of this rather than a chance to slate a party you don't agree with with without the understanding of why.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2015-05-12 11:34 [#02486601]
Points: 10789 Status: Regular | Followup to betamaxheadroom: #02486583
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this is better.
dont you feel really alarmed about characters like grayling?
grayling
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2015-05-12 11:47 [#02486602]
Points: 31015 Status: Regular
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The barbarians have stormed the gates, this time they are wearing suits
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2015-05-12 17:40 [#02486614]
Points: 10789 Status: Regular | Followup to Hyperflake: #02486602
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betamax is right dont indulge. you know about chomsky being evil now, so you mustnt say these kinds of things
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