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jnasato
from 777gogogo (Japan) on 2015-03-13 12:10 [#02485674]
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If you're surrounded by grandchildren, on those last moments, you could give them a tale of your hidden treasures, give them 95% of the info, and then be off to be re-incorporated into the ether in pureform. They will spend much energy to find this non-existent treasure, but through perseverance and exploring new lands, their greed will be replaced by respect for humanity and they will discover the power of one's own inner-strength. They searched for fake treasures... but the treasure they discovered, was their own hearts. They started with a lie... but what they discovered, was the ultimate truth. (directed by Christopher Nolan, starring Danny DeVito as fleetmouse, Michael Dudikoff as the greedy grandchild who inadvertently discovers how to become a ninja)
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2015-03-13 13:03 [#02485675]
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^ then sulu emerges from under the bedsheet
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Moot
from Antarctica on 2015-03-14 18:18 [#02485722]
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But nothing forces you to live without pain nor aging. The point of curing aging is in part so you actually have a choice: anywhere between that totally utopic (and probably less likely to happen) painless youth forever, or repetitive aging cycles incl. "old" age pain in the latter end of each, or just plain opting out of any therapy and growing old "naturally".
On dying, that will remain, at the very least as a choice (too). Curing aging probably won't cure falling into a vat of bubbling lava. IMO a lot of people will take the current aversion to risk to even more ridiculous extremes. Because it won't just be a couple decades of retirement at risk, but effectively eternity.
Myself I probably would do whatever it takes to live to see at least the local galactic neighbourhood (or something like that), and then assess whether to keep going. ... Something like that.
RussellDust - Something tells me we'd see a resurgence in hedonism, should those so-inclined be able to indefinitely stay young. I think a lot of things would "change" that way: everything staying mostly the same, but adapted to an indefinite time budget. Buddhist monks might not break the same records as MMA fighters, but with aging cured they both would be that much more whatever they were under aging.
In any case I think the inherent wrongness of agelessness (whether chronic rejuvenation or flat out age-freeze) is overestimated. People aren't going to become inhuman any more than they became inhuman sex fiends when contraceptives happened. Things will definitely change, though. One of the most immediate negatives IMHO ought to be Big Pharma growing its tentacles around the rejuvenation industry.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2015-03-14 22:09 [#02485730]
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Because they are afraid of dead? I don't care about god or religion, its all bullshit.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2015-03-14 22:16 [#02485731]
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My large sons John-John and Little Bobby say that Christ is the answer.
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RussellDust
on 2015-03-15 13:11 [#02485745]
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I have to link this thread, if only for the amazing facts about Jesus.
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jnasato
from 777gogogo (Japan) on 2015-03-16 07:54 [#02485779]
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One of the main points is that forward progression in anything (whether it be getting older, or getting younger), takes energy, and most perceive acting against resistance somewhat painful. This is why it is much easier to be lazy and fall back on habits, than it is to grow as a strong human being-- working out, learning, executing, thinking-- these all take mad amounts of energy and are quite hard for the general human. So pain is actually a given for forward progress, BUT, it is not bad in anyway whatsoever. And this is one of the main flaws of big pharma or whatever the fuck-- besides everything just being made for money and not intending to help, the whole "help" aspect of it all is under the assumption that something can actually be resolved without pain or at least mental/physical resistance to environment and actions, and this is wholly false. Though on a positive note, the struggle required to resolve aging in the self- or mental physical issues- is actually worth more than the billions of dollars put into research for a substance intending to do the same through chemical dependancy. Because true human willpower can actually resolve issues, whereas money and drugs can only reshape perception to allow problems to be seen as non-issues (problems that are deep rooted in the ether and one's energetic body, spanning through infinite time forwards and back through one's whole family line forwards and back to the collective consciousness of One).
So in truth, anything that you have ever wanted and will ever want, are right at your fingertips-- always has been, always will be. Depending on some sort of tech to help you achieve the personal growth required to accomplish (whether that be living 500 years or getting laid or writing the ultimate IDM anthem), is merely taking away credit and energy from yourself in the hopes that one's laziness will somehow come through in the end (it won't).
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