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Does anyone know how long cassette tapes or other analogue media last before they start to demagnetize, become unusable, i saw 30 years on the net is this accurate? |
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probly depends on the tape material and how it stored etc. i have some early-mid 80s tapes that sound pretty good and some early-mid 90s tape that sound prety bad |
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It is the same for cd's. Some of the one's I bought when I small in the 1980's have started bronzing. There is no control really. A bit like once you detect a harddrive going wrong. Make a backup. Tapes in general are pretty stable as long as not left in the light or heat extremes. |
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if im not mistaken tape is considered to be one of the most stable storage mediums for data (save for an EMF event), second to acid-free paper, but of course that depends on the kind of tape used. |
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cheers for the replies, yes ive had cd rot on very early cdrs, was the organic dye they used in them reacting with sunlight i think. The reason i was asking was twofold. firstly i have some stuff on casette i made 15 year ago so i might try and salvage it, and also i was listening to the afx soundcloud stuff and wondering if there is ever going to be an effort to conserve excellent music for future posterity, i suppose Richard hasn't given it much though as he probably thinks its a bit wank. One of his kids could start recording fart noises over them or pass them infront of a magnet. Also look at buzz caner bet he has tons of stuff, needs to be preserved. |
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Also was wondering what media everyone uses, its probably been asked before, anyone have any preferences and why so? |
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I double-cloud anything I like or cherish. Don't trust physical media really, external hdds etc. I had over 500 gb of fav music and BOOM - ext hdd not responsible overnight. I think some decent ext hdd or two plus cloud is enough. Depending on how rare/hard to find the stuff you archive is, too. |
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yeah its less faffing around thats for sure, i don't want to pay over the odds for some obsolete technology, i should probably just get a better sound card, ive had a bit of bad luck with falling hd's got a stack of them my brother lent me a rite blocker to access them and found like 50 tracks i forgot id done, dont have the cash for a raid configuration or anything so will just have to back up when i can |
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i believe in the three-pronged approach to data. for anything sensitive or essential, you should always have three copies: original - local backup - off site backup that means you should have a local hdd that you backup to weekly for random retrieval needs, but you also have off site persistent backup in case of catastrophic data loss. for off site backup, i hugely recommend crashplan - you set it up once and, data gods willing, you'll never have to think about it again. only $80/year or even less if you get 2+ friends together and all go in on the family plan. as for physical media, i'm too young to have every recorded anything to tape that didn't almost immediately get recorded back into my computer, but yeah, getting a solid DAC and starting to transfer to hi-res digital (24 bit flac) would be a good idea if you want to preserve that stuff as is. |
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yes at the moment i have a drop box account and i share vital stuff with my best mate so i always have at least one copy, i think the real link in the chain is myself being lazy, with hard drives being so vast and generating so much data you find yourself kind of wishing it was simpler, sometimes i have to plug in different drives and do a 10 minute keyword search as there is that many folders ive forgotten where i stored stuff, and then half the time i find its a anachronistic file format and i have to update drivers or whatnot |
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also try mega co nz if you haven't - they give much more for free than dropbox or box.com - works fine on android phones too |
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^ cheers seen others using that site wondered what it was |
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This thread reminds me that I gotta listen to my Ultraman soundtrack cassette tape that I've had since I was 4 or so, and also my Kris Kross album. I used to record random shit onto tape when I was sub-10, but I think all of that has been lost. BUT I still have some tapes from that era, just gotta scan through many minutes of empty hissing to maybe find a jewel... OH FUCK! That's what it was-- I still have my Walkman from 1993, but the tape part is broken cuz I took it apart and put it back together, missing some springs or something. So I have to buy a tape player... *remember* Thanks for the reminder. Godspeed, analog warriors. |
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^ yeah....taping is good. if I knew....I'd get tape recorder back around '93...to record all the rehearsals of school bands ...and my bands....and anything. would be huge sample source later when I got into making electronics, at least! |
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i had a 4 track that stopped working so i digitized side A forward side B backwards and edited them together. they were all 20 minute high school jamz that i edited down to 2:30 for kicks. i'm not even sure where those digital files are, but i do still have the tapes. |
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last year i managed to get some old games to load on my ti99/4a from an old basf 90 tape that dates back to 1982, games i typed in from magazines. it's a pretty versatile medium. |
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