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Here is a short 3 minute clip (46 minutes in) that shows where and how many nuclear bombs were detonated between 1945-1998. After all the suffering, death and environmental devastation in Japan.... They still needed to do all this?....... |
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If it makes you feel better, a lot of good science came out of it. We learnt a fucktonne about the earth's internal structure by using nukes as sources of seismic waves. We wouldn't have such a good global network of seismographs today if they weren't set up to listen for nuclear tests |
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cool thank you, I was hoping something nice may have come from this but 2000+ errg. : E |
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I guess we also got nuclear power from nuclear weapons. Obviously that's one of the reasons nuke plants are controversial, but most plants today are of designs totally unrelated to weapons production (e.g. CANDU in Canada) so the nuclear power industry no longer deserves that association IMO |
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knowledge of fusion too, through using fission. : ) |
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Isn't CANDU being sold off and shut down? I hear it's a very controversial move, but someone seems to like the idea of medical isotope scarcity. Fuck nuclear energy. Cloud Atlas says it all. A few more key earthquakes, tidal waves, or wars and the power plant meltdowns will do us in |
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Plus we have loads of good post apocalyptic fiction/books/games/movies which is always good fun |
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CANDU is a design for nuclear energy plants, not a single reactor and not a medical one. All the Canadian nuclear energy plants are CANDU, and a bunch in China I think Ontario electricity is ~60% from CANDU nukes, and it needs them really. Quebec is blessed with fuckloads of hydro but Ontario can never match their production because of far reduced hydraulic head on all the rivers going into Hudson/James Bays through the lowlands. So it's either nukes, semi-dirty gas or very dirty coal unfortunately Fortunately in Canada we have fuckloads of uranium and fuckloads of good, safe ground to bury waste in (until we have more reactors that can burn the waste anyway lol). You'll never get an earthquake atop the Shield. I genuinely think nukes are a good bet for Canada (and for Australia which also has world-class ground for ore and for waste disposal) |
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Ever seen "Threads"? |
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i know of it yes, its meant to be incredibly depressing, when the wind blows is another one that can put you on suicide watch |
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Maybe small reactors that could power grids on par with the demands of a military sub or acc. Full scale plants are dangerous and short sighted imo. With solar being on par with coal and in fierce production, and with the leaps and bound physics and technology is moving at...nukes are antiquated and dangerous. They're also built by firms who are in it for profits. They don't necessarily care if faults show 30 years after the fact. You're also dealing with a WORLD that has different codes and standards and varying levels of dishonesty, disregard, and corruption. No nukes. Pop science alternative trash |
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The medical isotope plant in chalk rover or Pembroke area is to be or has been sold off and shut down is what I heard. And there are only two plants in the world that produce these specific isotopes. Yay capitalism. Perfection. Resistance futile yes |
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McMaster in Hamilton has another medical isotope reactor. But yep bullshit to close one down Well fair enough but I do think CANDU-style nukes are safe and a good investment. Look at the Bruce plant in western ON, one of the biggest nuke plants in the world, you never hear a peep out of it. Safe as houses Solar is almost there in terms of tech, my main worry is that we can't roll it out as a primary energy source because of limits on REE supply for manufacture (it's literally my job to look for REEs at the moment, they're hot shit in the mining biz these days). Hopefully we will get lucky and see improvements in ore refinement and/or solar tech to make it more viable Solar and wind would work a treat if we had a hardline efficiency drive and were willing to cut back on energy use - I am all for it, but most people probably are not. Consequently I'm not sure solar can do the heavy lifting that we need. Nukes and hydro are the only non-dirty power sources capable of that IMO. |
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The pollution of Earth is justified. If a group has a large underground hotel bunker complex with stock piles of supplies that can last over a 1000 years, heirloom seed vaults , air, water filtration, hydroponic gardens powered by military fission power..Why care about the Earths pollution and the pleb's that inhabit it? Tax hard, capitalise, expand the preservation system for the (so called 'elite') human race. The pollution of Earth is justified. |
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Mr Rods what of fusion power? have you seen : bbc horizon ' Can we make a star on earth? ' documentary? |
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it's on pirate bay. |
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The inside of Tokamak look very futuristic, I believethey have a lot of issues maintaining a fusion reaction, although they can ignite them for a fraction of a second |
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these things are pretty interesting |
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Fusion would be great but it's still a pipe dream. I'll believe we can pull off commercially viable fusion when it actually happens. Fusion is the real pop-sci trash (at the moment anyway) |
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Oklo is fascinating, I know a bunch of geos who worked at Comuf near there, and who have been to Oklo |
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Dear Mr hyperflakes. please see the documentary i posted! laser fusion has happened ( multiple lasers fired at a single target point) " and it is very close to 'ignition' = the continuation of the fusion reaction . More money was spent on mobile phone ring tones in the UK in 2007 than on the nuclear fusion program. Whether that is the global or uk program? I cant remember, but either way, it makes one wonder if we have our priorities set right? |
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^ that is to Mr Rods too. |
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The laser approach is really interesting, hope its successful and doesn't turn into a white elephant, just imagine the fun stuff you could do with a 500 trillion watt laser, i could imagine it would cook an egg quite quickly and vaporise the pan it was in |
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The documentary also shows how difficult it would be to implement present greener energy production technologies to an vastly increasing world population. it seems fusion is the holy grail. |
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Well i dont think its a conspiracy to say that green technologies have been somewhat suppressed by vested interests, and at the least been ignored for cheaper more expedient means, but yeah i agree fusion does seem at least a generational leap on technological means |
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True, there are probably designs being held back. sick. : ( hyperflake, what do you think about that hotel bunker thing i typed about? could this be why the elite don't care about our Earths environment? |
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I think its more likely that they don't think in an abstract/empathic manner, because its not effecting their immediate or long term future they simply dont give a toss. Its the 'I'm all right jack, screw you' mindset. To be fair most people dont see past the end of their nose, myself included |
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living for today, not tomorrow, not for the future. : ( |
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I think i'm generally optimistic about things, I think if we do have climate change someone will invest a technology to reverse it or circumvent it, if it becomes a priority, we could probably make a self replicating cloud of nanobots if the need was there to do something about it. |
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yes nano bots will be able to filter out pollution and separate and recycle. we need them fast I think Colgate will one day release teeth bots that will constantly clean our teeth , no need to brush again. lol : ) |
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i need some to do the do the hoovering/dusting and wash the dishes, that would be a big help in most peoples lives, perhaps put some in a bottle like shake and vac and sprinkle them where you need them, but make sure they have a short life cycle so they dont become sentient, self replicate and turn your neighbours inside out |
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lol. I need them to do everything for me. I wanna be absolutely purely lazy. : P |
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sprinkle them everywhere lol. |
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Neither ITER nor NIF are useful for public energy. ITER is more about science because fundamentally never going to lead to economical fusion reactor, and NIF is simply about weapons tech. The Z-Pinch Sandia is roughly as far along towards technically breaking even, but I don't know that that one's a useful precursor for useful public fusion either. Alternative experiments are way better bets for useful fusion: MSNW's Helion, Lawrenceville Plasma Physics' DPF, EMC2's Polywell, and General Fusion's piston machine.. Tri-Alpha's experiment is totally shut off from public, but if you look at indirect clues like investors and their patents, it's hard to think they're not making serious headway towards success or clear dead-end. There's a few other ones like Sorlox' seashell-looking setup, but none of them've made as much publicity or gotten as much funding AFAIK |
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Write properly if you are trying to be understood. Acronyms are for idiots. |
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lmgtfy |
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Exactly! Just speak normally and maybe other people will reply. |
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I know fusion is really IDM, but seriously, fuck it until it actually produces commercially-viable amounts of energy. Maybe that will happen in the future but pinning the future of society on the hope that it will happen is stupid yo |
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Those acronyms are standard nomenclature, both in literature and for quick and dirty google lookup. Neither the full pedantic name nor their acronym is more or less informative, so really, who cares. International Thermonuclear Experimental Reactor. ITER. Neither even tells you the most easily understood fact - its toroidal geometry. Never mind anything pertinent to topic - how useful it is beyond pure science work. Useless semantics. |
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Useless post. |
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exactly who gives a shit about acronyms and initianalisms |
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The important thing is that immediately on talking critically about fusion, ITER and NIF have to be seen for the bullshit they are as far as us non scientists care. In fact NIF is the opposite of what most people on this board would approve. Nuclear weapons research. Not cheap & clean energy. |
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ISLAM! |
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Another plus-side of nuclear power, becoming increasingly evident, is geopolitical independence. The EU is unable to seriously stand up to Putin's bullshit because they are all hooked on Russian gas. With nukes comes dependence on relatively non-dickhead countries like Canada and Australia for fuel. That's another reason why Germany's bullshit Energiewende will bite them in the asses. Why the fuck are you cretins shutting down your nukes ?????!!???????????????!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!????!? Building renewables is great but why at the expense of your fucking nukes?!?!?!?!!? I blame Monoid |
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