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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2014-08-08 18:50 [#02474777]
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How much do you think your taste in music is conditioned by the social class you grew up in? Do you look down on people who listen to dumb dance music (i do)?
Do you think techo and dance music in general is the music of the lower classes, because it is functional? It serves a function, to make people dance. It has no value on its own (yes even braindance)
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freqy
on 2014-08-08 19:18 [#02474779]
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I'm not reading random text
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milkywhore
from Land of Lion's Milk (Turkey) on 2014-08-08 20:33 [#02474782]
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lower class watches amy reid licking a toilet seat and smart upper-middle-class watches sasha grey licking a toilet seat
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2014-08-08 20:55 [#02474783]
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And the upper class?
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wavephallus
from London (United Kingdom) on 2014-08-08 21:46 [#02474784]
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Upper class = Burial and die antwoord
Cmon man, aren't you at like, the forefront of this shit?
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2014-08-08 22:11 [#02474785]
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Upper class = Electroacoustic music
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2014-08-08 22:15 [#02474786]
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I posted a torrent to a huge archive of electroacoustic music, a few months ago. You proles didn't listen to it. You are still wanking it to Autechre or whatever.
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wavephallus
from London (United Kingdom) on 2014-08-08 23:04 [#02474789]
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Too cool for autechre yo
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milkywhore
from Land of Lion's Milk (Turkey) on 2014-08-08 23:08 [#02474791]
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upper class do not watch, they're licking the toilet seats themselves
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2014-08-08 23:40 [#02474798]
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Upper class: Nazi Orgy
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2014-08-09 01:55 [#02474799]
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Oh look, there was a sociologist who wrote a book.about this, his name was Paul Bourdieu
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2014-08-09 13:48 [#02474802]
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what's techo? I must be upperclass because I"ve never heard of that..
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milkywhore
from Land of Lion's Milk (Turkey) on 2014-08-09 15:32 [#02474804]
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crasshole butthurting because of a typo
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2014-08-09 17:54 [#02474808]
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I felt like jivverdicker...it is sad. I'm sorry.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2014-08-09 19:18 [#02474819]
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Yeah, making fun of spelling mistakes, thats what the upper class does.
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jnasato
from 777gogogo (Japan) on 2014-08-09 21:40 [#02474830]
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To chime in on this thread with a somewhat real answer.....
In my life experience, it seems "upper class" listen to dance and other pop forms of music most. Like they'll have their ridiculous sound systems with pointless $500 cables, to listen to Earth: The Best Of vol.XXII. But pop dance shit is popular amongst the hyper privileged, because it speaks of the idealistic hedonistic lifestyle that they're used to.
Middle and middle-upper tend to have the best sense, possibly because they've tasted the type of hardships that build character and require deep soul searching and insight, which for some reason- combined with higher than average intelligence- results in being able to come across good music. Fucking every electronic music forum is basically privileged kids having breakdance battles where nobody loses.
"Lower class"- the truest of those people-- dude, they are so focused on just getting food, that they cann't give a shit about music. Their life is dramatic music enough. That being said, in Egypt the "ghetto people" listen to the most phuture shit; a mix of traditional Arab rhythms +electronic/hip hop influence and auto-tuned lyrics, that is looked down upon by the people who can afford a Benz like nothing.
So to answer the original question, my musical tastes have definitely been assisted by my "social class". When I grew up in ze City of Angels, my tastes were primarily pop. But then I went to boarding school in HI and international school in Tokyo, where I was introduced to so much new music from different cultures that it was like oh fuk, the music world is vast. So being surrounded by smart mofoz with eclectic tastes-- my current musical world is in dept to their influence.
And I no longer have shit thoughts towards people who enjoy mindless dance or pop music. I used to. But I feel it's all good now- if it's helping people ENJOY LIFE, that is 100% a good thing. Not everybody wants deep shit when listening to music. Life itself is a trip.
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Co-existence
from Bergen (Norway) on 2014-08-10 01:33 [#02474844]
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I grew up in a rich social democracy (Norway) with a dad who made a lot of money working off-shore but who was always overly careful with the spending of any of it and very determined that his children should learn what it means to actualy EARN your money. He had a decent enough sound system, but a somewhat limited music taste, but never the less he has been an inspiration to me, musically in some strange way. Maybe the passion he displayed for the music he liked - often after a few drinks - was something I recognised in my self...only difference was that I had to look very hard and long to actually stumble upon - often by chance - the music that arouse such passionate feelings within me. Exclusive music. Unusual music. Music that no one had heard of. Music that defined "me". Music that made me feel special. I soon turned into a musical "snob", and I still am and feel good about being one. I like all kinds of music and I have really expanded my range of it over the years. I feel that I have more authority when it comes to judging something as good or bad music, simply because I'm more passionate about it than your average upper class, middle class or lower class "Joe". So what this boils down to, I guess, is that musical taste is more a question of psychology than of class. Unlike my father, I'm terrible with money, but I'm absolutely fucking awesome when it comes to music. Just take a look at my youtube channel, and you'll see what I mean: LAZY_TITLE
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2014-08-10 07:55 [#02474847]
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Are the beatles upper or low class?
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milkywhore
from Land of Lion's Milk (Turkey) on 2014-08-10 13:10 [#02474850]
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is this excellent electronic music? asshole
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2014-08-11 04:53 [#02474873]
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Pop music is for the lower & middle class, or is it? I didn't grow up listening to classical music or reading sophisticated literature.
I look back and see what media my family consumed, and this makes it clear, i am a member of the working class.
It is very good that nowadays people have access to all this stuff for free on the internet, be it books, music or movies.
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2014-08-11 07:11 [#02474875]
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Please keep on topic, I grew up hearing the Beatles, peace.
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jnasato
from 777gogogo (Japan) on 2014-08-11 09:18 [#02474876]
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Pop music is pretty powerful, and it can be used for positive means. I would one day like to use pop music outside of major label means, to spread THE ULTRA MESSAGEZ.
Imagine if the musics that hundreds of millions of people know... imagine if they had deep positive messages. Everyone would be ninjaz and levitating and shit. Instead the past 30 years have been concerned with being cool at the cost of recklessness.
Anyway, I suppose the boom of EDM is "good", cuz it brings people together. Candyflipping needs to become more popular to spread ancient knowledge, though.
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Co-existence
from Bergen (Norway) on 2014-08-11 22:54 [#02474882]
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Pop music outside major labels has been done. Take Saint Etienne, for instance. I always say that if there was a Nobel Prize for pop music, they should have it. Pop culture is a great historical resource anyway. Romantic, sure, but still invaluable when it comes to give you a real feel of the zeitgeist of ay given era. What jnasato is talking about is what we call "propaganda".
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freqy
on 2014-08-11 23:39 [#02474883]
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captain Kirk age 83 sings to us, Ladies first : )
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Oakwood
from El Paso (United States) on 2014-09-05 20:09 [#02475932]
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Pop music applies to all classes.
But psychology I believe plays a bigger part to what music people listen to rather than their class. For example I take myself... I have not met one single person who also enjoys listening to Coil, Throbbing Gristle, Psychic T.V, Current 93, or the many other groups and acts in the Industrial umbrella like I do. I believe it to be a psychological thing just like Monte Cazazza said back in 76' "Industrial music for industrial people".
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