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         |  obara
             from Utrecht on 2013-08-15 14:58 [#02460811] Points: 19430 Status: Regular
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 | while listening to my cousin rehearsing [on violin] various classical parts in the other room.......
 
 painters - humans who create "worlds" on their canvases are
 artists [maybe it's a thing in English language and not in
 other language, note] - and musicians: those who re-create
 classic compositions as e.g. violin players in an orchestra
 AND musicians who create their own music using e.g. violin
 <<--- they are all called artists in English, 'am I wrong??'
 - ??
 
 
 
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         |  obara
             from Utrecht on 2013-08-15 15:01 [#02460812] Points: 19430 Status: Regular
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 | classic/classical 
 cause it always bugged me....at least in my culture: those
 starving painters trying to sell their unique works AND
 [sorry] copy-cat musicians playing in orchestras - they both
 are called/treated as artists while - methinks - only the
 former could be could real artists while the latter - just
 craftsmen [!] skillfully recreating classical stuff.
 
 what say you ?
 
 
 
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         |  obara
             from Utrecht on 2013-08-15 15:02 [#02460813] Points: 19430 Status: Regular | Followup to obara: #02460812
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 | *could be called 
 relax ob's
 
 
 
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         |  RussellDust
             on 2013-08-15 15:46 [#02460814] Points: 16155 Status: Lurker
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 | I understand what you mean, but would that suggest that any musician, wether in a band or a solo 'artist' isn't an
 artist?
 
 I'm not having a go. I'm curious because it's interesting.
 
 
 
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         |  RussellDust
             on 2013-08-15 15:52 [#02460815] Points: 16155 Status: Lurker | Followup to RussellDust: #02460814
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 | Sorry i meant: 
 .....any musician, wether in a band or solo isn't an artist
 unless he composed the music, wether partly or entirely?
 
 
 
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         |  RussellDust
             on 2013-08-15 15:55 [#02460816] Points: 16155 Status: Lurker
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 | Wiktionary defines the noun 'artist' (Singular: artist; Plural: artists) as follows:
 
 A person who creates art.
 A person who creates art as an occupation.
 A person who is skilled at some activity.
 
 
 
 
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