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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2012-10-22 00:36 [#02443306]
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it says a lot that modern activism has chosen to represent itself using this mask. it says 'a lot' ---- but a lot of what, exactly?
trust me we ought to discuss this shit
the film is really into itself. the evil police state britain is real wank material. its self pleasuring bullshit. its a dull dream. imdb rating is 8.2
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2012-10-22 01:04 [#02443307]
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"documentary"
this is going to be 2013. this shit is really embarrassing. the music/fashion/art isnt even good. counter revolution stuff from the 90s had a better look didnt it? i mean dont you feel like this shit is embarrassing?
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EVOL
from a long time ago on 2012-10-22 01:10 [#02443308]
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i could suppose that the film is enough to placate the easily fed masses with the feeling of accomplishment they would've otherwise had to earn themselves out on the street in the real world. or something like that.
i wouldn't feel compelled to post here as often as i do, with all the inane asinine shit that i babble, if more people contributed. unfortunately, i don't make music, so it's not as easy to spark up a convo that isn't about junk non specific to this particular community's main focus. sorry, idk y i felt it necessary to add that on.
back on topic; i only watched the movie once. maybe it was trying to provoke a similar reaction in order to instigate martial law on some level? please add to the discourse...
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2012-10-22 01:26 [#02443309]
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erm wot u mean lol?
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2012-10-22 01:27 [#02443310]
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on a side note i know basically all of you are too coolfag to talk about any of my fagbollocks, finding this kind of silly shit better suited to an argument in the comment section of a david icke video or something. i understand. however, lets at least submit a point of view on this serious subject without fearing any damage to our reputation. either way we're on the internet and we might as well internet
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EVOL
from a long time ago on 2012-10-22 01:43 [#02443311]
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ah, sorry. i did not see your second post when i had initially opened this thread. i was simply talking about the movie itself. i wasn't sure what direction you were trying to go with the topic. i guess that's why i inserted that middle paragraph. which i think goes with the same feeling to the post that this one is in response to (in case you post again before i do).
i barely just started watching the link you posted so give me maybe 30 mins...
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2012-10-22 02:05 [#02443312]
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oh hey man dont burden yourself with too many of my links yo
im being erratic and im pretty sure ill leave you a bit confused
im trying to focus of the intentions of activism at the moment and how honest those intentions are when you choose a mask obviously inspired by a poop film that ought to be laughable to anyone with any real intentions
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anirog
on 2012-10-22 02:10 [#02443313]
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I don't follow British politics however I gather David Cameron is a decedent of the queen on England.
I'd also argue British colonialism is still in effect
Hong Kong is battle ground of the multinationals as the world moves towards globalization and the crown can argue it's politics are preferable as they've done it before.
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EVOL
from a long time ago on 2012-10-22 02:20 [#02443314]
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im trying to focus of the intentions of activism at the moment and how honest those intentions are when you choose a
mask obviously inspired by a poop film that ought to be laughable to anyone with any real intentions
in short, i agree... and with that, i'm out. lol
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2012-10-22 02:36 [#02443315]
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the revolution is basically real in that we are all supposed to get really pissed off about bankers and arseholes ect and do some shit about it because those people are irrelevant shit traders farting on all the good vibes. it gots to go down. however i really wish it was being propelled by decent men in established places rather than a mixture of: tinfoil hat cru - internet opinion club - footlocker looters of twitter.
i mean i realise its going to be the internet that makes the next big move and we are all waiting to see what happens. everyone seems so cosy with that shit. its going to go wrong.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2012-10-22 02:40 [#02443316]
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im not sure dude.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2012-10-22 02:45 [#02443317]
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well if im right and the intentions are shitty then we have a real shitty 2013 coming up. when you get back tell me what we should do about it because im sure we are both worried
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2012-10-22 02:55 [#02443318]
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on the other hand most of the internet seems pretty solid and most nobs who create/are interviewed in these sloppy docs are correctly criticised and overlooked. if we can rely on the common sense of the internet to make more of a statement then the next 10 years are going to be really exciting and we can probably stop worrying so chin up maybe
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EVOL
from a long time ago on 2012-10-22 04:04 [#02443319]
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i think the thing is that the people who are hurting most from the current economic system believe that the people at the very top want to kill everybody underneath them. not so! it's just that the people at the very bottom, the same people who are hurting the most have become disposable. so while they're trying to come to terms with that, they're trying to rally people to these injustices they feel being perpetrated on them, while claiming human rights violations. not to say that isn't true. but the middle class, i guess, in this situation keep the top a float. so as long as the 1%, or whatever you'd like to call them, can keep stringing the middle class along... then yeah, it will be shitty for the lower class, and the middle class will be to busy competing for the crumbs to give a fuck. slowly, the lower class will be eliminated. and anyone who has a chance to rise above class will be so desensitized to this new type of genocide, that this mess of a so called civilized society will go on and on. since technology will allow those in power now to never have to vacate that power to a younger more idealistic generation, by transhumanism.
but for now, violence should not even be part of the picture. there is no such thing as anon. if there is, they aren't dick now. they've either been infiltrated by any number of govt agencies or even, any number of govt agencies could make a video like that, or put out any type of message, under the moniker. so i wouldn't trust their propaganda either. you don't have ak's or ar's, a plan, or property for that matter, then you aren't really a threat to any powers that be, agenda.
no one can predict how people will use technology, so there isn't anybody anywhere that has some master plan or knows how to put everything together to control the future. technology has now become self propelled. you can't take it away. you can't replace the economy, because everything in western society is dependent on it. nothing short of collapse will change our ways, sorry.
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anirog
on 2012-10-22 04:41 [#02443320]
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Not to hijack your thread however I tend to disagree the wealthiest 1% no longer care about the future or the repercussions of their actions the pursuit of maximum profits in an ever shrinking world with resources that have been exhausted means the existing population is the target of exploitation. In a rush to achieve their financial goals the cost to the nowt and the future is to be ignored.
Essentially new growth is to slow and innovation is burdensome existing infrastructure is the choice real estate.
Have a good time...
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gingaling
from Scamworth (Burkina Faso) on 2012-10-22 08:32 [#02443321]
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tinfoil hat cru - internet opinion club - footlocker looters of
twitter.
unfortunately these are the people that are left that have time and motivation to do anything, even if it is half hearted attempts at activism. as said the rest of the middle class, and the pro-lo's are too busy scrapping over crumbs to give a damn.
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anirog
on 2012-10-22 18:17 [#02443347]
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If your willing to see through the eyes of a psychopath deal book on the nytimes covers the intricacies of the pyramid schemes
This article dives into the shell game at Lehman Brothers
Essentially Lehman actually did drill an oil well around the rings of Saturn and they cant figure how they did it.
http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2012/10/09/a-better-solution-is -needed-for-failed-financial-giants/
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drill rods
from 6AM-8PM NO PARKING (Canada) on 2012-10-23 00:59 [#02443360]
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Pisses me off that so many people wear that Guy Fawkes mask without having a fucking clue who Guy Fawkes was. Guess it's no different to the Che Guevara shirts lol
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gingaling
from Scamworth (Burkina Faso) on 2012-10-23 11:25 [#02443381]
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wasnt he the guy from the v for vendetta film oder? the one that stephen hawkings played
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jnasato
from 777gogogo (Japan) on 2012-10-23 11:50 [#02443383]
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The end of a horrible thing can be the start of a beautiful thing.
Losing the comforts that have been ingrained into society- the comforts that actually harm in the long run- is not a problem. Discomfort and world chaos may ensue, but such emotions and reactions are similar for any change. The change of the world will be much like going to a new elementary school-- met with nervousness and confusion, but new friends will be made; old good friends will always be there.
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Torture Garden
from Feelin' 2Pacish on 2012-10-23 13:16 [#02443386]
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None of this interests me. There are genuinely radical anti-capitalist movements on the left who are challenging capitalism or at least making a difference for people on a day to day basis. That's all I care about. These movements manifest themselves in a variety of ways and do not exist in a identifiable and unified movement like the groups mentioned in this thread.
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RussellDust
on 2012-10-23 17:49 [#02443390]
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This thread is rubbish. (not having a go at anymore)
I really feel for Alan Moore.
And for those of you who say he's super rich so it doesn't matter...don't, and fuck off!
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2012-10-23 18:18 [#02443392]
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but im on moore's side here: wiki - Moore was quoted as saying that the comic book had been "specifically about things like fascism and anarchy. Those words, 'fascism' and 'anarchy,' occur nowhere in the film. It's been turned into a Bush-era parable by people too timid to set a political satire in their own country."
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anirog
on 2012-10-23 19:29 [#02443393]
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Seems David Cameron's great grandfather founded HSBC according to the website wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ewen_Cameron_%28banker%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_and_Shanghai_Banking _Corporation
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RussellDust
on 2012-10-23 19:39 [#02443394]
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Yes sorry i didn't mean giving your views on the movie was rubbish. More this idea that there's a link with the outside world. Even if the book/movie want to reflect on certain aspects of society, it's just a fiction.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2012-10-23 20:26 [#02443400]
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anonymous says, 'we will not forgive'
why? surely non-forgiveness will only lead to more non-forgiveness, right?
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2012-10-24 17:42 [#02443461]
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infact im saying its fiction and a sloppy one at that. however a seemingly huge portion of mainstream online opinion believes it to be some kind of calling. thats the topic here
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