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         |  AMPI MAX
             from United Kingdom on 2012-10-22 00:36 [#02443306] Points: 10796 Status: Regular
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 | it says a lot that modern activism has chosen to represent itself using this mask. it says 'a lot' ---- but a lot of
 what, exactly?
 
 trust me we ought to discuss this shit
 
 the film is really into itself. the evil police state
 britain is real wank material. its self pleasuring bullshit.
 its a dull dream. imdb rating is 8.2
 
 
 
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         |  AMPI MAX
             from United Kingdom on 2012-10-22 01:04 [#02443307] Points: 10796 Status: Regular
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 | "documentary" 
 this is going to be 2013. this shit is really embarrassing.
 the music/fashion/art isnt even good. counter revolution
 stuff from the 90s had a better look didnt it? i mean dont
 you feel like this shit is embarrassing?
 
 
 
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         |  EVOL
             from a long time ago on 2012-10-22 01:10 [#02443308] Points: 4921 Status: Lurker
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 | i could suppose that the film is enough to placate the easily fed masses with the feeling of accomplishment they
 would've otherwise had to earn themselves out on the street
 in the real world. or something like that.
 
 i wouldn't feel compelled to post here as often as i do,
 with all the inane asinine shit that i babble, if more
 people contributed. unfortunately, i don't make music, so
 it's not as easy to spark up a convo that isn't about junk
 non specific to this particular community's main focus.
 sorry, idk y i felt it necessary to add that on.
 
 back on topic; i only watched the movie once. maybe it was
 trying to provoke a similar reaction in order to instigate
 martial law on some level? please add to the discourse...
 
 
 
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         |  AMPI MAX
             from United Kingdom on 2012-10-22 01:26 [#02443309] Points: 10796 Status: Regular | Followup to EVOL: #02443308
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 | erm wot u mean lol? 
 
 
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         |  AMPI MAX
             from United Kingdom on 2012-10-22 01:27 [#02443310] Points: 10796 Status: Regular
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 | on a side note i know basically all of you are too coolfag to talk about any of my fagbollocks, finding this
 kind of silly shit better suited to an argument in the
 comment section of a david icke video or something. i
 understand. however, lets at least submit a point of view on
 this serious subject without fearing any damage to our
 reputation. either way we're on the internet and we might as
 well internet
 
 
 
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         |  EVOL
             from a long time ago on 2012-10-22 01:43 [#02443311] Points: 4921 Status: Lurker | Followup to AMPI MAX: #02443310
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 | ah, sorry. i did not see your second post when i had initially opened this thread. i was simply talking about the
 movie itself. i wasn't sure what direction you were trying
 to go with the topic. i guess that's why i inserted that
 middle paragraph. which i think goes with the same feeling
 to the post that this one is in response to (in case you
 post again before i do).
 
 i barely just started watching the link you posted so give
 me maybe 30 mins...
 
 
 
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         |  AMPI MAX
             from United Kingdom on 2012-10-22 02:05 [#02443312] Points: 10796 Status: Regular | Followup to EVOL: #02443311
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 | oh hey man dont burden yourself with too many of my links yo
 im being erratic and im pretty sure ill leave you a bit
 confused
 
 im trying to focus of the intentions of activism at the
 moment and how honest those intentions are when you choose a
 mask obviously inspired by a poop film that ought to be
 laughable to anyone with any real intentions
 
 
 
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         |  anirog
             on 2012-10-22 02:10 [#02443313] Points: 762 Status: Regular
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 | I don't follow British politics however I gather David Cameron is a decedent of the queen on England.
 
 I'd also argue British colonialism is still in effect
 
 Hong Kong is battle ground of the multinationals as the
 world moves towards globalization and the crown can argue
 it's politics are preferable as they've done it before.
 
 
 
 
 
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         |  EVOL
             from a long time ago on 2012-10-22 02:20 [#02443314] Points: 4921 Status: Lurker | Followup to AMPI MAX: #02443312
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 | im trying to focus of the intentions of activism at the moment and how honest those intentions are when you choose a
 
 mask obviously inspired by a poop film that ought to be
 laughable to anyone with any real intentions
 
 in short, i agree... and with that, i'm out. lol
 
 
 
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         |  AMPI MAX
             from United Kingdom on 2012-10-22 02:36 [#02443315] Points: 10796 Status: Regular
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 | the revolution is basically real in that we are all supposed to get really pissed off about bankers and arseholes ect and
 do some shit about it because those people are irrelevant
 shit traders farting on all the good vibes. it gots to go
 down. however i really wish it was being propelled by decent
 men in established places rather than a mixture of: tinfoil
 hat cru - internet opinion club - footlocker looters of
 twitter.
 i mean i realise its going to be the internet that makes the
 next big move and we are all waiting to see what happens.
 everyone seems so cosy with that shit. its going to go
 wrong.
 
 
 
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         |  AMPI MAX
             from United Kingdom on 2012-10-22 02:40 [#02443316] Points: 10796 Status: Regular | Followup to anirog: #02443313
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 | im not sure dude. 
 
 
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         |  AMPI MAX
             from United Kingdom on 2012-10-22 02:45 [#02443317] Points: 10796 Status: Regular | Followup to EVOL: #02443314
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 | well if im right and the intentions are shitty then we have a real shitty 2013 coming up. when you get back tell me what
 we should do about it because im sure we are both worried
 
 
 
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         |  AMPI MAX
             from United Kingdom on 2012-10-22 02:55 [#02443318] Points: 10796 Status: Regular
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 | on the other hand most of the internet seems pretty solid and most nobs who create/are interviewed in these sloppy
 docs are correctly criticised and overlooked. if we can rely
 on the common sense of the internet to make more of a
 statement then the next 10 years are going to be really
 exciting and we can probably stop worrying so chin up maybe
 
 
 
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         |  EVOL
             from a long time ago on 2012-10-22 04:04 [#02443319] Points: 4921 Status: Lurker
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 | i think the thing is that the people who are hurting most from the current economic system believe that the people at
 the very top want to kill everybody underneath them. not so!
 it's just that the people at the very bottom, the same
 people who are hurting the most have become disposable. so
 while they're trying to come to terms with that, they're
 trying to rally people to these injustices they feel being
 perpetrated on them, while claiming human rights violations.
 not to say that isn't true. but the middle class, i guess,
 in this situation keep the top a float. so as long as the
 1%, or whatever you'd like to call them, can keep stringing
 the middle class along... then yeah, it will be shitty for
 the lower class, and the middle class will be to busy
 competing for the crumbs to give a fuck. slowly, the lower
 class will be eliminated. and anyone who has a chance to
 rise above class will be so desensitized to this new type of
 genocide, that this mess of a so called civilized society
 will go on and on. since technology will allow those in
 power now to never have to vacate that power to a younger
 more idealistic generation, by transhumanism.
 
 but for now, violence should not even be part of the
 picture. there is no such thing as anon. if there is, they
 aren't dick now. they've either been infiltrated by any
 number of govt agencies or even, any number of govt agencies
 could make a video like that, or put out any type of
 message, under the moniker. so i wouldn't trust their
 propaganda either. you don't have ak's or ar's, a plan, or
 property for that matter, then you aren't really a threat to
 any powers that be, agenda.
 
 no one can predict how people will use technology, so there
 isn't anybody anywhere that has some master plan or knows
 how to put everything together to control the future.
 technology has now become self propelled. you can't take it
 away. you can't replace the economy, because everything in
 western society is dependent on it. nothing short of
 collapse will change our ways, sorry.
 
 
 
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         |  anirog
             on 2012-10-22 04:41 [#02443320] Points: 762 Status: Regular | Followup to EVOL: #02443319
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 | Not to hijack your thread however I tend to disagree the wealthiest 1% no longer care about the future or the
 repercussions of their actions the pursuit of maximum
 profits in an ever shrinking world with resources that have
 been exhausted means the existing population is the target
 of exploitation. In a rush to achieve  their financial goals
 the cost to the nowt and the future is to be ignored.
 
 Essentially new growth is to slow and innovation is
 burdensome existing infrastructure is the choice real
 estate.
 
 Have a good time...
 
 
 
 
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         |  gingaling
             from Scamworth (Burkina Faso) on 2012-10-22 08:32 [#02443321] Points: 2281 Status: Lurker
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 | tinfoil hat cru - internet opinion club - footlocker looters of
 twitter.
 
 unfortunately these are the people that are left that have
 time and motivation to do anything, even if it is half
 hearted attempts at activism. as said the rest of the middle
 class, and the pro-lo's are too busy scrapping over crumbs
 to give a damn.
 
 
 
 
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         |  anirog
             on 2012-10-22 18:17 [#02443347] Points: 762 Status: Regular
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 | If your willing to see through the eyes of a psychopath deal book on the nytimes covers the intricacies of the pyramid
 schemes
 
 This article dives into the shell game at Lehman Brothers
 
 Essentially Lehman actually did drill an oil well around the
 rings of Saturn and they cant figure how they did it.
 
 http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2012/10/09/a-better-solution-is
 -needed-for-failed-financial-giants/
 
 
 
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         |  drill rods
             from 6AM-8PM NO PARKING (Canada) on 2012-10-23 00:59 [#02443360] Points: 1171 Status: Regular
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 | Pisses me off that so many people wear that Guy Fawkes mask without having a fucking clue who Guy Fawkes was. Guess it's
 no different to the Che Guevara shirts lol
 
 
 
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             from Scamworth (Burkina Faso) on 2012-10-23 11:25 [#02443381] Points: 2281 Status: Lurker | Followup to drill rods: #02443360
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 | wasnt he the guy from the v for vendetta film oder? the one that stephen hawkings played
 
 
 
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         |  jnasato
             from 777gogogo (Japan) on 2012-10-23 11:50 [#02443383] Points: 3393 Status: Regular | Show recordbag
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 | The end of a horrible thing can be the start of a beautiful thing.
 
 Losing the comforts that have been ingrained into society-
 the comforts that actually harm in the long run- is not a
 problem.  Discomfort and world chaos may ensue, but such
 emotions and reactions are similar for any change.  The
 change of the world will be much like going to a new
 elementary school-- met with nervousness and confusion, but
 new friends will be made; old good friends will always be
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         |  Torture Garden
             from Feelin' 2Pacish on 2012-10-23 13:16 [#02443386] Points: 974 Status: Lurker | Followup to AMPI MAX: #02443315
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 | None of this interests me. There are genuinely radical anti-capitalist movements on the left who are challenging
 capitalism or at least making a difference for people on a
 day to day basis.  That's all I care about. These movements
 manifest themselves in a variety of ways and do not exist in
 a identifiable and unified movement like the groups
 mentioned in this thread.
 
 
 
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         |  RussellDust
             on 2012-10-23 17:49 [#02443390] Points: 16155 Status: Lurker
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 | This thread is rubbish. (not having a go at anymore) 
 I really feel for Alan Moore.
 
 And for those of you who say he's super rich so it doesn't
 matter...don't, and fuck off!
 
 
 
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         |  AMPI MAX
             from United Kingdom on 2012-10-23 18:18 [#02443392] Points: 10796 Status: Regular | Followup to RussellDust: #02443390
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 | but im on moore's side here: wiki - Moore was quoted as saying that the comic book had
 been "specifically about things like fascism and anarchy.
 Those words, 'fascism' and 'anarchy,' occur nowhere in the
 film. It's been turned into a Bush-era parable by people too
 timid to set a political satire in their own country."
 
 
 
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         |  anirog
             on 2012-10-23 19:29 [#02443393] Points: 762 Status: Regular
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 | Seems David Cameron's great grandfather founded HSBC according to the website wikipedia.
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ewen_Cameron_%28banker%29
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_and_Shanghai_Banking
 _Corporation
 
 
 
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         |  RussellDust
             on 2012-10-23 19:39 [#02443394] Points: 16155 Status: Lurker | Followup to AMPI MAX: #02443392
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 | Yes sorry i didn't mean giving your views on the movie was rubbish. More this idea that there's a link with the outside
 world. Even if the book/movie want to reflect on certain
 aspects of society, it's just a fiction.
 
 
 
 
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         |  Raz0rBlade_uk
             on 2012-10-23 20:26 [#02443400] Points: 12540 Status: Addict | Show recordbag
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 | anonymous says, 'we will not forgive' 
 why? surely non-forgiveness will only lead to more
 non-forgiveness, right?
 
 
 
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         |  AMPI MAX
             from United Kingdom on 2012-10-24 17:42 [#02443461] Points: 10796 Status: Regular | Followup to RussellDust: #02443394
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 | infact im saying its fiction and a sloppy one at that. however a seemingly huge portion of mainstream online
 opinion believes it to be some kind of calling. thats the
 topic here
 
 
 
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