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look i really dont know whats going on here. |
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this is really strange. it's probably dying down now but this was interesting yo. this isnt anger its not anti establishment its not a cry for help. these people were just enjoying themselves. it was embarrassingly pointless. the press has already made this stylish and stirred shit facebook hyped the thing up the government has no idea what to do and dont have enough police. its just,,strange |
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Yes well it's easy to palm this off as a bunch of chavs having a larf. |
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HONESTLY FUCK YOU. books indeed. |
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i dont think we are going to get anywhere at this rate. lets stop talking about it. |
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i mean i wanted to talk but...nevermind. /going to watmm |
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i don't know mate, with that last contribution of yours I thought we were making leaps and bounds. |
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i was right though i think. but you missed the point and tried to put me in dailymail corner. the bit about palming off chavs; was fucking smart , but unfortunately made me think you were a tit |
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You must recognise that the riots weren't organised in the sense that there is no one absolute mentality behind it, some people are going to do destructive things when their adrenaline is pumping, and i don't blame people for being mad about those people. It's just that some rioters probably had other ideas which didn't involve smashing independent businesses etc. And perhaps those people really do have a point. Instead the BBC is just intent on shoving everyone in a neat box and saying they should all be shot with rubber bullets and brought to justice - sorry but that's more disgusting than a few burnt out buildings, a few crying rich people in ealing and a smashed up mcdonalds. |
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In my opinion they can use real bullets..fucking cunts scaring all the uk kids..get civilized: it's fucking 2011 not the medieval times. fucking barbarians. |
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seems some rather fit girls were doing a bit of shopping during the riots. about 30 seconds in... |
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if ur gonna riot in London, at least do it for a good reason: like V in V for Vendetta |
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"but the people they are revolting agaisnt isnt the government, isnt the 'system' isnt even the police - they are hitting and hurting thier own communities, they're own people. leaving families homeless, and retailers fucked in an already uncertain economic times. im all for protest, but this is selfish greed. jesus there was even footage on news 24 earlier of a girl trying on trainers before she looted them inside the sports shop. footage of cunts helping one guy who had had his face smashed in to hi feet whilst another guy unzipped his backpack and stole shit whilst he was dazed. awful." Saw that clip to with the young kid and his back pack, would have love if he turned around then with a gun in his jacket and blew the heads off of these guys, walked over to your one lifted his gadget that was nicked and walked off. |
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you should all watch with more distant look |
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ok here is DARCUS the black man he's a cockend thats trying to make out like this is some kind of brave stand for black people or whatever. |
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this is the problem im talking about |
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here are some thoughts: Why don't the black youth who feel they are treated differently, listen in class, gain an education and stop complaining and making excuses to behave like animals without a conscience. Not all black youth are like that, the ones with parents who guide them and watch them, get good jobs and are upstanding citizens and the police should be given more powers, such as beating the shit out of them while they are looting and burning down peoples hard earned livelihood. This would not happen in Europe GENRALtricksta 4 seconds ago |
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fuck of back to the west indies if you do not like this country! martinx70 16 seconds ago |
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What i am concerned about is a man called Mark Duggan. He has parents.He has brothers. He has sisters. He also had a gun Strangely he forgot to mention that he had an illegal gun in his posession. baggie00001 46 seconds ago |
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lame and sad. |
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you seem really concerned. |
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the person who wrote that is wrong - this has already happened in europe several times! - most relevant example I can think of is Paris in 2005 and 2007. |
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the key thing is mass suggestion. "look, that guy over there is looting a store; i guess that means it's OK for me to do it as well." ... and then it escalates, more and more people tag along. ever heard about former highly educated and law-abiding citizens committing war crimes, etc? (nazism, the balkan war, etc, etc). it's basic psychology. "if everyone else does it it's OK" MOST people are sheep, they WANT someone to tell them / show them what to do, no matter how "immoral" or "criminal". MOST people do NOT sit down and reflect on their individual moral and ethics, they simple follow a leader. this is a fact. |
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* simply |
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the police are racist? well bugger me sideways |
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if anyone mentions enoch powell i'll smash their face in |
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yes those youtube comments are all in their own way lame or concerning. the point is this: people are going to mumble and grumble and people like darcus howe are going to say stupid things like 'this is just like the 80s'. it will create a seething yet emotionally distant atmosphere. black people will feel like its revolution time. bnp whites will feel like its revolution time. small ethnic groups will feel like it's revolution time. all the soft students will feel like it's revolution time. all the old men will think its revolution time. it's not even fucking revolution time. we are still recovering from daft ideas, we dont need a REVOLUTION. this does really concern me |
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anyway this whole thing should fascinate everyone. it really is strange, and it's the strange things that worry me most. |
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yeah ive seen a few darcus interviws on the box and he was on radio 4 this morning, he wasnt making any logical sense. does anyone rememebr when he got stung by chris morris on brass eye? 'trenchent buffoon' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uyvrvPTP24 |
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nice |
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considering how serious an poignant this topic is to detract away from what such a long time and intelligent and informed broadcaster darcus howe is in this instance is uncalled for. were you that stupid bitch who interviewed him? because you certainly share her ignorance. |
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dont get me wrong CM is great but i think he chose the wrong person in that instance to target. the others are certainly legitimate. |
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This guy sums up the whole thing better than any of the news channels can and even though some of the guys looting are proper scumbags (the ones pretending to help the guy with the backpack) what this guy says makes perfect sense, how can David Cameron relate to the youth when he doesnt even live in Croydon or whatever, we need more working class politicians. |
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as if expenses scandal + stop and search made this. bollocks. this isnt about the 'youth' feeling stifled. this has fuck all to do with changing the world. that guy talking there is a problem, he's the highhorses type and is a tit. cant see why people would be listening to this guy and believing what he's saying when the obvious reality is that everybody broke into fucking footlocker. voice of the youth indeed |
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anyway this shits died now, all over. i expect to see a bit more of it over the next few years. and lots more of this: |
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highhorses type? jesus christ you're an ignorant twat in this thread. |
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Let's sue Hollywood for all this riots! |
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well darcus howe made very little sense to me over the last few days, regardless of his legacy (which im fully aware of), id argue that its dodgy territory to just pin this down to the oppression of black youth (which clearly goes on dont get me wrong), there were plenty of white faces looting in wolverhampton etc. Im a youth worker with 10+ years experience and trust me many of these kids already have the xboxes, the ipods, the clothes, regardless of thier background, putting these acts down to poverty is also id say inaccurate. i work with plenty of disadvantaged kids who have no history of buglary or public disorder. these kids are ignored by society and in many cases their own families, who dont have a traditional nurturing structure to instill morals because their parents were 15, 16 when they were born. im not saying what these kids did was right obviously, these guys have no concept of community, no concept of respect for the community they live in, and no respect for law and order - they are unlikely to get a decent job so they dont give a shit. thankfully they are a minority in this country. i just find it very sad because kids in this country get a hard enough time from the press as it is. whens the next aphex twin album out? |
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monday |
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'the very best of aphex twin' |
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The UK Prime Minister is to evict known rioters from council houses, leaving them homeless. "For too long we've taken a too soft attitude towards people that loot and pillage their own community. If you do that you should lose your right to the sort of housing that you've had at subsidised rates. "Obviously, that will mean they've got to be housed somewhere else - they'll have to find housing in the private sector - and that will be tougher for them, but they should have thought of that before they started burgling." Is that the best he can come up with , force rioters out onto the street homeless? WTF. |
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this so called government is unreal. they seem to have absolutely no grasp of the underpinning issues around this last weeks events, do they live in a fucking bubble or what? and what does that message give to kids? we really dont give a fuck about you as now we're removing your homes? kids that dont commit burglary and crime have been so excluded by their education system that they are unskilled to aquire a job let alone maintain a private tenancy. frankly i have little time for MP's advising on topics such as crime and adequate crime punishments when the majority of them were on the fiddle for years with tax payers money with their expenses!! so...er....when is the next boards of canada album coming out? |
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yeah. thats exactly the kind of narrow minded Conservative thinking we're going to see a LOT more of from now on. thats what my thread is about. so im not ignorant |
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thankyou ken nicely said. you are exactly right. everyone should listen to what youre saying here. and seriously guys please dont listen to darcus and people like him. it definitely is dodgy territory |
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cheers dude, no your not ignorant your comments are spot on. polls out tommorow in the independant suggest that 35% think cameron handled this weeks events appropriately with a similarly low 45% for the police not using powers granted to them in the riots act. i just hope this doesnt get brushed under the carpet over the next few weeks and something good can come out of this. i popped into wolverhampton this afternoon, christ, what a mess. massive respect to those who turned up broom in hand to offer support in the clean up operation. its fucks me right off when kids get labelled negatively and unjustly in this country. youths were out in force across the west midlands to help. daily mail, the express and the like need to big up kids instead of putting them down. |
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Despite the moral ending there were some interesting points made. It's funny how little the media pays attention to the possible effects of fatherless families. In general, and with respect to the recent events. It's so basic. And yet, even government can't seem to put any handles on it. Instead of playing some sort of national "dad" trying to bring sense to the crowds by punishing them. Let's jus hope the media picks up on this. |
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