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Co-existence
from Bergen (Norway) on 2002-04-11 17:21 [#00167950]
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"The majority of grown up Americans hates children. They disguise this hate as concern, but it is in fact hostility pure and simple. They say that they will wrap the young ones in wool but pull it over their eyes instead. Adolescents are forbidden to stay out late, to smoke, to taste beer and liquor, etc. All endorsed by The White House. All in the best interest of the young, it is said. But I say all to ensure that they do not find out about adult pleasures, that they do not get wiser through experimentation, that they do not learn how to deal with temptations. And the results? We never had so many 13 year old smokers as we have now. The number of adolescent mothers and fathers is extremely high, too. This is the effects of censorship, the effects of being exposed to the all-American antis."
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Co-existence
from Bergen (Norway) on 2002-04-11 17:22 [#00167951]
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The quote belongs to professor Richard Klein, authour of "Cigarettes are sublime" and "Eat Fat".....
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xlr
from Boston (United States) on 2002-04-11 17:25 [#00167956]
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oh.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2002-04-11 17:27 [#00167961]
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the youth is the leaders of the future....scarey huh?
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Tasos
from Athens (Greece) on 2002-04-11 17:30 [#00167965]
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...like Bowie was singing: 'I'm Afraid Of Americans'...
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2002-04-11 17:35 [#00167969]
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"im afraid i cant help it"
great trent reznor remix.......plus hes in the video..........
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Tasos
from Athens (Greece) on 2002-04-11 17:36 [#00167971]
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yeah! :-)
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-04-11 17:42 [#00167977]
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i don't agree totally...
on the core of what is expressed in this quote, that the american elders censor everything...VERY true, and if you compare to other countries ie. germany, where (i'm told) you can drink at the age or 16, we look very totalitarian; and we very much are. But I and many other americans feel that this is not to protect, yet to control...the american govt, was slowly becoming a H.G Wells tyrany, now...since the new propaganda/oil/terrorism war we've initiated...we're galloping towards this grim vision. The sad thing is that we're being lied to...constantly...by our own govt. I'm not talking "aliens," but more realistic conspirasies like media censorship, and manipulation of other pieces of information...and in this infomation age we've developed...that's all we as a spieces can really hold onto anymore...
...sad, turely sad...and there's nothing we can do about it...
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2002-04-11 17:43 [#00167981]
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nanotech---you dont think it possible to change? hope is the greatest thing......
if you dont like something make a stand.
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Co-existence
from Bergen (Norway) on 2002-04-11 17:48 [#00167990]
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href="http://www.forces.org/articles/hen-ry/klein-en.htm">R interesting!!!
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Co-existence
from Bergen (Norway) on 2002-04-11 17:51 [#00167997]
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Bloody Hell, I try again! Read the article, its good!
href="http://www.forces.org/articles/hen-ry/klein-en.htm">c
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Tasos
from Athens (Greece) on 2002-04-11 17:51 [#00167998]
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I once read an american article in the web starting like this:
'How about our friends England? Get in the children’s safety seat and shuttup! France? Thanks for all the kind post-9/11 words about solidarity, but when it comes to the actual work of bombing and subjugating other peoples, don’t call us, we’ll call you—we don’t like has-beens slowing us down. Russia? Tchya, right. Have you ever seen anything more abject in your life than Russia rushing to be the first to visit America’s sick bed after 9/11, in spite of all the times we’ve fucked them in the ass over the past decade... only to get fucked by us in the ass YET AGAIN. “Thanks for offering us bases in Central Asia, Russia. Now that we’re here, we think we’ll stay. You don’t like it? Hey, all we have to do is dangle a few billion dollars in front of your faces, and you’ll roll on your backs again.'
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Co-existence
from Bergen (Norway) on 2002-04-11 17:56 [#00168008]
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Fuck it! Somebody teach me some html here, please! Well, this is the URL I wanted to submit:
http://www.forces.org/articles/henry/klein-en.htm
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-04-11 17:57 [#00168011]
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the system is set up to make us feel that we can, but turely we can't. it's a lot like amway, or any other MLM...the ppl on the top get the most, while the ppl directly under them make crap and workd their asses off, and the ppl at the bottom get raped.
speaking metaphoricaly, i've been a constant "stand" in the social gears all my life...and have realized that unless your "buddy buddy" with the boss, your fucked.
on a more serious matter, anything that's in our political sys that amounted to anything has always been a double edged blade...either that or sold off to the corporations...
if ppl are interested:
www.disinfo.com www.pickover.com
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Quernstone
from Padova (Italy) on 2002-04-11 18:02 [#00168017]
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co existence try this http://www.forces.org/articles/henry/klein-en.htm
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2002-04-11 18:02 [#00168018]
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page not found :0(
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Quernstone
from Padova (Italy) on 2002-04-11 18:03 [#00168019]
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co existence try this http://www.forces.org/articles/henry/klein-en.htm
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-04-11 18:03 [#00168020]
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i'm not to political, and some of the aspects of the begining of that article are pretaining to other countries aid towards us in wars that i was to young to be involved in (no, not vietnam...the gulf war), but the piece about russia is very true. Once 9/11 hit, everyone came first thing to aid thinking that they could get on our good graces for the counter-attack, but we knew that IF we countered, it wouldn't be until a LONG time from now, and we decided to take advantage...
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2002-04-11 18:04 [#00168023]
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Quernstone---try again :0(
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Quernstone
from Padova (Italy) on 2002-04-11 18:04 [#00168024]
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co existence try this http://www.forces.org/articles/henry/klein-en.htm
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Quernstone
from Padova (Italy) on 2002-04-11 18:06 [#00168026]
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OK with a little luck it was thishttp://www.forces.org/articles/hen-ry/klein-en.htm
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Quernstone
from Padova (Italy) on 2002-04-11 18:07 [#00168028]
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here
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2002-04-11 18:09 [#00168032]
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its a mirricle.......but im not gonna read it :0)
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Co-existence
from Bergen (Norway) on 2002-04-11 18:09 [#00168033]
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ta very much, Quernstone! : )
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Co-existence
from Bergen (Norway) on 2002-04-11 18:15 [#00168046]
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PRIMAL SCREAM’s eagerly-anticipated new album looks set to be banned in the States – for featuring their controversial song ‘BOMB THE PENTAGON’, NME.COM can reveal.
read all about it:
http://www.nme.com/news/101350.htm
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Quernstone
from Padova (Italy) on 2002-04-11 18:17 [#00168056]
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href="http://www.yoursite.com">http://www.yoursite.com&l No probs. To make something a link you have to add <a t;/a>
Where yoursite is the sites address.
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Tasos
from Athens (Greece) on 2002-04-11 18:18 [#00168059]
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...this was useful! thanks! :-)
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aneurySm
from Ypsilanti (United States) on 2002-04-11 18:21 [#00168069]
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"there is no future. it doesn;t exist. there;s no such thing, asshole. take some mushrooms and squeegy your third fucking eye" -Bill Hicks
our current state of affairs is rather appaulingly what ever happenned to the newz on Enron?
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Quernstone
from Padova (Italy) on 2002-04-11 18:21 [#00168071]
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I give up! It is time to go home. I'm knackered. BAsically if you want to make something a link it is really simple.
check here to see how.
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-04-11 23:28 [#00168613]
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Totally agree Nano. This is seen in the education system and any level of authority, be it police or popular parenting. We are tought to praise education as if you can't learn anything from experience, but the education system is not designed to free our thinking of limi tations, but to dircect it down the "right path". Most of my instructors at the uni are obsessed with authority and you better not challange what you are being tought cause these are some defensive motha fuckers. Don't even get me started with the polics (in general; I have met some good ones). There is no reason among the enforcers of law. Think not, just do as you should according to the man! It's so sad.
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