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wow, that's all it takes to get a girl's number? |
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yeah, but keep in mind he risked being stoned to death... |
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That is a nice story. :-) |
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casual atheist meetup? sounds a lot like any other religion to me. only in america. was nice that you got a girls phone number tho, what are you gonna do about it? |
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wait wait. you went to a "casual atheist meetup". a girl said "you are and agnostic so lets meet up and talk about it". is this information correct ? |
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yes please confirm this information. |
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when are you gonna make the call? |
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dagibit is just monoid jr. |
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i've heard that coming out as an atheist is social suicide in the usa. even worse than coming out as a gay, lesbian or transsexual. ... is that true? or was that european anti-american propaganda? |
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im convinced, this is religion! you haven't moved one bit away from christianity of you seek out the atheist brotherhood dagibit - ffs, thats the whole point of it! independent thought. |
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Come out and live with a atheist community in a beautiful place out in the country.. |
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besides could you please elaborate on the bass situation. was there any and if yes, was thansk given ? |
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Went better than expected.jpg |
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That was years ago. Don't be stale always sadist. |
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I would classify atheism as a religion. It is a belief that no gods exist. They attempt to present it as the default natural conclusion based on what can be proven, but that it like saying that the deepest sea creatures didn't exist until we were able to get down there and verify them. Agnosticism is the only honest, objective position if you are going to base it solely on what we have proven or not proven so far. |
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Most people know what you are trying to express. Try being concise |
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Atheism is not a religion. |
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i'm so 2006. the whole situation in this topic is just honestly disturbing/wierd for me. no offense though. it's just that i simply cannot imagine attending a "casual atheist meetup". because i just simply cannot see what people that don't believe in any good have to talk about. so i'm getting this picture of a few people sipping their pints clapping each others shoulder and saying "you cool bro". the second thing is with the girl. the whole situation. "are you an atheist ?" - this is where my alarm goes off. why the fuck should she care if i'm an atheist. what will the answer change. and also "i will give you my number" WTF ? if you said you believed in the flying spaghetti monster would she still want to talk about it ? if i meet someone new and the first topic is religion i'm getting hostile as the only people i met doing so (until now) were jehova's witnesses or some sort of any other sect. the thing is i'm getting extremely butthurt in conversations about religion. as far as any other topic politics included might have any positive output religion is something so personal and subjective that there is simply no point in discussing it. also saying things like "atheism's better arguments" is for me some form of ignorance lowering the importance of religion to the level of a choosing a car. |
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she's not calling back after you rang her twice? She must be a bitch from hell... |
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It's an odd concept for me, I must say. Let me just indulge in some minor word manipulation: Yesterday I went to the Philadelphia zoo and had a great time until closing at 5, then walked to the restaurant where I planned to have the "social adventure" of attending a casual christian meetup. It was really small and I didn't recognize anyone so I asked the cute cashier if she knew about the meetup. she said no and asked "you're a christian"? I said I was and then she said "so am I, can I give you my number so we can chat about it?" WOAH! Then I realized I was probably at the wrong restaurant and arrived at the correct one an hour late, where I then had an awesome time chatting about Jesus with cool friendly people for two hours. I couldn't have imagined the day could go this well! |
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@ Jivver: a single, medium-sized paragraph is actually pretty good for me. @ Dag. I'm not disappointed. When I was young I went to church with family, got older and got out of it. Was actively against it for a long time. Now I believe it. Maybe that will happen for you, maybe not. There is a facebook group I post at called Alfalfa Farmer's Association, which is a spin off of the American Family Association discussion board. Basically they are mostly liberal atheists who discuss/troll on Christian boards but made this place when they got banned/posts deleted. Check it out sometime if you want. |
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I thought it was as easy as looking nice to get a # |
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I disagree. I think it's sound to say 'it's so unlikely there's a God, I think there's no God at all'. (Also I believe there's some definitions that don't exclude the possibility of a God. But that say 'I don't believe in a God until I see him.') Where I think some atheists go wrong is to think atheism has something to do with theism, by being the opposite and seeing them as enimies. Luckily most atheists just don't believe in a God and aren't half militant. |
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I don't actually think it is a religion, but of course there are groups that are more anti-theist than just atheist, and are more about active lobbying against the religious right. I can't blame them always, the politics of the religious right can come off as ignorant and extreme, but then so do the politics of the extreme left. |
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It's true. Family Guy told me. |
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haha! You did a funny! :D Maybe I can pls be your friends now? x |
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I like Dagabit threads. They get everyone chatting in a nice way. Congs on getting a girl's number, man. :) So are you not gay any more? |
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I still believe in the greek gods, but finding a girl who also does is a task |
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I agree on your atheists views. But I'm skeptical about your agnosticism claim. But it's no biggie. |
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i've watched a few clips of "the atheist experience". they seem to be evidentialists. they always come back to the point: It's wrong to believe in gods, because we have no evidence for them. (granted, most of the people who call there present themselves as evidentialists, too.) however: (1) more sophisticated concepts of god, don't base the idea of god on evidence. .. before the atheist experience deals with these better concepts of gods they're attacking a straw-man. (2) evidentialism is a theory which seems to be incoherent. it's incoherent, because there is no clear evidence for the view that you should only believe that what you have evidence for. [and it depends on how you define evidence.] blahblahblah. |
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You don't need to have evidence to believe in something. If you want to debate that thing in a logical way, you need some evidence. People are free to believe in whatever nonsense they want, however if they want to convince someone who doesn't believe in it that it makes sense, they are going to need better arguments than are available. There is no way to win or lose a debate about something that can't be quantified in any way. Evangelists seem to think that the fact that people can't argue their claims means that their claims aren't correct. |
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There's a pretty good episode where they debate Matt Slick on TAG. I'd like to see Matt Dillahunty debate Plantinga on the EAAN. (I like Plantinga a lot - he seems like a genuinely nice guy and his arguments are challenging) |
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