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I finally got this. It seem so overwhelming (but better) than acid. So many things I don't were to start. Any body got any good pointers or tips? |
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make your patterns vary, and non-repetative... add in the occasional "oddly place sound" to mix things up... record knob tweeks in patterns... |
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and play with vst fx plug-ins...i just wish FLoops had more sloots. |
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You mean sixteen channels with eight effect slots each and four send channels is not enuf for you? You can always mix down in another program. |
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Yeah, remember to keep track of all the channels you program events in. If you loose track of one it can take hours to figure out were you went wrong. |
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Speaking of mixing down in another program, what's a basic mixer you could recomend? I just need to lay together wav files rcorded with other software and paning and volume controls. No fx needed. |
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nope, not enough... fx are more fun to fuck with than actually programming and synthesizing the sounds themselves... i use fx on the sounds before i load them into FL, and them poor more on...and then even add more when i sequence... and a lot of times i can NEVER have enough bass, and distortion...the sound has to be just right... |
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Well, I'm not opposed to fx in any way, but I make my music with a synth with enough fx to satisfy me but it's sequencer is quite limited. I don't mind fx, I just don't want a whoppin piece of software like cubase. Something to take a little less hard drive space and something a little simpler. |
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I'm lovin the sound of Floops. This is gonna take a minute to learn, but It could use some more plugins...Plus I'm happy cause I just got BOTH ventolin cds... |
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I use cool edit pro for mixing down. |
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I have cool edit 2000, is it much different from that? I don't have any visual way of sequencing tracks with it. |
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get sonic foundry's acid, jupitah |
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Acid Pro is great for mixing down. The best I've used for it at least...Any of the Acid progs are good for mixing down. Which one you use would be based on what level of mixing you want to do... |
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Cool edit 2000 is the small version of cool edit pro. CEPro has an Multitrack mixing pannel. I use version 1.2a, cause it is dope. |
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thnx, will be checking that out. i need to check out Fruity Loops too at some point, though that's more just a sampler aint it? |
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I find acid to be much too unstable for my tastes. |
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Time to get out Morpheus... |
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I'll dabble in a few when I get the time. Is Cool Edit Pro very big? I don't remember what Cubase was, but I know it was quite enormous. |
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Cool edit is big enough it suck dling it with a modem. Fruity loops is 17megs. With a modem on morphues that takes eternity...Course Acid is 30megs... |
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acid can use envelope technology with vst plugin fx to simulate know movement. let's say i want to make a certain kick line grow in base...well i just incert the right vst fx, and add a slowly growing envelope, and span the length of the growth from point a to point b. |
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i mean knob movement |
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FL is much much much more than just a sampler....it comes w/ a couple of softsynths and is easily compatible w/ vst synths and other plugins and such, so theoretically you could run it w/ no samples at all. Basically, once you get used to it and learn some of th in-depth features, it's a startlingly nice program. As for Cool Edit, it's not that big of a monster. Basically just for editing .wav file with a simple multitracker thrown in. Simple, but excellent. |
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Since when is Acid VST compatible? |
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The envelope technology you speak of, that's the only thing I'm missing from the software I'm using right now. Would be very nice. |
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Acid is not vst compatible. It is DX compatible, and you need a VSTtoDx plug in thing running at the sametime, which devours processor. I can use Dx plugs in Cool Edit 1.2a too. As well as cool edit plugins. CEP2.0 will have vst compatibility I am sure. |
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On a wholey related note, Fruity Loops 4.0 is going to come as the ability to use AS a VST plug in as well as with VST plugins. |
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not vst...i meant direct x... and envelope technology is not that fancy...a simple panning of a track is just a volume envelope closing on the side your panning away from. what's special is that acid utilizes this greatly. |
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what sort of PC have you got nanotech? theres no way i could possibly run 16x8 fx in fruity. my pc would completely crap it. i have: dual pentium 500mhz 512 mg ram 7200rpm 40g HD |
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god i love floops..(shudder) |
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You need to get yourself better drum samples ! |
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yeah i use fruityloops combined with cool edit too - i prefer programming to fucking about with fX - apart from reverb for some atmosphere. but i studied the piano, so i guess i am more interested in that side of composition. i am also addicted to making percussion tracks ;) if you download lots of soundfonts, then fruityloops is knockout - i hardly ever use the pre-set samples - if only the soundfont editor wasn't a fucking demo, it would be great! bTW, use the piano roll, and make your patterns longer to make it easier to have a diverse rhythm - instead of just copying and pasting. |
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orion pro is good. although im experiencing some problems with it sending program change messages to my gear. the thing i like about it is the song lay out is better than fruityloops. the pattern bars show as different lengths on the layout screen unlike fruityloops they are all the same little blocks. and you can drop audio tracks in and visually see the wav data which is kinda neet. |
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orion pro crashed my computer EVERY time i tried to do anything |
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where can i pick up some those sound fonts? |
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there was a soundfont site..had blessed something in the title (MSN search for soundfonts will display it), but it isn't there any more! like i said, i will try and upload them, but you will have to wait til monday - some of them are fucking wicked! the orchestra one is magic, i have a GREAT mandolin one which has BPM-matching tremolo on one of the patches, some GREAT percussion soundfonts, organs (great) synths (very great), good guitar fonts...fuckin heaps - maybe i will post a list and you can choose the ones you want uploaded ;) |
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I didn't say the envelope technology is fancy, just that I wish I had that ability with the synth I use. There are points in composition when I'd like to tweak a knob this way or that, which I can do manually, but only one at a time of course. Maybe I need multiple mice! |
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Does most everybody use samples for their drums? I pretty much make my sounds from scratch, but it's hard to get some good percussion sounds that route. |
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no idea jupitah - i use various kits of percussion |
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I pee on fruitypoops. i never loved this soft. i never did something really interesting weezit even if it's easy to use. i used fastracker2 for a while and i found it 10 time more interesting than "F-Poop" I think acid is more easy and fun to use that "poopmusic. there's no soft i can make music on like this one. |
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I love Fruity Loops--there really are no limitations as to what one can do with it; only how-easily it can be done. The sounds they give you are all really lame, though. I love the soft synth though--great stuff if you know what you're doing! |
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I just use MagixMusicMakerG6-Delux. For Recording things only (+mixing) |
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bah humbug |
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humbug? what's that? |
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"bah humbug" is what scrooge says! it's like grumbling, but in a light-hearted way |
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hu. |
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hey what's the deal with that madonna rmx you were talking about the other day? |
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one of our e-friend remotely installed a mb system on our Linux server,. so friends worldwide can easily contact us or post to each other. the mb system is engineered by Vbulletin. I though i can upload mp3z on it (normally possible). but didn't work. |
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mashed potatoes! |
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Me, Marlowe? I did a remix of Evita when I was 14--it was my first song on Fruity Loops. I called it vel-evita (the cheesiest mix) Named after Velveeta, the popular cheese, for those who may not know it. |
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marlowe, we can do it "Warrior style". I send yu the 2 remixes by pieces of 500k ace packed. |
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