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Amonbrune
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-04-10 16:39 [#00165929]
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Someone mentioned that Rich used a dulciner or something? What I've always thought was that he recorded himself playing the piano from the INSIDE of the piano and like digitally redid the sounds of it. What's a dulciner?
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Martytan
from somewhere in upstate new york (United States) on 2002-04-10 16:40 [#00165933]
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a dulcimer is an instrument played with small hammers I think....
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Amonbrune
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-04-10 16:49 [#00165957]
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Thats cool. Ive never seen one before. Does anyone know anything about Dulcimer's?
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aneurySm
from Ypsilanti (United States) on 2002-04-10 17:11 [#00165994]
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ever heard of a zither? itz like this trapezoid shaped thing with lots of strings going accross it
and you hold these 'hammers' which are like chop sticks except bigger and the 'head' of them are fatter and they weigh more
and you smack the strings to resonate tone
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Co-existence
from Bergen (Norway) on 2002-04-10 17:22 [#00166001]
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Rich should have a go at the Trautonium!
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xlr
from Boston (United States) on 2002-04-10 17:28 [#00166006]
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"prepared piano" is the general consensus. A piano w/ various things attached to the strings to make it sound different.
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Zen Storm
from St. Charles (United States) on 2002-04-10 20:14 [#00166178]
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hmmm that's pretty cool XLR, do you know what kind of objects are generally attached?
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Amonbrune
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-04-10 20:34 [#00166227]
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yeah that instrument sounds really sweet. you could make a huge avant garde piece with something like that. really slow and really really off kilter with lots of echo. Im drooling!!
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2002-04-10 20:38 [#00166236]
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A dulcimer is kinda like a zither, but slightly different. I've seen them played a lot--sometimes they're played by two people.
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Amonbrune
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-04-10 20:40 [#00166238]
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I wanna learn them both!! :)
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Amonbrune
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-04-10 20:41 [#00166239]
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If what I hear off Drukqs is correct (the sound of piano and that cymbal type sound), then that thing is the perfect harmony of both melody and noise. Sweeet.
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xlr
from Boston (United States) on 2002-04-10 21:16 [#00166325]
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It's a very nice sound indeed. When I first heard it, I thought it was some sort of japanese harp or something. It's very unique.
Zen Storm, i'm not actually sure what he puts on the strings, but you might want to do a search on prepared piano. Someone else on the board can probably answer your question.
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Amonbrune
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-04-10 21:21 [#00166330]
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*puts his hand in xlr's socket pic and gets zapped* hehehehehehe
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xlr
from Boston (United States) on 2002-04-10 21:22 [#00166333]
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hehe
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Omneignotumus
on 2002-04-10 22:00 [#00166370]
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The most common prepared piano items are nails and foam and pieces of wood, but its something that you experiment with. John Cage has catalogued all sorts of pieces and preparations
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texanhobo
from new york (United States) on 2002-04-10 22:15 [#00166383]
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sounds like a yamaha MPC2 midi grand piano to me
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john is fast
from sacramento (United States) on 2002-04-11 03:17 [#00167087]
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a prepared piano can be arranged with any kind of item to change the sound. running nuts and bolts along the string, nails, wrapping wire around the string, fishing weights, tying two strings together. its up to you really. no one could ever perfectly imitate the sound you get unless they knew exactly what items you used where.
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john is fast
from sacramento (United States) on 2002-04-11 03:18 [#00167088]
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i was even told someone once tried throwing nuts and bols onto the strings and letting them lay loosely so that they would bounce around while you played. i would like to hear that.
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Amonbrune
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-04-11 03:19 [#00167089]
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So in essence you could take a piano and totally screw with the strings? That's all you need to do? Hot dog that sounds fun!!
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Amonbrune
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-04-11 03:21 [#00167092]
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Im going to re-learn piano quite soon and I can't wait! I quit when I was like 5 or 6. I hope to have everything come back and go "Ohh yeah...that" a few times. Should be fun. Then I can get this prepared piano thing down and make myself some ambient tunes.
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Cfern
from Sacto (United States) on 2002-04-11 04:10 [#00167123]
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ya to set the record straight its a prepared midi piano. like a player piano but programed digitaly. then James put various shit between the strings like combs, paper clips and pieces of paper. He said in an interview that he played it unprepared for a full year then started messing with the insides
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-04-11 04:36 [#00167146]
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the piano stuff is prolly my fav aspect of the whole album
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Xanatos
from New York City (United States) on 2002-04-11 04:43 [#00167152]
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I think the piano stuff on DrukQs is poor, I'm really into the insane drillish melodied bits on drukqs.
My brother is a classical pianist so maybe I am a bit spoiled by good piano music 24/7, my brother (as well as many other people lacking the genius of Richard D. James) could write most of those tunes and play them better.
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Amonbrune
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-04-11 04:56 [#00167164]
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I like the piano on Drukqs a whole lot. The thing is I don't like hearing super fast orchestrated piano peices. Im into the awkward 'avant garde' (if you don't mind me using that term lol) stuff...apparently like this John Cage guy. The whole song is one note. I LOVE that sort of thing. Get away from being proper.
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