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Hi guys, just wondering if anyone has any experience with DSLR cameras. Specifically I'm trying to decide between the Canon and the Nikon as my budget is pretty tight I'm going to have to buy it used, probably from ebay. The Cannon has a higher resolution and a few more fancy features, but the Nikon has a better quality lens / optics which I feel is more important. My friend suggest me to go with this Canon SX130is Digital Camera on black friday . http://tinyurl.com/2vapocr I don't know about it for sure. What ya think? Any other advice from any photographers out there? |
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are you real or are you a bot. that's my question. and do you know what this forum is about? |
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Clark- hurry! TAKE THE MONEY AND RUN!!! |
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Leave him alone, he's 2010's best member. |
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If you were for real I would suggest something. But you are not real so you can go with the one is not as good as far as I am concerned. I actually feel a bit bad having wasted my time posting even this much. And that last sentence too. DOH! |
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the bodies will be pretty equivalent find out which specific lenses you need and then look at what both companies have to offer and the strengths (iq/price) for each. if you're shooting telephoto primarily, then i think that answers the body questions |
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are you saying Nikon and Canon sensors are the same? |
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bot or not, go with the canon, nikons are fucking toys. |
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maybe there are robots who can opperate cameras and even enquire advice on which to buy, but it makes me wonder why an advanced robot would need our help to compare specifications since he himself probably has all of this information stored in a positronic brain... But then why would a robot need to take pictures unless it had a specific purpose or program which required it to carry out such a task?, if it was recriational or artistic then we are talking about an extremely sophisticated robot |
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tractern, yes. for the greater part unless the user has extreme design requirements...the bodies can be considered about even. small pros/cons upon each (within the same tier/price level) --- but what it really comes down to is glass. DR, AF speed, ISO performance et al is pretty damn 'good enough' across canon and nikon current platforms. what the OP needs to ask himself is what are his design requirements -- what will he/she be shooting, and then work from there ... except in extreme cases where the slightest bit of higher AF performance may mean the difference, then body is the trump... but for most part, find out what glass you would like to purchase, and then base your body decision on that. |
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larn, can you cite which dictionary to reference the definition of 'robot' you are using in the case of your post? |
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http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/guides/2010/11/holiday-camer a-shopping-picking-the-perfect-point-and-shoot.ars |
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mystery clark. are you a bot or not? i'm voting for cs student doing a project on chatbots who likes to use his random accounts for some other stuff as well. or worse, a marketing student. |
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If you enjoy advertisements grab a copy of this months popular photography which features a long review of the Olympus E-5. In addition I spoke with a pushy salesman at national camera exchange and video today and he recommended a D90 body and a Tamron 10-24 lens. |
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Are you the person who I had a discussion with about image 'noise' and stuff- remember, when I started that thread about photography? If so, what is the deal? Did you once become pro-photographer and it didn't work out, so now you are bitter about it, or what? |
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I would recommend Nikon D80 body with the kit lens that comes with it. Canon DSLR=poo. Sensors are bad and the kit lenses are shit. They are overpriced, too. If you like superficial features to play with, get Canon. If you want to take it more seriously, buy a Nikon D80. This is a professional camera. Also slightly cheaper and much better than entry-level Nikon DSLRs. |
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D80/90 class don't sound like his budget. His SX130 is like 200 bucks. I don't think you can find even a D80 body for that little. Just googled for 5 seconds, and it looks like 400 US bucks for a used D80 case. |
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The title of this thread is 'help buying a digital SLR' That camera you mentioned is not a DSLR. You can't get a DSLR for the price of that run-of-the-mill Canon camera that you are for some reason focussing on. clark, if you are thinking about buying a camera for the long term and taking up photography as a hobby, buy the D80 body and maybe attach one of the newer kit lenses to it. Buying a DSLR is quite a commitment, as you are likely to buy more lenses later on, which costs a lot. From what you have said, you don't fall into this category and you just like the look and idea of having a DSLR, without being willing to make the time commitment which would justify paying such a price. If this is the case, just go with that Canon or any other ubiquitous point and shoot/ bridge camera. Bridge cameras can be good for beginners who want to learn about all the settings and stuff, cos they have a lot of manual setting changes. Auto too, for when you want to just concentrate on what you are shooting. Alternatively, you could start shooting film, which is a lot more fun and in some ways cheaper (at least in the short term). ;) It means the difference between getting an older, far better build quality and optical quality (and many can be used on DSLRs). Film = $70 nice 'standard 50mm lens', $200 for the digital equivalent, which would break if you drop it and will usually lower optical quality. |
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I don't think he wrote DSLR in the title knowingly, but mistakenly chose that P&S as object of his research and above inquiry. |
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minus a comma |
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what is SLR. i have a samsung camera (digital) |
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Google Digital single-lens reflex |
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still i dont know what it means |
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my camera has single lens though |
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tractern, no i still shoot i just dont share my photos because they're not meant to be advertisements of look-at-me capabilities. and it was only ever a hobby. hello, tractern. sensors and subsystems have made strides *in the past year alone*. so if you're in attempt to bring up an old conversation, context is fuking relevant. he's not buying pro here --- consumer or prosumer. "Canon DSLR=poo" can you elaborate? maybe with some vocabular from an EE vs a faboy? i shoot canon but i would never say nikon sensors are crap. they are pretty much on par with each other. DR and ISO performance have come so far it's not the deciding factor in the body anymore unless you're pro and you're specifically shooting a certain environment ==== e.g. you have specific design requirements that will trump other features for the one most important. for some people, that's AF speed/accuracy in servo. for others, it's all about the highest dynamic range possible or the absolute best ISO performance/noise. clark, again ... spend your money on glass. it will be far more rewarding. the only thing kit lenses are good for is so people can essentially "try before you commit" ...e..g you're not spending too much on glass then realizing you dont know what you're doing and arent as interested as you once were. the bulk of the consumer/prosumer bodies are pretty close in overall performance. a few leap-frogs here/there but with specs changing so fucking often it's nothing to get hung up about. you always start with design requirements. no one asked him what he wants to shoot. you cant decide glass until you know what you want to shoot (and price range) ... you cant decide body until you know glass. tractern, the fanboy stench grows on you like wild moss. what's the price range, clark-bot? |
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lol at deciding body before glass/lenses. talk about horse-before-the-cart. |
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elusive, I like the fact that you can smell me ("fanboy stink") through a computer screen. :) I can see that you know more about DSLRs that me. I have a Konica Minolta Dimage Z2, which I don't use for creative purposes. I shoot film, because there is no soulful aesthetic in digital photography, at least without editing, which is artificial and therefore almost always gives soulless results anyway. Please don't be jealous and 'flame' me just cos I still have passion for something you no longer see as being very important or creative to you any more, as you are (I assume, from the way you speak) old. If you aren't old, then you come across as a passion-less, cantankerous old man. I don't understand what you mean in saying I am a 'fanboy'. I have an opinion and know what I like is all. I accept that this can cloud my judgement when trying to give advice which should be objective as possible. In the context of this thread I guess your advice could be more useful, although I don't know if saying 'they're all the same' is really that helpful... I wonder if this is a genuine thread and clark actually wants to buy a camera... |
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Actually, I'm not really a Nikon fanboy in general. Only for digital. I have a Canon RM with 50mm 1.8 FL lens, which I really enjoy using. Barely any noise, even when wide open on a sunny day (lens was accidentally on 'auto'). Great bokeh too. Used to have a Nikon FM, but I had to sell it. So with film I like both, but I dislike Canon for DSLR. |
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Certain bodies fit certain lenses, so this is sensible. |
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"elusive, I like the fact that you can smell me ("fanboy stink") through a computer screen. :) " you said canon sens0rs = poo. yes - you stink. it has nothing to do about knowing more, as you proclaim - because i dont keep up on that stuff as to want to put myself into the position of being one that knows. it has to do with your commentary. |
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"Please don't be jealous and 'flame' me just cos I still have passion for something you no longer see as being very important or creative to you any more" lol wat. are you listening to yourself? how are you drawing these conclusions? fuck, man. get a grip. how on earth did i flame you in regards/context to your self proclaimed "passion". re-read my posts. in no way did i make a distinctive vector in any fuking quadrant adjacenct to your fuking "ability" to take photos. stop getting personal when im attacking your commentary and approach to designing a solution for the OP. i take pictures when i feel like it. i have a camera and i use it sparingly. i 1) have some kind of disorder where i can never fully settle on a final post-processing solution... so i generally take many photos, then let them sit for a year or two before i get really drunk one night and start going through the archives. it's then that i usually dish out a few final edits and can finally say "here is a photo i took" ... you are like little girl who seems to siphon straw man arguments and try and handshake some kind of draw on attack from my sentences that in no way had any original approach to your situation or how you function regarding the topic. |
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"Actually, I'm not really a Nikon fanboy in general. Only for digital. I have a Canon RM with 50mm 1.8 FL lens" that's the photography equivalent of "i'm not racist!!! i have black friends!" |
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elusive I can see you have some good input for this discussion, but i should point out that the OP is nothing more than a advertising bot or even worse a person posing as an advertising bot, who shows up here once in a while and asks us advice on which dress or boots he/she should buy. it just so happens that this time he/she decided to post a more believable question. so i would not bother giving more advice unless of course it helps anyone else interested. check the last 25 posts you will see what i mean |
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"check the last 25 posts you will see what i mean " check my references to 'clark' in the last 25 posts |
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um... I took a photo once. It had a picture in it! Da bomb. |
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elusive you're such a forum poster |
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