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Cabbog
from Chautauqua (United States) on 2002-04-10 08:31 [#00165211]
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Does anyone else think that the first part of Drukqs is some of Aphex Twin's finest work ever? I think it's probably my favorite disc of music released by Richard James so far. I really like that old toy dulcimer(pictured on the cover?)that he tinkers with in 'Jynweythek Ylow' etc. and the romantic piano arrangements... The whole thing's amazing.
The second cd is another story entirely though. To me it sounds like a bunch of cluttered outtakes and old scrapped material.. Someone told me that this had something to do with Richard fufilling a contract with Warp so that he could leave. Does anyone know anything about that?
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-10 08:40 [#00165226]
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I think there's been like 50 threads on this before. Anyway, I also think that Drukqs is rich with filler and that it has some stunning music, but IMO it's not divided that way (1st disc cool and 2nd disc sucks). In fact, second disc has some fantastic tracks (taking control, for instance). But I'm known for disrespecting Drukqs, so let's hope someone else answers your questions.
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Duble0Syx
from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2002-04-10 08:41 [#00165228]
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I know the part about the contract is pretty reasonable. And I think Drukqs has a pretty high rank on my list Good AFX. Especially the first disc...
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map
from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-04-10 09:08 [#00165271]
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Rich was to much in software, he was arsed bei too many plugs and progs
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Duble0Syx
from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2002-04-10 09:11 [#00165278]
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Drukqs is great but I still like Classics and his Caustic Window stuff more or equally...
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Fernz
from A Scottish Wanker (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-10 09:15 [#00165285]
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I think it was an ok album, especially tracks like Vordhosbn and Cock/Ver10. Dunno bout the fillers though. I guess if the whole album was fast shit then it would be even more difficult to listen to.
Geogaddi was Warp's best release since then IMO.
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from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-04-10 09:42 [#00165321]
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the afx commercial boom comes with DrukQs, but it's to late.. sadly.
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Bob Mcbob
on 2002-04-10 10:57 [#00165394]
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they should have cut out half the tracks and made 1 great cd instead of 2 ok ones...but then again, if that was released instead and i heard rich left 15 tracks out, i would be upset even if they were crap!
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-10 10:59 [#00165395]
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i think i can sympathise with that. but would have loved if he did t that way. just to torment hisfans
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-04-10 11:01 [#00165396]
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i agree with you meho...
i think there's a sad total of 10 tracks i like off of it...(both cd's) and i think that the second disc isn't as good as the first...i think that practically all double cd's are this way...
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Bob Mcbob
on 2002-04-10 11:02 [#00165397]
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yep except for double compilations of cource.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-10 11:02 [#00165398]
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uhm, maybe except albert aylers live at village vanguard
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-04-10 11:06 [#00165401]
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here's another thought...when nin's the fragile was produced it was a major failur because Trent Reznor wanted to retire with his "closure" vhs, and waited about 4 yrs b4 realising a full length...and it turned out to be a double, that comercially bombed...i LOVE it persoanlly, but if you look at the facts, a over priced 2 cd that doesn't have enough chart toppers, won;t do very well...
let's just hope rdj does do the whole scheem nin did with the live dvd/cd/*special double live cd* releases....i whent to my local cd store and saw that the double live was $29.99 american...ouch for trent...AND he spent WAY to long on this project...one shouldn;t release a live set like he did so long after the tour was over.
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-10 11:07 [#00165402]
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This board is SCHIZO...
One minute it's moaning about how Lazy rdj is and he should release more stuff..
The next it's moaning about there being too many tracks on Drukqs...
And you wonder why rich doesn't come here often...
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-10 11:09 [#00165403]
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Yes!
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-10 11:09 [#00165404]
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we're kinda schizo, allright, but he's partially to blame for this.
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-10 11:14 [#00165407]
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It's true...Aphex is schizo music...
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-10 11:17 [#00165409]
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but, still, judging from drukqs, I could do without hearing every digital fart he's ever made. Tho, I don't mind if other people do want 'em.
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Bob Mcbob
on 2002-04-10 11:19 [#00165415]
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its nice he decided to reinvent himself in a pianoy guise..but most of those piano pieces suck!
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-10 11:21 [#00165418]
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yes, some of them are just sketches
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E-man
from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2002-04-10 12:00 [#00165460]
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do not say they suck... plz they aren't of your liking, they are simple & short but they are intended to be like that, also listen properly to some of the tracks and you'll hear he plays a lot with the reverb and panning effects and some of these effects are breathtaking imo
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Bob Mcbob
on 2002-04-10 12:02 [#00165463]
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im not saying there put together badly, im just saying most of them are more boring than actual real classical :P
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E-man
from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2002-04-10 12:03 [#00165466]
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once again they aren't intended to sound classical music you know...
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-04-10 12:03 [#00165467]
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E-man: breathtaking to some, boring as hell, and not impressive to others
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Bob Mcbob
on 2002-04-10 12:04 [#00165468]
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wel duh....although i did find the william tell overture rather nice :)
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E-man
from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2002-04-10 12:08 [#00165473]
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o course
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Cabbog
from Chautauqua (United States) on 2002-04-10 22:56 [#00166461]
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Sorry, I wasn't aware of how often this had been discussed in the past. As you can see, I'm a meager 53 pointed little lettuce and haven't been around long.
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-04-10 23:08 [#00166475]
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Disc one is also my favourite!! The piano pieces which i know some don't appreciate are AMAZING to me.
i dunno if i agree with putting all the best stuff on one disc or not, because for me the more aphex the better. so what if it's not the BEST, i'd rather have mediocre stuff from richard than a whole pile of 'good stuff' from some less interesting artists.
MUSIC IS SUBJECTIVE!!!
i feel like i'm privy to some of his experiments on some of the tracks....thats cool to me =0)
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zzligg
from Allen,TX (United States) on 2002-04-10 23:09 [#00166477]
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Anything rdj puts out is worth liking in some form or another. That's just my opinion. Instead of me griping about how many tracks there are and how some of them suck, i look at it like the c.d. as an experience meant to be the way it is. I think Drukqs is one of the most ingenious pieces of music and should be experienced "as is" for how rdj wanted us to hear it. Just my opinion though, dosn't really mean too much:)
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corn_mouth
from santiago (Chile) on 2002-04-10 23:20 [#00166504]
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ziske one is great, but ziske two has ziggomatic, let´s not forget that everyone...
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corngrower
from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2002-04-11 00:06 [#00166647]
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disc 2 has 54 cymru beats, metaphace 6, and my personal favorite, ziggomatic v17, so I disagree with you
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corn_mouth
from santiago (Chile) on 2002-04-11 00:43 [#00166808]
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hey fellow corn man, my favourite one´s also ziggomatic v17.........must be the corn_genes
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corngrower
from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2002-04-11 00:45 [#00166814]
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It is fucking amazing, init?
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corn_mouth
from santiago (Chile) on 2002-04-11 00:56 [#00166849]
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specially that part when it totally flips it over, and twists up the whole idea you had in your mind about it.......makes me wanna go fuck yeah!!!
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corn_mouth
from santiago (Chile) on 2002-04-11 00:58 [#00166852]
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hmmmm that last sentence doesn´t sound very nice does it?....hmmm
i meant, it makes me wanna go yeah (or something....)
*feels akward...*
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corngrower
from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2002-04-11 00:59 [#00166855]
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I love the end where the sounds disengage and that mellody floats in... such a great way to end it
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corn_mouth
from santiago (Chile) on 2002-04-11 01:02 [#00166868]
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...such an awesome track...
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xlr
from Boston (United States) on 2002-04-11 01:03 [#00166873]
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Both discs are pretty equal i think. I couldn't just have one without the other. I love the album but I don't think it's his best work ever.
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